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Rottenwatch: Harry Potter And The Half Blood Prince.

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Pseudo_Sam said:
I, for one, greatly enjoyed GoF. I'd say it's my #2 Potter film, behind PoA. Dunno why it gets so much hate.

That whole last part was great.
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I love the last act of the film as well. But there was just too much important stuff cut out of the film. It should have been another 20-30 minutes longer. And the director was way off with Michael Gambon's Dumbledore. Violently shaking Harry and yelling at him? Awful.
 
Snaku said:
I love the last act of the film as well. But there was just too much important stuff cut out of the film. It should have been another 20-30 minutes longer. And the director was way off with Michael Gambon's Dumbledore. Violently shaking Harry and yelling at him? Awful.
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Eh. I've read the books numerous times, and Dumbledore from the movie never seemed out of place. Like a father worrying too much about his child, I just thought he was worried about the implications of Harry's name appearing in the Goblet. It seemed like a reasonable reaction at the time, at least.
 
Snaku said:
I love the last act of the film as well. But there was just too much important stuff cut out of the film. It should have been another 20-30 minutes longer. And the director was way off with Michael Gambon's Dumbledore. Violently shaking Harry and yelling at him? Awful.
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I finally caught the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th movies this weekend and I can't say I'm a fan of Gambon's Dumbledore over Richard Harris'. It went from a grandfatherly presence to a loud jerk.
 
Narag said:
I finally caught the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th movies this weekend and I can't say I'm a fan of Gambon's Dumbledore over Richard Harris'. It went from a grandfatherly presence to a loud jerk.
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Gambon didn't have much of a presence in the third film, but the scenes he was in were very Dumbledore-like. I especially liked his speech at the beginning of the school term. He's also very good in the fifth film. The one film where his performance alters dramatically into the 'loud jerk' is the fourth film, because that's how the director wanted him to act.
 
blah141 said:
WTF:

Imax version not being released till late july. fuck transformers. such bullshit.
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Not true. Only the IMAX 3D shows are delayed till the 29th. It starts in my local IMAX on Wednesday.

Digitally re-mastered into the unparalleled image and sound quality of The IMAX Experience® through proprietary IMAX DMR® technology, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince: An IMAX 3D Experience will be released nationwide on July 29th *(with select theatres in Los Angeles, Chicago and New York opening on July 15th) by Warner Bros. Pictures. Using IMAX’s revolutionary live action 2D to 3D conversion technology, the movie’s opening sequence, approximately 12 minutes, has been transformed into IMAX 3D for a truly magical beginning. With crystal clear images, laser-aligned digital sound and maximized field of view, IMAX provides the world’s most immersive movie experience.
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From http://www.imax.com/ (can't direct link - stupid Flash)
 
whytemyke said:
just got done watching Goblet of Fire. It still just tugs at the ol' heartstrings when Cedrics dad realizes that he's dead and just wails...
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Aaron Strife said:
Almost brought me to tears, I won't lie.

Moreso than any other death in the series (which I've been largely indifferent towards).
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duh, a weird looking dude we saw for like, eight seconds in the whole movie goes all BWAAAAAAA for two seconds and it made you cry? That's weird
 
Anasui Kishibe said:
duh, a weird looking dude we saw for like, eight seconds in the whole movie goes all BWAAAAAAA for two seconds and it made you cry? That's weird
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That should tell you that it's a well done scene and not "that's weird hurrr"
 
Won't make it to the midnight premiere. but will be there friday night. been watching the ABC Family preview. almost like watch the whole movie :lol.
 
That's bullcrap, Anasui. I didn't need to know the life story of Cedric's father to realize that he was an extremely proud and supportive dad. Two seconds earlier he was clapping and cheering his son's return only to realize his son was dead. The sound in his voice when he cried out was extremely moving. The actor did a great job. Any parent *would* cry out in a situation like that. They then cut to the crowd in shock as he wails. I thought that scene was the most memorable from the movie.
 
I was in London last week and wow, Half-Blood Prince was EVERYWHERE. It was practically impossible to escape.

I don't think there's anyone in UK who wouldn't know when the opening night is.
 
yeah i'm going to the premiere, but i really dont like most of the movies. the books are good, i really like #6....thouguh I thought 5 and 7 sucked ass.
 
Pseudo_Sam said:
I, for one, greatly enjoyed GoF. I'd say it's my #2 Potter film, behind PoA. Dunno why it gets so much hate.

That whole last part was great.
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Everything preceding (and including) the dragon was terrible and soulless.
 
