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ROTTENWATCH: Spider-Man 3

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Solo said:
I still can't fathom why people think POTC3 will destroy the box office. Its longer, meaning fewer showtimes, Spidey and 28 Weeks Later are still in theatres, and Shrek 3 is about to take over the box office, and has no hype.
I really think Shrek is going to bomb hard. The hype and marketing was so little that I think people aren't expecting it.
 
ninj4junpei said:
Amen. I wanted to basically die at that point.

Edit: Were there really scenes like that in the first two?

I remember Spiderman 2 being advertised for 4th of July weekend or something, and yeah, they pretty much associated Spiderman with America. I hated that part in the movie, btw. The entire audience at both screenings that I went to groaned and laughed.
 
Spider-Man 3 will do well, don't get why people can even think it will not reach $300million. I highly doubt kids/teens care or even think the movie sucks. Just like with Pirates 2.
 
ninj4junpei said:
Amen. I wanted to basically die at that point.

Edit: Were there really scenes like that in the first two?

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Love it.

Now I have one more reason to love it.
 
KGKK said:
Spider-Man 3 will do well, don't get why people can even think it will not reach $300million. I highly doubt kids/teens care or even think the movie sucks. Just like with Pirates 2.

I cant imagine anyone thinks it won't make 300 million, but 350 seems completely out of the question now. It's second Friday was less than Pirates 2's first Monday. Yeah, that bad.

beelzebozo said:
In twenty years we'll all be watching sam raimi's a&e biography, and he'll admit this was a big joke. he's really not this incompetent a filmmaker, and i am frankly befuddled as to what happened. the studio must have had their hand pretty deep in this pie.

Couldn't be any more right. Sam's a great filmmaker.. there must have been forces at work that caused such a talented guy to make such a trainwreck.
 
The Wispy Scoundrel said:
I'm pretty fuc'kin sure that flag bit was tongue in cheek.
Honestly now.



Maybe I'm just speaking for myself, but after the third viewing it holds up pretty well. I was disappointed at first but when you take it for what it is, a summer action blockbuster, think yourself lucky it wasn't any worse. Raimi obviously had Producers making him do certain things, there are always creative differences between Directors and Producers. Its to be expected. Atleast we got his oddball humour intact and some great action scenes.
It could of been so much worse, seriously. We may of got a step down from Spider-Man 2, but that was almost impossibly high to live up to anyways.
See it again with lower expectations and you might be pleasantly surprised. I was. I even enjoyed it.

It feels good to know that you enjoyed the movie that you payed to see because of your lack of/lowering of expectations...

*pic of Harry winking over his shoulder*

...that's for most've you "GAFilmElites" (GAFE's) ;)
 
I just came back from this movie. Dear god, what did they do to the quality and acting that was found in Spider-Man 2? I feel so dirty for actually having paid money to see this film. The beginning was alright, but as the movie went on it started a slow build of utter cheese, culminating in the American flag moneyshot. I had my face in my hands, shaking it back and forth the entire time.
And the jazz bar scene! Somebody gouge my eyes!

Not nearly enough Venom, either. Horrible, horrible effort all around, excluding the Jameson scenes. Ugh.
 
I liked it.

I thought the movie was great until they defeated the entire character buildup of
Harry's revenge and somehow he ends up a good guy
. The last 10 minutes were a trainwreck and turned a really great movie into a pretty good movie.
 
People not seeing Shrek 3 Hype/Commericals......

guess what. Because they aren't shown on channels we watch! Shrek isn't like pixar where there is a lot of adult appeal and excitement. Shrek commericals are all over kiddie stuff like CN, Nick, kids WB...etc

Shrek 3 will make no less than 90 million opening weekend.
 
Meier said:
Couldn't be any more right. Sam's a great filmmaker.. there must have been forces at work that caused such a talented guy to make such a trainwreck.

Haven't followed this thread much, eh? Yeah, there were forces at work. Avi Arad and the Sony brass stepped in and forced a number of things on Sam.
 
Good
the plot was pretty decent
awesome CG effects, probab
Bad
WTF was with so many Parker scenes
Venom didn't refer to himself as "we"
Sandman seems to be Godlike and then the terrible back story WHY
Spiderman team-up
 
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/

#1 Spidey Has Red Hot Wkd: $60M U.S. & $85M Intl But No Record. Globally $622M!

SUNDAY AM: This weekend, Sony's Webbed Wonder was red hot at the box office if not in the record books, earning $60 million in North America its second weekend out from 4,252 theaters, still the widest U.S. release ever in film history. No, that gross didn't set a precedent.

