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[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

The awesome title sequence in good quality:
http://motionographer.com/theater/yuco-the-watchmen-titles/
Watch it until your eyes bleed.
Cant stop watching it.

So awesome!

 

[AndersTheSwede]

Hallelujah!

I loved it. Yes the pacing was completely broken as it followed much of the comics progression, but really that's the only negative I had against it. It was great.

I went with three other people who hadn't read the comic, and they had no trouble following it.

 

[starchild excalibur]

I just saw it and I gotta say that I was pleasantly surprised. I think a lot of it was due to me coming into it with relatively low expectations after being let down by 300. The acting was mostly well done (although Malin Ackerman was pretty stiff), I agree with everyone about Matthew Goode not being a good choice for Veidt, and I actually think the movie ending was more realistic/easier to swallow than the graphic novel one. Rorschachs Gruffy McGruff voice got tiresome, although I think his acting was solid.

The movie obviously tried to fit as much of the novel into it as possible and even with some omissions such as

Spoiler

the death of Hollis not being mentioned

, it still ran pretty long for a mainstream film. The intro sequence and the background montage of Dr. Manhattan were definitely my favorite sequences, the Philip Glass tracks from Koyaanisqatsi fitting perfectly with the latter. Billy Crudup was probably my favorite actor in the film, his soft voice not being what I imagined Dr. Manhattan would sound like, but nevertheless giving pathos to someone who is - ostensibly - so devoid of it. It was also a somewhat risky choice not to have a cliché, stern masculine voice accompanying such a physically domineering character as the Doc. Definitely the strongest character and actor in the film in my opinion.

:lol @ 300 being terrible and DOTD being "mostly crappy"

:lol at 300 being considered anything but terrible. But if incessant slow-mo, CGI blood, and half naked men shouting histrionics does it for you then whatevs.

300 was terrible, mate

Don't worry, lol smileys are the internet equivalent of putting your hands over your ears and screaming "Nyah Nyah Nyah, I can't hear youuuuu"

 

[GitarooMan]

I liked it, although it was a bit mechanical. The biggest weakness I think was that they didn't really flesh out Ozymandius (and his celebrity and empire) enough before the end.

And I agree the opening credits sequence was awesome.

 

[BamYouHaveAids]

I think 300 is a fun popcorn flick. The movie doesn't try to be anything but a mindless action movie and it works in that regard. It's certainly better than shit like Transformers. DoTD was excellent, though.

 

[Solo]

Are those titles fair game for me to watch having not seen the film yet? Or should I wait?

 

[BamYouHaveAids]

Are those titles fair game for me to watch having not seen the film yet? Or should I wait?

It's the opening credit montage.

 

[Solo]

Alright, just wanted to make sure this wasnt a movie where the credits are 20 minutes into the film or something, and filled with spoilers. If its the very first thing we see, then I guess Ill take a look.

 

[starchild excalibur]

Are those titles fair game for me to watch having not seen the film yet? Or should I wait?

They're fair game, but I think it'd be more impactful if the first time you see it is on the big screen.

I think 300 is a fun popcorn flick. The movie doesn't try to be anything but a mindless action movie and it works in that regard. It's certainly better than shit like Transformers. DoTD was excellent, though.

Obviously people have different opinions, so all i can do is offer up mine. Even going into 300 expecting and wanting nothing more than a mindless action flick with a lot of bad-assery I was let down. Snyder doesn't know when style dominates substance and even for the most brainless action films there has to be a modicum of the latter. In all honesty, what let me down the most about it was the CGI blood. It made all the kills and executions look as fake as the backdrop because none of the blood had any weight to it.

And regarding DotD, well, I just didn't really care for it. But because I wasn't hyped up to see it before hand I guess it just wasn't really a let-down - just a film I was fairly indifferent to.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Are those titles fair game for me to watch having not seen the film yet? Or should I wait?

Wait. One of the best opening montages ever. Don't spoil it for yourself.

 

[Solo]

Alright, thanks guys. I can wait 2-3 days.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Alright, thanks guys. I can wait 2-3 days.

Yep. Don't see it unless you've seen the movie

 

[AndersTheSwede]

I actually didn't much like the Dr Manhattan back story scene. It lost so much detail from what was in the comic (which IMO is the best chapter) that is really kinda fell flat. It was serviceable, but I was still a little disappointed in it, and it certainly wasn't my favorite scene in the movie.

I love how outright shocking the movie can be. Right from the title sequence with Kennedy getting his head blown apart, and the hippies getting massacred, to the buzz saw and the child's leg and the cleaver. I have a pretty high threshold for this stuff, but there were parts where I couldn't help looking away or getting the chills.

And then the movie would cut to a blue penis. Animated with the correct floppy penis physics and all. :lol

Really it's a pretty fantastic film. A two hour and forty five minute celebration of one the greatest comic books ever.

 

[Rahxephon91]

Movie was simply awesome.

