polyh3dron
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All she knows is how to be subservient whether it's to her mother or to Dr. Manhattan.BenjaminBirdie said:
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Rottenwatch: WATCHMEN
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BenjaminBirdie
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JayDubya said:
It's another instance, though if something working in one medium better than another. The quotes from that song appear in black boxes as end beats to chapters, not playing over an entire scene.
ten5ive9ine
They've got me haunting a family in Texas.
ItsInMyVeins said:
99 starts blasting when Laurie meets Dan in the restaurant. Why?
Oh hey! It's a song about nuclear war. And it's soooo 80s. Bust out those wayfarers and footless tights Laurie. Visionary.
BenjaminBirdie said:
This is a good point. It's far too in your face to have Dan and Walter cruising into Antarctica while they rock out with their cocks out to Hendrix. Final conflict time, bitches!!!
ten5ive9ine
They've got me haunting a family in Texas.
border said:When I think of famous parodies I tend to think of Airplane, Blazing Saddles, Naked Gun, Young Frankenstein, Scary Movie, and Weird Al songs. Something about Watchmen just doesn't have that same vibe
ten5ive9ine said:
BenjaminBirdie
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polyh3dron said:
Are we now working under the assumption that a character needs to be admirable in order to be considered well elucidated by their author?
DevelopmentArrested
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jett said:
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polyh3dron
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No I'm just pointing out that Laurie's character is a bit one dimensional in comparison to the other characters.BenjaminBirdie said:
Big Icarus said:
I am reading the book for the second time now, and the Laurie-Dan romance feels like the most stupid fanboy wank material ever. It's written to indulge even the most ludicrous nerd fantasies.
"Oh look -- the super hot sexy chick broke up with her perfect footballer boyfriend! But you get to comfort her in her time of need. Oh and it turns out that she's interested in all your ridiculous dorky, obsessive hobbies! And she doesn't mind your complete sexual ineptitude!"
Giving the geeks of America this model for romance has resulted in untold thousands of broken hearts, I suspect.
BenjaminBirdie
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polyh3dron said:
She's both literally and figuratively surrounded by wang. She doesn't really have much opportunity to express herself, and she's pretty stunted personality wise, getting into the business as a teenager and then going straight to a sheltered life with Jon. I always found her quite believable.
Freedom = $1.05
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I'm going into this as a "preview" for the director's cut. It worked for the LOTR movies, which I didn't completely like in the theater but loved in their extended editions.
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ten5ive9ine said:
it really sounds like you went in 'knowing' you were going to hate it... were you rolling your eyes at the whole movie?
so now that people are saying laurie was the weakest actor.. she all of a sudden has become one of the most compelling characters in the book? what? :lol
ten5ive9ine
They've got me haunting a family in Texas.
quadriplegicjon said:
When the first shots from the set came out, I thought it looked great, but with each trailer and interview with Snyder that came out, I felt like he had missed the point.
I went into the cinema expecting it to be rubbish, but I also tried to keep my mind open. I wanted to like it.
I think the set and the actors looked great for the most part, but I still felt like the DoP didn't quite do it for me.
Acting wise, Jon and Walter were really good. Laurie and Dan were awful.
Snyder's direction was just so middle-of-the-road blockbuster that I felt the whole film was a wasted opportunity.
Merely replicating comic book frames might have worked for something as shallow as 300, but it's so lack-lustre in this film.
I could waffle on about a tonne of other gripes but I think a large amount of Rotten Tomatoes has done that for me already.
Well, I didn't expect a four star rating from Roger Ebert, check it out:
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090304/REVIEWS/903049997
Movie seems to be pretty polarizing, but I'm excited to watch it. Can;t wait to see the reactions of the people going with me, none of them have read the source material.
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090304/REVIEWS/903049997
Movie seems to be pretty polarizing, but I'm excited to watch it. Can;t wait to see the reactions of the people going with me, none of them have read the source material.
