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[Pegosaurus]

Against Gaara. Seriously. I've been re watching Naruto and Lee really got gipped in his fight against Gaara. Lee pulls out all his strongest moves, which easily eclipse the moves that Naruto used against Gaara (aside from Bunta). Lee could have won the fight agaiinst Gaara and they still could have had Naruto fight Gaara later after turning into Shukaku. The worst part is after he loses he just gets fucking sidelined for the rest of the series. Lee needed more screentime, his fighting style is so cool.

I needed to rant about this.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Against Gaara. Seriously. I've been re watching Naruto and Lee really got gipped in his fight against Gaara. Lee pulls out all his strongest moves, which easily eclipse the moves that Naruto used against Gaara (aside from Bunta). Lee could have won the fight agaiinst Gaara and they still could have had Naruto fight Gaara later after turning into Shukaku. The worst part is after he loses he just gets fucking sidelined for the rest of the series. Lee needed more screentime, his fighting style is so cool.

I needed to rant about this.

Yeah...The oddest thing about him losing

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is that once he has unlocked his potential he is surely (I think) hitting harder than even Naruto was when he did finally beat Gaara.

But for some reason Gaara's sand around his skin protects Gaara better against the stronger Lee than the weaker Naruto.

 

[Forkball]

Lee had to job to Gaara to make him look strong for the top baby face. Classic booking.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

The Rock Lee character totally undercut any sort of narrative of Naruto being an underdog for the rest of the series.

 

[Moaradin]

Naruto sucks at handling it's side characters. Lee gets maybe one or two good moments later on, but that's it. Other characters have it even worse.

 

[WrenchNinja]

The only person Lee can defeat is himself.

 

[FZZ]

That gourd bullshit pisses me off to this day

Fucking dumb

Also 8 gates Guy wasn't done enough justice. KISHIMOTOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Edwardo]

The only person Lee can defeat is himself.

damn

 

[Haly]

Naw, Gaara put Lee in his place.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Naruto sucks at handling it's side characters. Lee gets maybe one or two good moments later on, but that's it. Other characters have it even worse.

Agreed. Outside of Shikamaru, they give their side characters shit stories and development. But Shikamaru has a great arc in Shippuden. And what sucks is they try so hard to make us care about others...but you just can't do that when you're trying to force 20+ character stories in side-by-side.

 

[Zhengi]

Lee screwed Lee.

 

[LurkerPrime]

Naruto is a series where inborn talent and ancestry trumps skill every time. It wouldn't be right for Rock Lee to succeed in such a world. (I am basing this entirely on the anime. I didn't see much of the second series...)

Too bad Naruto already had Sasuke. Gaara was the better antihero.

 

[Daingurse]

Naw, Gaara put Lee in his place.

.

 

[Pein]

One of the best fights in anime ever, Lee would have would whooped any of the other rookies ass. Its just bad luck that he got matched against a dude that's perfect against taijutsu.

Shit was so amazing

 

[Ol No Bones]

Yeah. I can't disagree. The whole series peaked with the Chunin exams. Jiraiya and Pain's arc was pretty decent too but it really goes downhill after the chunin exams. Rock Lee v Gaara fight was the best though.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Naruto is a series where inborn talent and ancestry trumps skill every time. It wouldn't be right for Rock Lee to succeed in such a world. (I am basing this entirely on the anime. I didn't see much of the second series...)

Too bad Naruto already had Sasuke. Gaara was the better antihero.

I think you're absolutely right about the first part...I can't even think of a single powerful good guy in the show who didn't have a powerful ass ancestor.

And Naruto is good...but yeah, Gaara is the better antihero. His past kind of puts Naruto's to shame. I'd rather have dead parents than

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parents who tried to murder me

. Makes the billion Naruto crying-on-a-swing flashbacks make him look like a sissy in comparison.

Yeah. I can't disagree. The whole series peaked with the Chunin exams. Jiraiya and Pain's arc was pretty decent too but it really goes downhill after the chunin exams. Rock Lee v Gaara fight was the best though.

It was good, but you gotta give love to Sakura's fight

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vs Sasori

 

[Lulubop]

Naruto sucks at handling it's side characters. Lee gets maybe one or two good moments later on, but that's it. Other characters have it even worse.

Indeed, easily the weakest aspect of Naruto.

 

[Mass_Pincup]

Naruto sucks at handling it's side characters. Lee gets maybe one or two good moments later on, but that's it. Other characters have it even worse.