But approximately 10 days after its debut, Spider-Man 3 ticket sales are far out-pacing the 2002 performance of the original Spider-Man and its 2004 sequel -- SM1 was at $223M after week 2 and SM2 was at $225M. Like other contemporary mega franchises, the threequel's second week drop of 60% -- to be expected after last weekend's nearly round-the-clock screenings -- is in line with the kind of decline experienced by Pirates of the Carribean 2 in its 2nd weekend at the box office. "Gravity does take a hold to some degree in the second week as the movie settles back into a more predictable box office pattern of solid returns," a Sony spokesman says. For comparison purposes, P2 took in $64 million its second weekend out, or down -52% from its phenomenal opening. SM3 earned $17 million Friday (-72%) and $25.1 mil Saturday (-51%) and a projected $18 mil Sunday.

Spidey's new domestic cume is a lightning-fast $242 million. Internationally, the pic did $85.5 mil for a giant new cume of $380 mil. That means worldwide Spider-Man 3 has made $622 mil. So it's certain the threequel will race by previous Spider-Mans with the biggest being the original at $821 mil globally. Meanwhile, there's great news for DreamWorkds Animation's upcoming blockbuster Shrek The Third which opens next weekend: obvious pent-up demand at the box office for a 'toon. That's because Disney's Meet The Robinsons jumped into 9th place even after 7 weeks out.

As for this Friday through Sunday, the Spidey alternative was Fox Atomic's London zombie pic 28 Weeks Later which at No. 2 did slightly less than the low teens experts predicted: it had a $9.5 million opening weekend. And the critics panned #3 Morgan Creek / Universal's Georgia Rule, but even the combined star wattage of Lindsay Lohan, Felicity Huffman and Jane Fonda couldn't help it debut better than only $5.9 mil from 3,106 playdates. Meanwhile, Tobey Maguire and the gang sucked the air out of the rest of this weekend's B.O.: Top 10 is here.
 
There was no way this weekend wasnt going to be a huge drop. How can you not have a 60% drop from a frikkin' $150M weekend? $60M second weekend is still stellar.
 
MindCollizion said:
I remember Spiderman 2 being advertised for 4th of July weekend or something, and yeah, they pretty much associated Spiderman with America. I hated that part in the movie, btw. The entire audience at both screenings that I went to groaned and laughed.
You have a problem with the american flag and america?
 
2nd Week Records

1 Shrek 2 $72,170,363 (Drop 33.2%)
2 Spider-Man $71,417,527 (Drop 37.8%)
3 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest $62,345,264 (Drop 54%)
4 Spider-Man 3 $60,000,000 (Drop 60.3%)
 
Saoh said:
Nop. the movie is a disgrace :) .

I think because I went in basically knowing the thing was going to be a farce, I honestly had a really fun time watching it.
 
tedtropy said:
I think because I went in basically knowing the thing was going to be a farce, I honestly had a really fun time watching it.

i wasn't supposed to laugh at non-comedy scenes :(
 
ant1532 said:
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Pirates Movies > Spider-Man Movies


Listen, I like you. I do. I tend to agree with you, as well.

But here, good sir, you are wrong. Pirates is quality stuff, Depp is Sparrow is great, but on a whole.... Spider-Man Franchise >>>> Pirates.

Annnd...
Natalie Portman > Keira Knightly
 
What a terrible movie, it was full of soap opera cliches (amnesia, betrayal, backstabbing, revenge, etc), I felt like I was watching an episode of Days of Our Lives. It's ok to be a dumb action film, but whatever Spider-Man 3 was, it was definitely bad.
 
I think it's amazing that now Avi Arad is the villain in all of this when he is the main man responsible for thie renaissance in comic films.

irfan said:
2nd Week Records

1 Shrek 2 $72,170,363 (Drop 33.2%)
2 Spider-Man $71,417,527 (Drop 37.8%)
3 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest $62,345,264 (Drop 54%)
4 Spider-Man 3 $60,000,000 (Drop 60.3%)

How is that bad in any way? It's still made a ton of money.
 
Zalasta said:
What a terrible movie, it was full of soap opera cliches (amnesia, betrayal, backstabbing, revenge, etc)

My favorite thing people do is list things they didn't like about the movie, when all those things were part of the comics at some point.
 
shantyman said:
I think it's amazing that now Avi Arad is the villain in all of this when he is the main man responsible for thie renaissance in comic films.



How is that bad in any way? It's still made a ton of money.

