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Rihanna | Talk That Talk | November 21st

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Rash said:
I'm so impressed that I almost fell off my chair.
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Proof*!
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May not be proof.
 
I wonder if you guys have heard the talk that's been going around about "We Found Love" being really similar to a song that was released a few months before it (both song and video). I think they are pretty similar, but I want to hear what you guys think. I'm thinking they have similarities because these two songs share a producer, what's his name, Stargate.

Marina and the Diamonds - Radioactive
 
Rihanna has nine writing credits out of 13 songs on Rated R. This may or may not be why it's arguably her best album.

Just give this girl a good two years to write her own material. It'd probably make for her most interesting work yet.
 
SpiffyG said:
I wonder if you guys have heard the talk that's been going around about "We Found Love" being really similar to a song that was released a few months before it (both song and video). I think they are pretty similar, but I want to hear what you guys think. I'm thinking they have similarities because these two songs share a producer, what's his name, Stargate.

Marina and the Diamonds - Radioactive
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Songs are very different. Videos have similar themes but are pretty different overall. And Stargate didn't produce We Found Love, Calvin Harris did.

Rash said:
Rihanna has nine writing credits out of 13 songs on Rated R. This may or may not be why it's arguably her best album.

Just give this girl a good two years to write her own material. It'd probably make for her most interesting work yet.
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That could work out well, hopefully she takes a decent break after this album.
 
cory. said:
Songs are very different. Videos have similar themes but are pretty different overall. And Stargate didn't produce We Found Love, Calvin Harris did..
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I guess I didn't think that one through. I knew Calvin Harris had something to do with it, I just for some reason assumed Stargate was involved too.
 
I'd really like Rihanna to make more Caribbean style beats, like man down. I'm kind of fed up of seeing all of these artists trying to incorporate crappy dance beats into their music.
 
Rash said:
Rihanna has nine writing credits out of 13 songs on Rated R. This may or may not be why it's arguably her best album.

Just give this girl a good two years to write her own material. It'd probably make for her most interesting work yet.
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That is funny. Rated R is one of my favorite albums by her. How many writing credits did she have on Good Girl Gone Bad?
 
Speaking of different songs that sound similar, Birthday Cake is practically a shameless rip-off of Beyoncé's Videophone.

Compare BDay Cake @ 0:20 to Videophone.
 
Koodo said:
Speaking of different songs that sound similar, Birthday Cake is practically a shameless rip-off of Beyoncé's Videophone.

Compare BDay Cake @ 0:20 to Videophone.
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Except BDay Cake is good
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Is there anything like Man Down on the album?
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Sadly no. Islandy rihanna skipped this one.

Hearing TTT today on basketball practice. I quite like it but its clear Rated R stays a masterpiece, while TTT will be used for gym sessions yass.
 
Koodo said:
Speaking of different songs that sound similar, Birthday Cake is practically a shameless rip-off of Beyoncé's Videophone.

Compare BDay Cake @ 0:20 to Videophone.
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All I hear when Birthday Cake starts is the sound effect that got used a lot in early and mid 90s house from Europe.

Like in this song (quite obviously!) , and this one (at 2m27s), and in this one (sort off)... There's an even more obvious example, but I can't think of the title. It's basically exactly the same sound effect as used in the beginning of "Birthday Cake".

Thought that was funny.
On first few listens, only Talk that Talk stands out as a catchy song to me. Will continue to listen and form opinion though. :)
 
Souldriver said:
All I hear when Birthday Cake starts is the sound effect that got used a lot in early and mid 90s house from Europe.

Like in this song (quite obviously!) , and this one (at 2m27s), and in this one (sort off)... There's an even more obvious example, but I can't think of the title. It's basically exactly the same sound effect as used in the beginning of "Birthday Cake".

Thought that was funny.
On first few listens, only Talk that Talk stands out as a catchy song to me. Will continue to listen and form opinion though. :)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_sound Looks like Bad Romance brought it back.

This album has lots of 90s dance sounds going on.
 
cory. said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_sound Looks like Bad Romance brought it back.

This album has lots of 90s dance sounds going on.
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Lol, I've been searching for about an hour to find decent examples of what I'm referring to, hurting my brains over what the title of the song is that best utilizes the sound effect, and you just waltz in here a minute after my post and mention exactly 1 word to make all my searching completely obsolete and unnecessary.

Time well spend on my part. ;)
 
Where have you been suffers from the same thing lots of dubstep songs do btw. The verses and buildup to the chorus are okay, but then with the chorus the whole song just becomes completely different and void of melody, and gets silly to say the least. Such an embarrassingly weak and goofy beat. Wasted potential. Eh...
 