Neji got robbed.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Technically aren't Lee and his mentor the strongest ninjas without any innate power? That's why I always liked them 8D

 

[Pein]

]I think you're absolutely right about the first part...I can't even think of a single powerful good bye in the show who didn't have a powerful ass ancestor.
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And Naruto is good...but yeah, Gaara is the better antihero. His past kind of puts Naruto's to shame. I'd rather have dead parents than

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parents who tried to murder me

. Makes the billion Naruto crying-on-a-swing flashbacks make him look like a sissy in comparison.

Jiraiya
Orochimaru
Minato
Gai

 

[SilentRacoon]

Everyone knows Rock Lee is the Yamcha of the series, so no , he is doomed to be a failure forever.

One of my favorite fights in the whole anime for sure.

 

[Ol No Bones]

Naruto sucks at handling it's side characters. Lee gets maybe one or two good moments later on, but that's it. Other characters have it even worse.

No doubt. Even Sasuke and Sakura were screwed over. Its just a damn shame that so many interesting characters were introduced and neglected.

 

[SmokeMaxX]

Technically aren't Lee and his mentor the strongest ninjas without any innate power? That's why I always liked them 8D

Lee's mentor has innate power (i.e. he can do ninjutsu). He just chooses not to use ninjutsu techniques.

 

[Mortemis]

Naruto sucks at handling it's side characters. Lee gets maybe one or two good moments later on, but that's it. Other characters have it even worse.

Sucks is an understatement. Fucking garbage is more like it.

 

[LeleSocho]

I waited until the last fight to get something on the level of Gaara vs Rock Lee but no dice...
Chunnin exam truly was the best thing that came out of the entire franchise.
Only thing that came close was Jiraiya vs Pain.

 

[Pegosaurus]

Yeah. I can't disagree. The whole series peaked with the Chunin exams. Jiraiya and Pain's arc was pretty decent too but it really goes downhill after the chunin exams. Rock Lee v Gaara fight was the best though.

i think the sasuke retrieval arc was better, but chuunin exams might have come out on top if lee had won

edit: this might change during my rewatch though since I havent finished part 1 yet

One of the best fights in anime ever, Lee would have would whooped any of the other rookies ass. Its just bad luck that he got matched against a dude that's perfect against taijutsu.

Shit was so amazing

agreed

when lee takes those weights off >>>>>

gaara apparently isn't the best against taijutsu though because naruto beats him with a headbutt (and damages him with 2k barrage)

Naruto sucks at handling it's side characters. Lee gets maybe one or two good moments later on, but that's it. Other characters have it even worse.

I really wish the side characters were handled better, especially Lee, Neji, and Hinata. I would have loved to see more arcs that fleshed out their characters

edit: also Orochimaru. Did we even get a conclusion to his story?

 

[FZZ]

I waited until the last fight to get something on the level of Gaara vs Rock Lee but no dice...
Chunnin exam truly was the best thing that came out of the entire franchise.
Only thing that came close was Jiraiya vs Pain.

Breh Naruto vs. Pain was fucking godlike

 

[Ol No Bones]

Indeed, easily the weakest aspect of Naruto.

I think you're absolutely right about the first part...I can't even think of a single powerful good guy in the show who didn't have a powerful ass ancestor.

And Naruto is good...but yeah, Gaara is the better antihero. His past kind of puts Naruto's to shame. I'd rather have dead parents than

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parents who tried to murder me

. Makes the billion Naruto crying-on-a-swing flashbacks make him look like a sissy in comparison.



It was good, but you gotta give love to Sakura's fight

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vs Sasori

Oh damn. I forgot somehow. Chiyo and Sakura forever in my heart.

 

[Pein]

Breh Naruto vs. Pain was fucking godlike

Kakashi vs obito is pure amazing.

 

[robotzombie]

Shikamaru is such a great anime. Naruto is a pretty cool side character.

 

[FZZ]

Kakashi vs obito is pure amazing.

agreed

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Oh damn. I forgot somehow. Chiyo and Sakura forever in my heart.

Yeah. That fight is one of my most re-watched fights in the show. It's hard not to get pumped when this music kicks in with the violin.

Shikamaru is such a great anime.

He has just about the best episode of the entire show after

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Asuma dies

. So well handled and depressing. Just a slow, sad episode.

 

[Reset]

Rock Lee had the best fights in the series. Straight up hand to hand fights from what I remember, no garbage ninjutsu spam or whatever.

