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Rocket League may be getting a crate and key system?
- Thread starter CountAntonius
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If you have to pay for a key it's already very different than it is in Overwatch though. Overwatch offers free content that you can pay to speed up your acquisition of. Key and Crate systems are inherantly paywalls.
Dipship31
Member
Meh different hit boxes for different sized and shaped cars never bothered me nor affected my play. As long as none of the crate content alters how the game is actually played I won't care.
League of Legends has shown that a lootbox system CAN work as long as it's added alongside normal DLC practices.
For those that don't know, you earn chests and keys from playing and winning matches. You earn a chest from getting a high ranking on a champion and you can only earn one per year per champion. Keys are gotten randomly from winning.
You can still buy skins and cosmetics in the store like normal. These crates in League are just extra.
It's not perfect, but it's a million times better than the CS:GO system.
For those that don't know, you earn chests and keys from playing and winning matches. You earn a chest from getting a high ranking on a champion and you can only earn one per year per champion. Keys are gotten randomly from winning.
You can still buy skins and cosmetics in the store like normal. These crates in League are just extra.
It's not perfect, but it's a million times better than the CS:GO system.
MatthewMungall
Member
Perfection.
Ban Puncher
Member
EatinOlives
Member
Well, Rocket League had a good run.
And I saw this coming too the instant I saw a hat "drop".
And I saw this coming too the instant I saw a hat "drop".
CountAntonius
Member
I hope so 75k for RLCS just doesn't have the same hype that say 1 million does.
jediyoshi
Member
I'm going to guess that this isn't actually a distinction many people are making in their heads.
How the game is actually played? If you ever care to dribble or hit the ball in the air, the difference between a taller vehicle or one that's wide and flat are all the difference you have.
Well, you are assuming the keys for the Crates will be exclusively paid for. But they could very well be available as free drops too (like it happened with Payday 2)
The guy you replied to said "crate content", which is basically guaranteed to be cosmetic. They won't lock new cars behind it.
Interfectum
Gold Member
It's a pretty big difference though.
CountAntonius
Member
Cars are already paid DLC I would be very surprised if they locked any behind a gambling mechanic key system.
My take on it.
Interfectum
Gold Member
I still think they could go the OW way and do fine though. Just give people random loot crate drops and allow the person to buy more loot crates if they want. No keys in the equation at all.
Well, that's basically the exact same system they have in place now except they'd be adding in the ability to buy drops instead of pray on RNG working for you.
I'd rather just have some ultra rare drops and you can buy and sell those.
Fbh
Member
That's it?.
Doesn't seem so horribly evil as people say.
I'm kinda annoyed by the drops really, it's another button press keeping me away from getting to the next game.
Then again, I play with he Delorean so I haven't cared about cosmetic stuff for months
CountAntonius
Member
This is what I would like. They could still have all their systems in place and add the player trading they said they want to eventually implement as well as make limited time cases to fund e-sports tournaments and such.
TimeEffect
Member
All dlc cars have followed the molding of one of the vanilla cars though
I dont expect new cars to be different molds. Despite subtle differences, everyone has access to the same hit boxes
SatelliteOfLove
Member
No paid keys so I can feel good selling rando cosmetics for $$$.
Emperor Bohe
Member
psyonix please. the only way i'll allow it is if the trade off is that they finally make PS4/Xbox One cross play happen
Microsoft/Sony pls
It's their loss if they don't as Overwatch doesn't charge you to open loot boxes you obtain by just playing the game and neither does the game offer you to market your obtained cosmetics.
Having to pay for keys to roll the slot machine on those crates is something inherently different, and that's not even considering the idea of marketing them and having an economy surrounding these crate items based on their rarity.
PapaEmeritus
Member
Do you pay to unlock boxes in Overwatch?
aspiegamer
Member
Cosmetic is okay, but it's pretty lame for a game that's already had a ton of (entirely good and reasonably-priced) paid DLC to add that sort of stuff. If there's future paid DLC on top of the available crates? That's even worse. Given the game's history it just leaves a sour feeling in general, though. The most basic core game (arena, a few cars) turning F2P would also change things.
