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Richard III's remains discovered

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Awesome find!

A bit sad though....you're a king, die in a heroic battle and end up under a car park.
 
This is awesome. I live just outside of Leicester and heard people talking about the dig for the body a few times over Christmas. Really interesting and a great piece of history :) We used to visit Bosworth Battlefield all the time when we were kids.
 
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So who's DNA did they use? His descendants are no longer Royal correct? bloodline changed and all that...
 
I work in the building where the remains were found. We were told to expect a media circus this morning, but it was just one dude with a camera lol.
 
They should bury him again. Leave the dead in peace.

lol

What do you think they're going to do? Have his bones put on wires and have him dangled from the roof of nearby shopping centre?

Maybe they could dress him in armour and put a sword in his hand. Perhaps place some flashing lights in his eye sockets. :p
 
lWhat do you think they're going to do? Have his bones put on wires and have him dangled from the roof of nearby shopping centre?

Maybe they could dress it in armour and put a sword in his hand. Perhaps place some flashing lights in his eye sockets. :p


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Would be pretty funny...
 
Couldn't they be from a brother? Nephew? Distant cousin?

There can't be that much of a DNA match with current royalty given the generations and generations of mingling with other DNA hosts in the first place. Let alone enough to determine a direct line to King Richard III.
 
Some brilliant stuff from the good old Beeb with all the stuff we want to know:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21282241

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Richard III was portrayed by Shakespeare as having a hunched back and the skeleton has a striking curvature to its spine. This was caused by scoliosis, a condition which experts say in this case developed in adolescence. Rather than giving him a stoop, it would have made one shoulder higher than the other. Highlighted are the facing sides of the 10th and 11th thoracic vertebrae, showing uneven growth as the spine bent.

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Evidence of a number of wounds were found on the skeleton but the face area was largely unmarked, apart from a sliced cheekbone. The skull has undergone a CT scan and the results will be used to reconstruct the king's appearance. No portraits made during his lifetime have survived and some later copies show signs of having been altered to make him appear more sinister.

His violent end:
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The back of the skull shows dramatic injuries. One consists of a hole near the spine, where a large piece of bone has been sliced away by a heavy bladed weapon such as a halberd. This, along with a smaller wound opposite, may well have been a fatal injury. A smaller dent which cracked the inside of the skull, is thought to have been caused by a dagger. There are a further five wounds on the skull, all believed to have been inflicted around the time of death.

The DNA Analysis:
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The teeth of the skeleton have provided important information. As well as evidence of disease and tooth decay, calcified plaque can be analysed for evidence of diet and environment. He had lost several of his back teeth before he died, probably due to dental caries. DNA samples were extracted from the teeth and the right femur to compare with known descendants of Richard's family. Despite the potential for DNA to degrade, a match was found.

Also an audio conversation with the osteo-archaeologist Dr Jo Appleby who was at the finding of the body.
 
Couldn't they be from a brother? Nephew? Distant cousin?

There can't be that much of a DNA match with current royalty given the generations and generations of mingling with other DNA hosts in the first place. Let alone enough to determine a direct line to King Richard III.

Richard III is not related to the current monarchy.
 
Couldn't they be from a brother? Nephew? Distant cousin?

There can't be that much of a DNA match with current royalty given the generations and generations of mingling with other DNA hosts in the first place. Let alone enough to determine a direct line to King Richard III.

They suspected he was Richard III from different pieces of information. This is why they did a DNA test. It is now confirmed to be his body and that they were right in identifying that as his possible burial site.
 
They suspected he was Richard III from different pieces of information. This is why they did a DNA test. It is now confirmed to be his body and that they were right in identifying that as his possible burial site.

I saw, that at least makes sense. I just read the OP news message, hence the confusion :)
 
Couldn't they be from a brother? Nephew? Distant cousin?

There can't be that much of a DNA match with current royalty given the generations and generations of mingling with other DNA hosts in the first place. Let alone enough to determine a direct line to King Richard III.

Richard III was the last of his line (hence the grisely end) He was succeeded by the Tudors, the Stuarts, Hanover, and now the Windsors.
 
Christ, that's impressive that we can trace back that far.
Royal lineages are particularly well documented because they need to know lines of succession and such. If you can trace yourself to royalty you can pretty much go as far back as records go.

I remember someone on Who Do You Think You Are where they got someone's lineage back to royalty and from there could go all the way back to 1066 immediately.
 
Now I wish they would just allow the excavation in Westminster Abbey to see if those two child skeletons belong to the Princes in the Tower.
 
Friend of mine worked on the dig, hope he is featured prominently in the docu!

edit: yeh he's in the trailer, as well as a couple of other people i know. always funny when people you know are on tv.
 
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