It's bad in the sense that it means the movie won't have long legs at the box office, but you're right, it still made a ton of money. However, any movie that drops of that much, percentage wise, in it's second week, means that word of mouth is working against it. Make no mistake, Spidey 3 is making a ton of cash, and will probably generate another sequel, even if the cast and crew of this one move on, but when ever a movie takes a nose dive like that at the box office, the executives start to wonder what went wrong.

In this case though, the movie is still a colossal success. Sony is going to make a huge proft, but it appears to be doing so on the strength of the first two movies and the huge momentum that the hype for part 3 built up. A 60% drop in ticket sales means that the movie is likely seen as a disappointment by viewers as word spreads about it's quality.

All that said, I don't think it's as bad of a film as some here would lead you to believe. It's not as good as the first two, and it's certainly the victim of hype, but still a decent Summer action movie despite the missteps here and there.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
It's bad in the sense that it means the movie won't have long legs at the box office, but you're right, it still made a ton of money. However, any movie that drops of that much, percentage wise, in it's second week, means that word of mouth is working against it. Make no mistake, Spidey 3 is making a ton of cash, and will probably generate another sequel, even if the cast and crew of this one move on, but when ever a movie takes a nose dive like that at the box office, the executives start to wonder what went wrong.

In this case though, the movie is still a colossal success. Sony is going to make a huge proft, but it appears to be doing so on the strength of the first two movies and the huge momentum that the hype for part 3 built up. A 60% drop in ticket sales means that the movie is likely seen as a disappointment by viewers as word spreads about it's quality.

All that said, I don't think it's as bad of a film as some here would lead you to believe. It's not as good as the first two, and it's certainly the victim of hype, but still a decent Summer action movie despite the missteps here and there.
While I agree with you, did anybody expect the movie to pull in another $70-80 million? I mean $151 million is a lot of money and a lot of people went and saw it. You'll have quite a few who will go to two or three showings and that, arguably, propells the box office totals of summer movies quite a bit. But, when a movie does that much business in one week, a vast amount of the audience will have seen the movie. So a sharp decline is expected.
 
omg rite said:
My favorite thing people do is list things they didn't like about the movie, when all those things were part of the comics at some point.

And that means to me? Nothing.

My post was not a comparison between the movie adaptation of the comic, and frankly, I don't even read the comics.

Spider-Man 3 was a terrible film, period. Bad pacing, horribly plotted, people doing things that just don't make much sense. Even the one thing that the two previous movies in the series did right, which is the action, was mediocre at best. I don't know what more reasons I should give for not enjoying it. Just because "these things" were part of the comics does not justify them for being in the movie.
 
JdFoX187 said:
While I agree with you, did anybody expect the movie to pull in another $70-80 million? I mean $151 million is a lot of money and a lot of people went and saw it. You'll have quite a few who will go to two or three showings and that, arguably, propells the box office totals of summer movies quite a bit. But, when a movie does that much business in one week, a vast amount of the audience will have seen the movie. So a sharp decline is expected.

Too a certain degree you are right, but at 35-40% drop is more of what is expected on a film like this. Look at the percentage of drop off on those other big films that were posted earlier and you'll see what I mean.

You also have to look at the competition that comes out in Week 2 of a film as well. SM3 had nothing come out this week to really cannablize ticket sales, and it is showing in more theaters than any movie ever.
 
Finally saw this last night and....wow. They really ****ed up a great series. It's just mind numbing to me that this film was handled by the same director. The list of stuff that's wrong with it is numerous to list and has probably been touched upon several times over in this thread. But I just had to chime in and proclaim how amazingly disappointing this film is. Stunnigly bad.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
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Love it.

Now I have one more reason to love it.
what is the one more reason? Also, what is it about it that makes you love it?
 
Working at a theater and watching this thing on my lunch breaks, I'm starting to realize how much I love this movie. I mean, it's worse than the other two and sort of ruined the series, especially the Harry plot, but the dumb humor is so awesome. It's enjoyable as hell.



P.S. What does "I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye" mean?
 
Spider-Man 3 is fun in a Superman III kind of way.

It's OK if you're going in with the mindset of it being silly and over-the-top.

If you're expecting something as even-keeled and consistent as Spider-Man 1 or 2, then you'll be let down.
 
temp said:
What was the point of the amnesia, anyway? I still don't understand what that added.

So he could do "the Twist" with MJ while making eggs.

Seriously I think it was primarily (plot-wise) to make the audience think that MJ would cheat on Peter with Harry while Peter was getting closer to Gwen ... which obviously couldn't happen if he was still evil Harry.

Of course this all paid off with the hillarious evil Harry blackmailing MJ thing; capped off with the pie eating scene ("it's so good") :lol
 
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