Anasui Kishibe said:
that just tells me who are HP movies fanboys, and who aren't
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Inversely, it tells you who the book fanboys are. Because that scene was easily the biggest tear-jerker of the series because it was done so well. It wouldn't have been so powerful if it wasn't for the father's mourning and the excellent reactions from the cast as well as Harry's lament. It was a very well done scene, I don't want it to be sold short because the "in" thing to do is hate on GoF and (HBP spoiler)
I will be watching the climax, with Dumbledore's death, to compare. I personally was not a fan of OotP as much as the rest of the series and felt that the director did the worst. So we'll see how he handles the most important death scene of the book series compared to the "throw away" death scene of Cedric. That will show me if he has the chops to close the series in the two-part Deathly Hallows, or not.

LegendofJoe said:
Or it could tell you when someone has actually witnessed a parent crying out on pain at the sight of their dead child and strongly sympathizes with the character's reaction?
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Or, better yet, since everybody has been the child of a parent, I understood by thinking about it as if my mother or father found me dead. It was so well done.
 
Anasui Kishibe said:
that just tells me who are HP movies fanboys, and who aren't
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Or it could tell you when someone has actually witnessed a parent crying out in pain at the sight of their dead child and strongly sympathizes with the character's reaction?
 
So i was thinking, in the last movie (2nd part), will they show anything concerning the prologue?

I might walk out of the theater if they put it on film :S
 
The Cedric death in the movie was great. No way around that. The music and the acting from the person who played Amos, and the shots of the students reactions were quite great.

Rotten Tomatoes update: 41 total
40 fresh
1 rotten

98% :D

So i was thinking, in the last movie (2nd part), will they show anything concerning the prologue?

I might walk out of the theater if they put it on film :S
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They're doing it, confirmed by the producers. As they should. They're looking into different technologies to best find a way to go about using the original actors, like what was used in Ben Button.
 
blah141 said:
So i was thinking, in the last movie (2nd part), will they show anything concerning the prologue?

I might walk out of the theater if they put it on film :S
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the end thing from deathly hallows? the director said they will indeed film that
 
How do the manage to leave out The Gaunts?
They are the origin of 2 of the Horcruxes, and If I remember right, the entire point of the book was to introduce horcruxes and show how they were chosen
 
I loved reading about the Gaunts, and their connection to the overall plot, but as far as the movie adaption is concerned cutting them was probably a good idea.

The couple of minutes they would take up of the movie would only serve to imbalance the pacing and confuse the audience. The plot points they drive home can fairly easily be communicated in other ways.

It's a shame some of my favourite moments in HBP, the meeting between Riddle and Dumbledore for the DADA job, and Riddle charming his way into that rich woman's house, have been cut, but I understand why.
 
I thought the whole thing about Hepzibah Smith was kind of boring. It was cool from a wow Voldemort is an asshole perspective, but we already know that.

The Gaunts would have been great, but their omission is sensible from a screenwriting standpoint.
 
blah141 said:
So i was thinking, in the last movie (2nd part), will they show anything concerning the prologue?

I might walk out of the theater if they put it on film :S
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I think you've meant epilogue :p

It was horrible, yeah. Read like fan fiction. Still, eh. I guess they kinda have to include it :s
 
Ceebs said:
That leaves what 2 flashbacks then? The orphanage and Slughorns? The flashbacks were the best part of the book.
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You got it. Those are the two that they kept. I'm so glad they kept the orphanage flashback, that was one of my favorites and the cinematography, the colors and depth of the picture and hazy dream-like atmosphere evident in the trailers is fucking awesome.
 
Stormwatch said:
I just saw the soundtrack listing on BestBuy.com and they did a HORRIBLE job at naming the tracks. Some movies use funny names to try and cover up any spoilers, but they didn't even try. One track is even called
The Killing of Dumbledore
.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9377916&st=harry+potter&type=product&id=1991625
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I burst out laughing at some of those track names.


4. Ginny

10. Book, The

13. School!

27. Friends, The


Those track titles sum up book 6 for me really.
 
Ive heard the soundtrack and I thought that it was awesome. And I didnt like music in the Order, and that was done also by Hooper.
My favourites being Philisophers (the begining, its a very magical soundtrack), and Azkaban (incredible pieces of music, form epic to funny) soundtracks, now also adding this one.

In Noctem is a very beautiful and epic chorus song (that the saga started to need). Another one that I really love, but has not been added to the final cut is Wizard Wheezes, and its really sad, because is one of the most awesome songs of the saga. Remind me of the Giacchino in the Incredibles soundtrack.
 
Stormwatch said:
I just saw the soundtrack listing on BestBuy.com and they did a HORRIBLE job at naming the tracks. Some movies use funny names to try and cover up any spoilers, but they didn't even try. One track is even called
The Killing of Dumbledore
.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9377916&st=harry+potter&type=product&id=1991625
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Wow, tracks 17, 25 and 26 all have spoilers. Well done, as if the Internet hasn't done a good enough job of this "spoiler" business already.

Yeah, I got spoiled on the book. Yeah, I read it as soon as it came out. :(
 
SpacePirate Ridley said:
Ive heard the soundtrack and I thought that it was awesome. And I didnt like music in the Order, and that was done also by Hooper.
My favourites being Philisophers (the begining, its a very magical soundtrack), and Azkaban (incredible pieces of music, form epic to funny) soundtracks, now also adding this one.

