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Rihanna is on Michael Jackson's level
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Who knew shade could be timeless?
Mau ®;93355576 said:
Yes the thread title is a little misleading but it's true that Rihanna has been a part of 13 number one singles tying Michael Jackson. A lot of the arguments I see here against Rihanna were used against Mariah Carey in that the songs were not memorable since the hits were put out in such a short time one after the next. This goes to her work ethic though and her passion for her job and is a huge feat. It is almost a science in itself to make music that is broad and popular enough with many different segments of the music buying population yet personal enough that you instantly know it's Rihanna or Mariah singing the song. Michael Jackson had that focus and attribute as well. She is so young still there is more than enough time to create "iconic" moments that some of you are trying to bitterly cling to.
So with that, stay and slay a little Rihanna.
Bel Marduk
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Commercial success is not equal to artistic merit.
Booty Patrol
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Artistic merit is subjective.
She is, but major labels only have a few staple stars that they back with all of their promotional might. They don't want to take risks. So while Rihanna is a household name, her having as many hits as MJ and The Beatles isn't as impressive as when they did it.
It describes Gags and her broken hip and abysmal live singing if she has to walk at the same time.
Is this real? LMAO.
Did Paula Abdul really have 4 #1 hits from a single album? It's always funny looking back and seeing all the women who were supposed to be the next Madonna.
Soulscribe
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#VNAY, the reach
massivekettle
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Single charts in the USA (at least) are more determined by radio spins than actual sales, which is why US charts are more biased towards pop as opposed to rock/hip hop (Eminem has more No. 1s in the UK than in the US.
TheXfactor
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She can't sing live at all, she doesn't make instrumentals, she doesn't write her lyrics, she can't dance, what exactly does she do?
Rihanna is talented and definitely very successful, but sales figures don't impress me like they used to. I guess it's because these days records seem to be broken each year. I think our exposure to music and the internet allows for that.
That being said, I just can't see her being as iconic a musician as Michael Jackson was as an entertainer.
That being said, I just can't see her being as iconic a musician as Michael Jackson was as an entertainer.
She can sing live, she does write lyrics, she can dutty whine like the best, but most important, she has your username, the X FACTOR. or the ICON factor.
And your post was a reach too, so we've come full circle.
Does having an insufferable nasal voice quality as a skill these days? There's not a lot of artists that I can't bear to have on in the background but Rihanna is one of them. My body is now trained to change the station any time her voice comes on.
Man, I wish I could be successful without doing anything. Guess that's what she does.
Soulscribe
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Her team's really good at staking out potential hit songs, then throwing her on them.
Stack #1s and helps out struggling rappers.
I think pop-gaf is scum and would be pretty happy having them all locked in solitary confinement till they die while listening to Eminem diss tracks for their favourite pop trash artist.
But GAF is very out of touch if they dont realize how popular Rihanna is. Shes not MJ obviously but she is probably at the top in the current crop.
But GAF is very out of touch if they dont realize how popular Rihanna is. Shes not MJ obviously but she is probably at the top in the current crop.
Weapxn
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I've seen Janet live twice (2001 & 2012), and that doesn't describe either performance. In 2001 she fucking KILLED. All of the current pop girls should go watch the All For You tour DVD and take rabid notes. In 2012, she was slower, but when she whipped out the dance moves, they were still fierce as hell.
The diss could be pretty precise in terms of her 2008 tour though. That was a disaster.
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TheXfactor
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Violent.
Like fave, like stan, you victim blaming mess
Shame you're in the minority.
Much better than having full creative control of your album and single releases, and then releasing an album to middling sales, and singles that the General Public pays dust, all the while Rih lazily sings the chorus to a single and it becomes a bigger smash than anything Gags has put out his year.
Her team is miles better than Gaga and her team will ever be. Poor it.
SecretMoblin
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WhereAreMahDragonz
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I think part of the problem is, and correct me if I'm wrong, that she really isn't a global artist like MJ and pretty much everyone else on that list. I think she's known in most markets outside of the US for having her face smashed in.
Janet toured in 2012? Mind blown
(goes look how tiny the venues must have been)
Red Liquorice
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So in 30 years time, what big Rhiana songs will be known by the general public other than ella-ella-ella?
You can't really count on sales as a barometer of success (other than raw financial gain for record companies) because the market has constantly changing goal posts in terms of marketing and sales. It's cultural impact and longevity that are the real markers of success.
In other words - she's shite.
You can't really count on sales as a barometer of success (other than raw financial gain for record companies) because the market has constantly changing goal posts in terms of marketing and sales. It's cultural impact and longevity that are the real markers of success.
In other words - she's shite.
Seethe at our iconic status and relevance.
PhoenixDark
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How many #1 records does Beyonce have?
I'll correct you. You're wrong. She just sold out her WW tour including stadiums in the UK. She is very well known outside of the US, commanding attention from people in all kinda of countries across all continents.
Only 5. Poor it. She put out seven singles from her last album and 1 went to the top 20 and none want top 10. A flop.
In my experience most people know outside NA have heard her music and like it.
Relevant like rats in an old bar occasionally scurrying about annoying and disgusting the odd person. But the bar's owner is too busy to call the exterminator.
You watch Got 2 B Real?
What?
http://www.stan-wars.com/1989.html
Not to mention,
The Beatles vs. The Rolling Stones (Beach Boys :crie
Oasis vs. Blur
East Coast vs. West Coast
N*SYNC vs. Backstreet Boys
Mozart vs. Salieri
It's not just popular music, either; in opera you've had claques, which were basically stans that artists paid to applaud them indiscriminately, for centuries.
I'm sure this sort of behavior has been a thing almost as long as producers of music have had fans.
PhoenixDark
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Is there a theory behind why Rihanna is so much more popular? I'd imagine both have access to the best song writers and tracks. Maybe because Beyonce hasn't really managed to translate well to the house pop stuff going on over the last few years, whereas Rihanna is firmly established in it?
Beyonce's last couple albums have R&B tracks which just don't chart well anymore, whereas Rihanna is basically a hit machine.
A hitler sized mess.
I think it's quite simple.
Rihanna is much more in tune with what is popular in the pop music scene and she's always on top of it, while Bernard isn't. Beyst comes across as a tryhard and Rih comes across like she is effortlessly staying on top of the pop world. She sings on a track and it becomes a hit, whereas Beyoncé over sings on a track and no one wants to hear it.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Not everyone can be like Rihanna
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WhereAreMahDragonz
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Straight Up
Forever Your Girl
Cold Hearted
Opposites Attract
Rush Rush
The Promise of a New Day
1989 - 1991; all went #1
She had a brief little run there.
This wasn't a Taylor thread but okay
wot
The most popular song of the entire year by a country mile was an RnB track. Ariana Grande's music is a mariah carey knockoff and it gets regular play as well. Timberlake crushed the buildings on Suit and Tie and Holy Grail.
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