DevelopmentArrested
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Ebert:
"The film is rich enough to be seen more than once. I plan to see it again, this time on IMAX, and will have more to say about it. Im not sure I understood all the nuances and implications, but I am sure I had a powerful experience. Its not as entertaining as The Dark Knight, but like the Matrix films, LOTR and The Dark Knight, its going to inspire fevered analysis. I dont want to see it twice for that reason, however, but mostly just to have the experience again. "
"The film is rich enough to be seen more than once. I plan to see it again, this time on IMAX, and will have more to say about it. Im not sure I understood all the nuances and implications, but I am sure I had a powerful experience. Its not as entertaining as The Dark Knight, but like the Matrix films, LOTR and The Dark Knight, its going to inspire fevered analysis. I dont want to see it twice for that reason, however, but mostly just to have the experience again. "
ten5ive9ine
They've got me haunting a family in Texas.
Masenkame said:
It seems a lot of critics have a hard time divorcing the comic from the film. Outlining the story and judging it on that. I want to read more people's thoughts on the film making techniques.
That's true of both the Ebert review and that poorly written New Yorker review too.
Solo said:
Get drunk, go in a huge crowd. Drink whenever a scene starts with someone swiveling in a chair or dropping a newspaper down to reveal their close-up to the camera.
And then drunkenly ponder how a movie with such cheesy camera work and Nixon's prosthetic nose could honestly think that changing the ending was needed because it's a 'serious' film.
I think it's easy to enjoy the screening.
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Masenkame said:
Same, the crew I'm going with is not versed in Watchmen at all, I barely know myself, save for the few discussions I've seen on GAF to let me know just enough.
One thing I know I got to do is brace for all the laughter and snickering with Synder all to faithful adaptation with it's big blue slong and all.
bggrthnjsus
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i kind of like ebert's review, it seems like he totally detached himself from any debates about conflicts and themes, characters and plots, and just let the experience sink in...which is a perfectly valid way to watch a movie...i wonder what else he'll have to say about it after future viewings.
SpeedingUptoStop
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It's getting to be that reviewers need to note whether or not they've read the book. I can't tell who believes the film stands all on it's own.:lol
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Ebert didn't directly reference the book, not even once. I wonder if he actually did read it and chose to deliberately detach the film experience from it... I doubt it though.
Regardless, it seems like he just really dug the movie itself. Go figure.
Regardless, it seems like he just really dug the movie itself. Go figure.
So what i don't understand: in the movie it's not Rorschach who breaks into Ozy's place to discuss the Comedian's death, but instead Dan visits him. I don't really get why Snyder did this. The only possible reasons are that he thought Rorschach was getting too much screentime, or he wanted to mix up the pacing, not making it a long 'R. visits some old friends' sequence.
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Catalix said:
Ebert's probably one of the best reviewers around. He reviews each film by their own standards. Ie - kids films as kids films, comic movies as comic movies, etc.
He seemed to really enjoy Watchmen though, and he and I have similar tastes (mine, not as refined or as articulated, of course), so now, I'm really excited. I was getting kind of down by all the neg reviews by hardcore comic idiots.
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Masenkame said:
Awesome. Ebert is one of a handful of critics I really respect and pay attention to. I was feeling kind of down about the negative reviews but seeing this really makes me excited for the film again.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Roger Ebert is by far my favorite film critic, and his review made me want to see the film really badly. It's not just the score; his ratings are not what matters. He writes reviews that are entirely detached from his scores, and his review makes me think that I'll really, really like Watchmen.
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DevelopmentArrested
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v1cious said:
that review is garbage
he claims to love the entire movie to death until the last 10 minutes.
Father_Brain
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I want to believe, but for some reason I keep thinking of the 3.5 stars he gave Titan A.E. Has Ebert given any other really weird scores to genre films?
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Darunia said:
didnt both things happen in the comic book? i cant remember.
AgentOtaku
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Yeah I read this earlier and thought it was pretty damn sillyv1cious said:
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quadriplegicjon said:
He made lots of oddball changes and dialogue switches for no reason other than to put his touch on the film.
If you think Rorschach's change of origin is no big deal, then go ahead and enjoy it as a ho-hum action film. Most people obviously won't care and will look at it as a darker comic book adaptation.
It's simple to my mind now: the more I think about the movie, the more I dislike it. I was hoping it would be the opposite.
polyh3dron
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Just when you expect to see Ebert take the biggest shit ever all over a movie, he surprises you. Wow.Masenkame said:
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