In Noctem is a very beautiful and epic chorus song (that the saga started to need). Another one that I really love, but has not been added to the final cut is Wizard Wheezes, and its really sad, because is one of the most awesome songs of the saga. Remind me of the Giacchino in the Incredibles soundtrack.
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In Noctem isn't in the film, Hooper said that Yates had an idea that the Death Eaters would penetrate Hogwarts at the end while the choir practices that song, but it was eventually scrapped, but that it was going to be in the end credits.
 
blah141 said:
So i was thinking, in the last movie (2nd part), will they show anything concerning the prologue?

I might walk out of the theater if they put it on film :S
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I don't see why not. At this point it really won't be difficult for the actors to pull off being 30-somethings. A bit of makeup, etc.

Crap, Draco Malfoy doesn't even need any :p
 
brandonh83 said:
In Noctem isn't in the film, Hooper said that Yates had an idea that the Death Eaters would penetrate Hogwarts at the end while the choir practices that song, but it was eventually scrapped, but that it was going to be in the end credits.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Well, at least is on the credits.
I hope also to hear Wizard Wheezes in the DVD-Bluray version, even in the menu.

Well, the best two themes are scrapped of the film, its good that the rest of the score is also good.
 
Maybe since
Horcruxes
are one of the central themes of the final book, they might talk about the origins of them and include the Gaunts in the final book? I mean they have 2 films to do it in ;p
 
Dabookerman said:
Maybe since
Horcruxes
are one of the central themes of the final book, they might talk about the origins of them and include the Gaunts in the final book? I mean they have 2 films to do it in ;p
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Don't count on it! I don't think they need to be included, and I'm sure Steve Kloves has a proper gameplan when it comes to the Horcruxes, I mean he is scripting the final films and probably understands what's important just like we do, I don't think he's going to omit things so crucial to the story that it doesn't make sense.

That said, I'm curious to see how he handles it.
 
Hve been reading much about the cut in the final confrontation.
Thinking of it, it makes sense, as they have to
"remake" a similar, but much bigger scene, at the end of Deathly Hollows
If that's it, I think they did the right choice.
 
SpacePirate Ridley said:
Hve been reading much about the cut in the final confrontation.
Thinking of it, it makes sense, as they have to
"remake" a similar, but much bigger scene, at the end of Deathly Hollows
If that's it, I think they did the right choice.
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Yep, I figured this much after reading the last book.
In the movie, Dumbledore dies, the Death Eaters flee with Draco, Harry chases them as they leave Hogwarts and Bellatrix destroys shit on the way out, it may not be the battle that was in the book but they're going to make the Battle of Hogwarts anyway, so it would feel kind of pointless this this time
 
brandonh83 said:
Don't count on it! I don't think they need to be included, and I'm sure Steve Kloves has a proper gameplan when it comes to the Horcruxes, I mean he is scripting the final films and probably understands what's important just like we do, I don't think he's going to omit things so crucial to the story that it doesn't make sense.

That said, I'm curious to see how he handles it.
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Of course, and I believe they will do a good job of it. They already made a good decision with splitting the final film in two. It's massive.
Just would have liked to have seen the Gaunts, I thought they were interesting in the books.
Really looking forward to it actually, it will be the most different yet. Should be fun.
 
Dabookerman said:
Of course, and I believe they will do a good job of it. They already made a good decision with splitting the final film in two. It's massive.
Just would have liked to have seen the Gaunts, I thought they were interesting in the books.
Really looking forward to it actually, it will be the most different yet. Should be fun.
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Yeah, I would have liked to have seen them too, because mainly of the setting and how... interesting they are. I loved the Gaunt stuff in the book and I was hoping it wouldn't be cut. But at the same time a lot of critics are saying that this one has time to breathe and is more inviting due to the longer run time than Order of the Phoenix. So even with the Gaunts cut out and some of the memories gone, it's still a really long movie and with that stuff it would have ended up being around 2 hours and 45 minutes if not more :lol

I would have loved to see Tom Riddle Sr. though and more of their family, but as usual the movie is probably going to be so fucking good that I end up not giving a shit at all.
 
brandonh83 said:
Yeah, I would have liked to have seen them too, because mainly of the setting and how... interesting they are. I loved the Gaunt stuff in the book and I was hoping it wouldn't be cut. But at the same time a lot of critics are saying that this one has time to breathe and is more inviting due to the longer run time than Order of the Phoenix. So even with the Gaunts cut out and some of the memories gone, it's still a really long movie and with that stuff it would have ended up being around 2 hours and 45 minutes if not more :lol

I would have loved to see Tom Riddle Sr. though and more of their family, but as usual the movie is probably going to be so fucking good that I end up not giving a shit at all.
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Amen Browski.
 
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