Really I couldn't care less about crate loot in most any game if it's 110% cosmetic. It's a pretty shameful cash grab, but it's at least obvious that it's a cash grab. I've paid for add-on skins/costumes in games before and understand the desire for that stuff. Just no trading market, please. Christ. The CSGO system is a blight upon the entire gaming industry. It always was, and it's become far more obvious this past week.
CarbonFire
Member
When rarity and variations or items showed up, yeah something like this felt inevitable.
I'd honestly be fine with the game going F2P if it is done WELL. I don't typically consider blind crates "doing it well" though.
shira
Member
Dota crates are like 1/4 odds all the way to 1/1000 to for ultra-rare.
Chests vary from $4 to $400
I mean, yes? There's no reason to have separate drops if they're both just free, one is inevitably harder to get than the other, just make that drop the crate without a key. Payday is different in that it went down a horrible road and then pulled back due to backlash.
No. You get them free every time you level (~an hour and change per), you can buy more, but the crates are easily earned for free and cost nothing to open. Each one also has 4 items instead of 1. You're talking a free item like every 15-20 minutes. Also some of them are gold, and the more items you have the more gold you earn (because duplicates become gold). Gold is used to directly buy unlocks, so if you spent say, 25 bucks and didn't get what you wanted, you'd almost guaranteed have earned enough gold to get it, as well as a bunch of other items you may have wanted. SLIGHTLY less likely if it's like your first 25 boxes.
CraigerGamer
Member
Sounds good to me. Hopefully the game goes F2P and any loyal customer who have bought the game (2 times) get a few crates and keys for free.
GinoFelino
Member
You guys.
For a year you're like 'the game that keeps on giving, just let us pay you Psyonix!!'
And now this might be coming, and all of a sudden Psyonix are a bunch of greedy assholes.
For a year you're like 'the game that keeps on giving, just let us pay you Psyonix!!'
And now this might be coming, and all of a sudden Psyonix are a bunch of greedy assholes.
Pretty much this. Thankfully I never gave a dime to these guys. I really hope the laws catch up with this. Any gambling style DLC should have age verification and geo tagging to make sure the person is in an area where gambling is legal. I am sick of this gambling style DLC it is low as a developer can go.
You get one free box per level.
You can also buy boxes for chance to obtain 4 random items.
So yes, you don't buy "keys" per se, but seems like the same to me.
7DollarHagane
Banned
They will make a ton of money with this. The difference is the items won't be tradable so it will just be pay to get items.
JigglesBunny
Banned
Psyonix made one of the best, most accessible Multiplayer games. I mean, it's in my Top 10 of all time. Stuff like this will ruin that accessibility.
This whole "key and crate" business was gross long before this current controversy, and a game as awesome as Rocket League doesn't need this sort of shit in it.
This whole "key and crate" business was gross long before this current controversy, and a game as awesome as Rocket League doesn't need this sort of shit in it.
Sure sell DLC or expansion packs. Anything but this scummy gambling style DLC.
bananafactory
Banned
Someone tell me how affects your ability to enjoy the game you bought
I'm lost here
I'm lost here
hey were asking to buy skins and stuff, not play a slot machine.
CraigerGamer
Member
How does this ruin your accessibility?
CountAntonius
Member
They have moved away from DLC packs. Recent changes kinda shows the direction they are heading. Now you buy cars individually for 1.99 and all cosmetic items are drops(aside from NBA flags). Before it was 3.99 for two cars and cosmetic items. Adding the rareities, colored variants, certified items and eventually trading it's pretty clear where we are headed and for the most part if it means more money for RL and bigger tourney prizes I am okay with it assuming they keys don't lock out content behind pathetic rates.
GinoFelino
Member
They've been handing out free expansions and maps though!
This is cosmetic bullshit, toppers and the like. Who cares?