 

[chrisPjelly]

Nah, it's easily one of the most dramatic and action-packed moments of the series. The troubling part is that

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it heavily implied that Guy Sensei should've died when he unlocked all gates

 

[Jintor]

hard work hardly works

 

[Pegosaurus]

Rock Lee had the best fight in the series.

fixed

I think you're absolutely right about the first part...I can't even think of a single powerful good guy in the show who didn't have a powerful ass ancestor

Jiraiya
Sarutobi
Guy
Kakashi
Minato

Naruto is a series where inborn talent and ancestry trumps skill every time. It wouldn't be right for Rock Lee to succeed in such a world. (I am basing this entirely on the anime. I didn't see much of the second series...)

Too bad Naruto already had Sasuke. Gaara was the better antihero.

I kind of wish Sasuke didn't go bad. I really liked when he and naruto had a semi friendly rivalry, and i think it would have been cool to see them become progressively better at working as a team over the course of the series.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Jiraiya
Sarutobi
Guy
Kakashi
Minato

Do we know any of these people's parents? Or does it never go into them? I honestly can't remember. But either way, yeah. These are probably good examples. Especially Jiraiya.

I kind of wish Sasuke didn't go bad. I really liked when he and naruto had a semi friendly rivalry, and i think it would have been cool to see them become progressively better at working as a team over the course of the series.

I wouldn't have minded it so much if they would've waited a bit longer. It happened way too damn fast that Sasuke went to the dark side. It'd make Naruto's constant search for him more touching if they'd built up that relationship and partnership longer. If you think about it though, they really weren't friends that long before Sasuke took off.

 

[Pegosaurus]

Do we know any of these people's parents? Or does it never go into them? I honestly can't remember. But either way, yeah. These are probably good examples. Especially Jiraiya.

Kakashi's dad was the White Fang, pretty powerful but not like super powered. Guy's dad could only do the 8 gates jutsu, and I think he might have created it? That wasn't really clear for me.

The others aren;t mentioned, but Jiraiya is mentioned as once being a failure like Naruto, so he's a pretty prime example.

 

[Mass_Pincup]

Kakashi

I seem to remember that his father was actually quite powerful

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I seem to remember that his father was actually quite powerful

He was powerful-ish, but I give him a pass because his father is a bit of a "failure". If that makes sense....Kakashi became strong fighting to get out of the negative shadow. Or am I making that up?

 

[Magwik]

Neji got robbed.

It was all part of the plan
https://imgur.com/a/gc6Cc

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Ey, show never really recovered from it's Chuunin exam high points, and Lee had the best fights.

Also when Lee went drunken fist, I geeked out.

The Rock Lee character totally undercut any sort of narrative of Naruto being an underdog for the rest of the series.

Yes, and hell, once they confirmed Naruto linage, it completely destroyed it really. He wasn't just random unlucky kid working to better himself, meh.

 

[dani_dc]

Naruto is a series where inborn talent and ancestry trumps skill every time. It wouldn't be right for Rock Lee to succeed in such a world. (I am basing this entirely on the anime. I didn't see much of the second series...)

Too bad Naruto already had Sasuke. Gaara was the better antihero.

It just gets worse in part 2.

edit: also Orochimaru. Did we even get a conclusion to his story?

Manga spoilers

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Yes, Naruto just lets him continuing to do his thing while maintaining a neutral relationship between both.

Jiraiya
Sarutobi
Guy
Kakashi
Minato

Kakashi dad was actually a really famous ninja.

 

[Haly]

Every named ninja in Naruto was famous or had a famous lineage. The real underdogs are those poor mooks who get slaughtered whenever shit hits the fan.

 

[Ganzlinger]

Rock Lee was the hero of the masses. The hokage we deserve.

 

[Ol No Bones]

1. Gaara v Rock Lee
2. Sasori v Chiyo/Sakura
3. Naruto v Pain
4. Jiraiya v Pain
5. Team 7 v Zabuza
6. Orochimaru v Third Hokage
7. Sasuke v Danzo (Best Sasuke Fight IMO)
8. Sasuke v Itachi
9. Sasuke/Naruto v Haku
10. New team 10(kakashi) v Kakuzu and Hidan

Some of the latter fights are good but my overall displeasure with the series direction reflects poorly on them.

 

[Hidden One]

Man I remember watching that fight on Toonami..

 

[Redd]

Rock Lee got robbed in development. He was the true underdog.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Rock Lee was the hero of the masses. The hokage we deserve.

I ended having some more fun with his comedy side series than what Naruto became, though I would have loved to just have a Rock Lee series a la Naruto, the real underdog in a world full of Ninjitsu freaks all over and just kick ass in creative ways.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

5. Team 7 v Zabuza?? Eh IDK

Can't believe I forgot this fight. A friend showed it to me out-of-order when the show had just started in Japan, and I was immediately hooked. So damn good.