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RIP Windows Phone - Market share slips bellow 1%

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darkinstinct said:
Their mobile strategy is all over the place. First they have no phones, then they have flagship phones with every big player. Then they go exclusively Nokia. Then they buy Nokia. Then they release phones without the Nokia branding. Then they sell Nokia Here, which is like the best map service ever. Then they sell all feature phones. But they still sell Lumias. Just not with the Nokia brand. But they decide it is a good time to not bring a new model at all this year. And go all-in next year with Windows 10. At the same time they first say that basically every Lumia that is running WP8 will get Windows 10. Half a year later Windows 10 is only available to a select few devices and the other phones won't get it, even though it is still working on those devices with Windows Insider. I have never seen such a bad strategy. I hope they go back to their first idea. A Samsung S7 Edge running Windows 10 would be lovely.
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You forgot all the hijinx before iPhone/Android: the WinCE, Windows Mobile 2002, WM 2003 2nd Edition; WM5; WM6 etc etc. I still have a Windows Kin One because it was such a classic out-of-touch Microsoft project.

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_Ryo_ said:
What's the reason for such low app support anyway, is WP really hard to code for or something?
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They didn’t sell enough for developers to care.

With UWP they made it incredibly easy to push an app to all devices with little effort, the hope is that this Will bring more apps to mobile. If UWP development takes off, then all those new apps should trickle down to mobile.
 
Such a beautiful OS. So wonderful, so majestic.

So fucking devoid of anything.

RIP Windows Phone, you clearly weren't meant for this world :(

And we never did get a surface phone like out of it too.
 
I'm reading this thread and posting this from my Windows Phone. It doesn't know that it's getting replaced when my contract is up next month.

RIP
 
Jump aboard the Android train, MS.

I use a knockoff WP8/10 launcher on my android, but an official Microsoft one, along with all the Outlook/IE/Groove/theme/etc apps would make me fall in love with Android again.
 
link1201 said:
I am still hoping for a surface phone. Is that a lost cause?
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A lost cause? No, but it will never live up to the insane standards the rumor mill has built up. People have hyped the specs up so much that the phone would cost like $1500. Ive heard some insane stuff, like 8gb RAM, 4K (or better...) screen, water cooled, x86 processor, 512gb+ storage.... Almost all of which is unrealistic and frankly unnecessary. The spec war didn't lose the battle for WP. Poor support and lack of apps killed it with the public, and seemingly lack of enthusiasm from MS killed it for the true fans of the platform.
 
gamz said:
I would love that!
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But a Microsoft Android phone would undermine their UWP efforts.

Also a fork of Android would mean no direct Play Store access, so the app situation wouldn’t be solved and doing a fork would be the only way to have a true tiled UI experience, not a skin like what Samsung and other players do.
 
If it wasn't for the lack of apps, I would be much happier with my windows phone. Holding out on getting a new phone until this dies, though. :P
 
gamz said:
Their Arrow Launcher for Android is fantastic.
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Thanks for the tip. I loved my 520, tiles was the best. Aside from horrible YouTube and video streaming. The lack of app support made me switch, especially vital ones that had discontinued support. M
 
RunLikeH3LL said:
But a Microsoft Android phone would undermine their UWP efforts.

Also a fork of Android would mean no direct Play Store access, so the app situation wouldn’t be solved and doing a fork would be the only way to have a true tiled UI experience, not a skin like what Samsung and other players do.
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No, no. I was talking a launcher that looked like WP. I wouldn't want a Android MS phone.
 
Futureman said:
I think they'll relaunch Windows Phone next year with a Surface phone. It will run full Windows 10.

MS still has a chance with some luck and good planning.
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Replace "Windows 10" with Window 7, 8, RT etc. They keep trying over and over again and there simply isn't a market for them.

Stop making shitty phones and get the courier team back together!

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I thought about buying a cheap Windows phone just to play Xbox mobile games but I've never been interested in one as my primary phone. Android is just so nice and customizable.
 
It's funny, the Android interface is pretty much how you imagined a Windows PDA/phone interface would look when you were younger. Dislike the Metro aesthetic, dislike Windows phones.
 
It's the best phone OS for me.
I really wanted to go back to WP after my current android phone but it's a dead end at this point.

Shame because all the stuff they announced with WP10 sounded awesome. What happened?

There's super cheap models that work great as GPS and music players
 
Sucks because I'm probably going to have to choose Apple or Android soon. I had such crappy experiences in the end with my Droid 4 and had really bad experiences with Apple a while back. I know Apple is a much different animal now but I don't trust them just like people here don't trust MS. I don't even care about apps (probably because I have been on WP for over a year now lol) but I like the build quality of iPhone and the freedom of Android...

Just going to have to run this Icon into the ground.
 
LowerLevel said:
Sucks because I'm probably going to have to choose Apple or Android soon. I had such crappy experiences in the end with my Droid 4 and had really bad experiences with Apple a while back. I know Apple is a much different animal now but I don't trust them just like people here don't trust MS. I don't even care about apps (probably because I have been on WP for over a year now lol) but I like the build quality of iPhone and the freedom of Android...