Crumpet Trumpet said:
You Da One is probably my favorite song on here. And it's getting Born This Way-esque updates on American radio so it'll probably be huge.
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The updates YDO is getting are insane. The main difference being BTW was overly hyped while YDO just came out of nowhere.

The song is going on sale in a few hours. I think it has a real chance to debut at #1. Making it her 12th number one. On the same level as Madonna!

Dat shit cray!!
 
Crumpet Trumpet said:
You Da One is probably my favorite song on here. And it's getting Born This Way-esque updates on American radio so it'll probably be huge.
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Interscope and now Def Jam payed for them to get overplayed.

So far
Where Have You Been is the only thing that is sticking but even that sounds like a song that has been remixed for the clubs

Cockiness gets played just for the lyrics.
 
After listening to it a bit:

1) You da one
It's okay I guess. The chorus is kinda catchy.​
2) Where have you been
Sounds like it's already a remix of a Rihanna song. It's nothing special, but okay up until the weird anticlimactic "techno" chorus starting at the 1m13s mark.​
3) We found love
Good song, except for it leading to nowhere criticism that many have already talked about. I'm tired of it, but that doesn't make it a bad song.​
4) Talk that talk
Love this song. Highlight of the album for me. This album's Rude Boy (although Rude Boy is still much better: the bridge in it is the best part of the song, while in Talk that Talk the bridge is the worst part of the song).​
5) Cockiness (Love it)
I find the lyrics "suck my cockiness, lick my persuasion" silly, but funny. The song itself isn't really my thing though: kinda monotonous and annoying.​
6) Birthday Cake
Starts of with a throwback to techno/house from the early 90s. And then the "cake cake cake cake cake" part starts which makes this song really dirty sounding. Then the "oooh I wanna fuck you right now, mmm mmmm" which seems like the song is progressing nicely, and then it fades out?! WTF is this shit? This song could've been really good. :(​
7) We all want love
I'm not a fan of (power)ballads in general. So this song doesn't do much for me, but the chorus is okay.​
8) Drunk on love
The XX intro really doesn't need any lyrics on it. It isn't made for it, so you just end up having some grating melody on top of it that tries to mesh well, but has no real hook or catchiness to it.​
9) Roc me out
The melody of the verses remind me of chorus of Rude Boy. They sound similar. The song itself is pretty meh.​
10) Watch n Learn
Song sounds "Caribbean", for the lack of a better word. I don't find the song any special though.​
11) Farewell
This album's second (power)ballad, and I think I like it less the We all want love. As I said: I rarely like songs of this genre anyway.​



All in all, this album is a disappointment. I rarely if ever like an album front to back, but I usually find at least 3 or 4 songs that I really like. Good Girl Gone Bad has about 5 good songs, Rated R has 6, Loud has 3. Other recent albums (Born this way, Femme Fatale) also gave me lots of listening material.

Talk that talk just gave me 2 songs: We Found Love and Talk that Talk. And I'm tired of the former. So yeaah, this album disappoints. Hopefully Rihanna releases a new album in about 6 months. ;)
 
Haven't read through most of this thread, but I just heard "Drunk on Love" was it produced by Jaime xx? It sounds like one of his beats.

Edit: just went through and saw that its sampling an the xx song, thought it sound familiar, it gels so well with her voice, fantastic song.
 
The more I listen to it the more dissapointed I get. Basically I love two songs (WFL and TTT.... and if Birthday Cake was full I'd stan so hard for it) and the rest is... ok. Nothing here is downright awful IMO but not really great. It's just ok.

Rih why you gotta be such a fierce single's artist and yet neglect your albums (except Godly Rated R and to a lesser degree GGGB).
 
inthezone said:
The more I listen to it the more dissapointed I get. Basically I love two songs (WFL and TTT.... and if Birthday Cake was full I'd stan so hard for it) and the rest is... ok. Nothing here is downright awful IMO but not really great. It's just ok.

Rih why you gotta be such a fierce single's artist and yet neglect your albums (except Godly Rated R and to a lesser degree GGGB).
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Heh, basically exactly the same as my opinion two posts above yours.
- Talk that talk = great
- We Found love = good, but I'm tired of it
- Birthday cake = would be great if complete.


About Birthday cake. I don't even understand why it isn't a complete song. It's not as if they only made 1 minute that would be looped for 3 minutes. As the song fades out, you can clearly hear (1) new verses, which are (2) more melodic and (3) have backing vocals. Obviously the song actually continues... Fuck this shit! Could've been an awesome, nasty song.
 