Just going to have to run this Icon into the ground.
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The Nexus 6P is really nice...
 
Windows can not survive at that market share. The phone will eventually also be the general workstation/personal computer. Windows would merely act as a virtual layer on servers before being completely phased out by native apps.

Microsoft will be something different in 15-20 years.
 
outunderthestars said:
I really disliked wireless charging on my S6. I hated how the screen would turn on whenever it hit 100%
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Don't have that problem at all with the Icon.

kharma45 said:
S7E is the best phone on the market, especially if you can get the Exynos.
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Something to consider when I do upgrade later this year/Summer. Just so entrenched in the Windows ecosystem, hard to see going back to Android. I also like the ability to "early" update my phone on WP too. Really sucked having to wait for a rollout of the update through Verizon. Might be time to switch from them as well...

Thanks for the responses guys!
 
LowerLevel said:
Don't have that problem at all with the Icon.



Something to consider when I do upgrade later this year/Summer. Just so entrenched in the Windows ecosystem, hard to see going back to Android. I also like the ability to "early" update my phone on WP too. Really sucked having to wait for a rollout of the update through Verizon. Might be time to switch from them as well...

Thanks for the responses guys!
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Everything Windows is also available on android.
 
LowerLevel said:
Don't have that problem at all with the Icon.



Something to consider when I do upgrade later this year/Summer. Just so entrenched in the Windows ecosystem, hard to see going back to Android. I also like the ability to "early" update my phone on WP too. Really sucked having to wait for a rollout of the update through Verizon. Might be time to switch from them as well...

Thanks for the responses guys!
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All the MS apps are there and work really well. I have a android but it's basically a windows phone except for the browser. I still use MS everything.
 
If Microsoft had the support and apps, I would buy one again but since they don't hello iOS. I think a large slice of the consumer pie would quite happily go with Windows mobile if hell freezes over and they get that sorted.

I don't think Microsoft should give up, even if they make one phone every year or none, build up Windows Mobile OS so it's on par or better than Android and iOS with nothing missing or half baked. If you're still turning up to the party late with less and incomplete features don't bother releasing any new phone.
 
I still think Windows Phone's saving grace, and ultimately the future of computing, is a full x86 computer in your pocket.

It's what I secretly hope the Surface Phone will be. That's a killer feature that no other company can offer.
 
RunLikeH3LL said:
They didn’t sell enough for developers to care.

With UWP they made it incredibly easy to push an app to all devices with little effort, the hope is that this Will bring more apps to mobile. If UWP development takes off, then all those new apps should trickle down to mobile.
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they wont trickle down if MS stops making phones, which seems to be their ultimate goal so far.

So unless they start selling 30-40 million phones per year again, platform is dead no matter how successful Windows 10 is. So there is no way that this will bring more apps to mobile. Only push I see is for them doing games to UWP which cant go to mobile or latest thing which is desktop apps to UWP which might happen but wont have anything to do with mobile.

So I see no sign whatsoever that there will be Windows Phones in 2017 or 2018.
 
SFenton said:
I still think Windows Phone's saving grace, and ultimately the future of computing, is a full x86 computer in your pocket.

It's what I secretly hope the Surface Phone will be. That's a killer feature that no other company can offer.
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Doesn't bode well when Intel has given up on the low end Atom chips. There is nothing for x86 phones unless AMD pulls something out the bag and even then, are they even suitable for a working day on the go. ARM is still the go to solution but Microsoft are still stuck in lack of apps hell. Funny, so long Windows RT but seems like they might have to go back for a Surface 4 or a Windows Mobile device Surface that is ARM.
 
Majine said:
Time for Microsoft to send out mail to everyone on earth, "If you don't decline this offer, we will ship you a Windows phone and charge you."
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Agreed. Using the same strategy they use to get people to upgrade to W10, I'm sure they'll quickly rise back to the cellular dominance they so rightfully deserve.
 
jelly said:
Doesn't bode well when Intel has given up on the low end Atom chips. There is nothing for x86 phones unless AMD pulls something out the bag and even then, are they even suitable for a working day on the go. ARM is still the go to solution but Microsoft are still stuck in lack of apps hell. Funny, so long Windows RT but seems like they might have to go back for a Surface 4 or a Windows Mobile device Surface that is ARM.
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Yeah, that's the big kicker. Read some rumors that that might be really straining the ability to make the Surface Phone. Hope it's not true (well, we know for a fact the Intel part is) and they have an alternative ready and weren't blindsided.

Either way, I still like WinPhone even though I use an Android, I still think Continuum/x86 mobile is the way to go- I'm always interested in seeing what they do next.
 
Majine said:
Time for Microsoft to send out mail to everyone on earth, "If you don't decline this offer, we will ship you a Windows phone and charge you."
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What if I "X" out of the e-mail!? WHAT THEN!?
 
It's a shame because I really liked Windows Phone back in the day. The Lumia 920 stands in the top three for one of the best phones I have ever owned. Unfortunately, Microsoft has really mismanaged the platform and even today they are still screwing things up.
 
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