Seriously wtf is Birthday Cake only 1m long? I actually liked that song, shit had a dope sound for the instrumentals and she actually sounded hot for a change.
 
first page of this thread is hilarious. as soon as I read "Pop queen Rihanna", the Bey/Gaga/Britney hit squads wouldn't be too far behind.

I was not disappointed.
 
Just gave this a listen on Spotify. There's a few good tracks, still love "We found love" but aside from that it's a pretty weak album. She really needs to take a break, the last two albums were amazing but this one is a huge let down.

Not a fan of her trying to be as crude as possible in some of the songs on this one either, really don't get that. I don't listen to great pop music so I can hear a suggestive almost-pun.

Will give it another listen or two tomorrow but I can't see myself buying the whole thing, maybe grab a few of the tracks I like.
 
SpiffyG said:
I wonder if you guys have heard the talk that's been going around about "We Found Love" being really similar to a song that was released a few months before it (both song and video). I think they are pretty similar, but I want to hear what you guys think. I'm thinking they have similarities because these two songs share a producer, what's his name, Stargate.

Marina and the Diamonds - Radioactive
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I don't think the songs sound all that similar, videos are comparable though.

Mostly I'm replying to your post to thank you for linking to Marina, loved her voice in that video so went on Spotify and listened to some other tracks. Really digging her, in lieu of buying Rihanna's new album I think I'll be grabbing some Marina & The Diamonds.
 
Soulscribe said:
Why would it be weird?
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I'm saying it in a way. Like some of my friends would look at me crazy if they heard me listening to Rihanna or Nicki Minaj, etc. For some reason I like their (Rihanna) music though. I listen to the lyrics and like the beat.

I just thought others felt the same way I did. Like saying a guy likes some Justin Bieber songs. And if he admits it. People would look at him crazy or weird.

That's the type of weird I'm talking about.
 
I recently listened to Russian Roulette after not having listened to it in a while (it's my fave off Rated R), and just the last 5 seconds with the gun's cylinder spinning and her anxious breathing is more innovative and fresh than all 37 minutes on Talk That Talk.

This gerl just isn't trying anymore.
 
'Talk That Talk' went straight to No.1 in the UK album chart with 160,000 copies sold in its first week. For comparison 'Loud' sold 91,000 copies in its first week.

Her people made a wise choice to release a new album in such a short space of time..
 
Listened to it multiple times now and it catches me more than Loud did back when it came out. Rated R still is my favorite album though. I hear that she's having writing credits here like with Rated R? Then that must not be a coincidence this album is my second favorite.

I dunno if people will love it though, people like shit music and club/dance atrocities for the most part. This album here, like Rated R is a bit more toward "real music" and therefore might not be loved by the mainstream sea.

As for the songs more precisely, I think You Da One is good but not great. Catchy single for sure -- will probably work fine. Where Have You Been and We Found Love are standard nightclub stuff but Rihanna is good at this. Trumps pretty much anything else playing there actually. We found Love is the superior song of the two though. Drunk on Love is right now my favorite. Best song she pulled off since Cold Case Love. And since it's fucking great, most people probably won't like and it probably won't be a single. For shame.

Lastly, I'd like to say Birthday Cake is original, musically more interesting than the rest of the album so.... What the hell happened there? I needed 5 minbs of that juice. Rock Me out, Talk That Talk, Watch and Learn and Farewell is standard Rihanna stuff. Nothing really interesting but still not trash. Cockiness is the trash song. They should have deleted that crap.
 
I bit and bought the album, deluxe edition mind you. The pics and artwork is nice looking. Rihanna is attractive. Never really cared for her like that but I had to sit down and listen to her songs. Catchy. All the tracks were decent. Cockiness is pretty hysterical. I was baggin up the whole time throughout that track. Other than that the album is 8 or 9 out of 10. Her album 'Loud' was more catchy though but Talk That Talk isn't bad per se. I'm pissed though because Birthday Cake had a nice beat going on. And it was cut off. That shit should of been a full fledge track and not an interlude.
 
Rash said:
Quality goes down. Quantity and profitability (and, hell, popularity) go up.

That's just fucking lovely.
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That's just in the UK. She's expected to debut at #3 with around 200k sales in North America, which would be a roughly stagnant number compared to Loud's 207k debut.

A bit sad considering the massive hits and exposure she's had in the past year, and the tremendous success of the lead single.
 
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