Spoiler

Question the guy in the hospital who is wrapped up like a mummy and is shown after Dan and Laurie have sex, is that Hollis?

Anyway I was just awestruck during the entire thing. Its really a movie that you have to pay attention to and I like it.

The ending was fine sure I miss the books ending but it still works. This movie only touches the depth of the book but I can't fault it for that because its 1 3 hour movie and it did as good as it could.

 

[AndersTheSwede]

Spoiler

Question the guy in the hospital who is wrapped up like a mummy and is shown after Dan and Laurie have sex, is that Hollis?

Spoiler

It's the dude Rorschach dumped the cooking oil on.

 

[Ventrue]

The awesome title sequence in good quality:
http://motionographer.com/theater/yuco-the-watchmen-titles/
Watch it until your eyes bleed.
Cant stop watching it.

Any idea why this won't play for me?

 

[YYZ]

Any idea why this won't play for me?

It's Quick Time?


People saying that Rorschach was perfect in this movie, what about

Spoiler

the lack of fire when he killed the child-kidnapper?

 

[LCfiner]

Any idea why this won't play for me?

it's quicktime. do you have that installed?

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

Any idea why this won't play for me?

Had problems with firefox, played and stop all the time. Work great with explorer.
However with the two I dont know why but I cant see any buttons, only a black bar, however you can activate them. If you touch a point nearly to the left of the bar (not actually all the left, as that is the volume button), were is supposed to be the play button, it will work.

 

[Ventrue]

Had problems with firefox, played and stop all the time. Work great with explorer.
However with the two I dont know why but I cant see any buttons, only a black bar, however you can activate them. If you touch a point nearly to the left of the bar (not actually all the left, as that is the volume button), were is supposed to be the play button, it will work.

I got it working with IE, thanks. I guess I have a lot of problems with FF and Quicktime for some reason. I loved the opening titles.

 

[Solideliquid]

I'll point it out to you before someone else does. The characters aren't "Watchmen" in the comic, which I think was a major no-no in the movie.

I thought the characters were the watchmen? Who are these watchmen then?

 

[Kingpen]

I just got done seeing it. I know nothing about the graphic novel or had any exposure to this...


I left feeling rather 'Meh' after watching it. I think a different job of pacing might have helped someone like me out... I only come from judging it off of other comic book movies and graphic novel adaptions. In terms of R rated graphic novel adaptions, 300 and Sin City do a whole lot more for me then this...

I'm probably out of the demographic that this movie targeted though...

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I thought the characters were the watchmen? Who are these watchmen then?

The movie is just called WATCHMEN. As in the concept of guards.

 

[StoOgE]

Haven't seen Watchmen yet (Monday or Tuesday for me), but I've seen his other two films, and I must say:

wat

300 was terrible and DotD was better, but still mostly crappy. I assume by calling him "AAA", youre lumping him in with the Spielbergs, Scorseses, Malicks, etc. of the film world, which is a major disservice to those guys.

I like Snyders films, I was talking more like a AAA director from a money making standpoint. A big part of the marketing of this movie was Snyder himself.

 

[Xater]

I thought the characters were the watchmen? Who are these watchmen then?

They never called themselves "Watchmen" in the comic. The team that they were part of were the Crimebusters I think. Some one help me out here I don't remeber it. I am only 100% sure tha tthe old team was the Minutemen.

 

[Flynn]

She's seriously not that bad, I think it's just that so many people are dumping so much hate on to her that it's affecting your opinion. I went in expecting her performance to shit up the whole movie and it really didn't. She was acting exactly the way I expected Silk Spectre II to act.

I'm sorry, but I can identify bad acting without being told about it in advance. She straight up sucked. If anything I went into the picture thinking, 'how bad could she possibly be?' and was surprised to learn that my imagination wasn't up to the task.

 

[polyh3dron]

I thought the characters were the watchmen? Who are these watchmen then?

It's part of the phrase "Who watches the watchmen" that pops up in graffiti in protest of the team that called themselves the Crimebusters. It's basically saying that while they're here to watch over us, who is watching over them?

Basically, saying "Who watches the watchmen" was probably more of a resonant statement than "Who watches the Crimebusters".

 

[Solideliquid]

I'll point it out to you before someone else does. The characters aren't "Watchmen" in the comic, which I think was a major no-no in the movie.

This douch felt it necessary to "point it out to me" that his personal opinion was fact. Though it's not wrong to think of the characters as watchmen, since even though they did not themselves use this label, society does.

 

[Flynn]

This douch felt it necessary to "point it out to me" that his personal opinion was fact. Though it's not wrong to think of the characters as watchmen, since even though they did not themselves use this label, society does.

Do you call the conflict between the Empire and the Rebellion Alliance "The Star Wars?"

 

[polyh3dron]

I'll point it out to you before someone else does. The characters aren't "Watchmen" in the comic, which I think was a major no-no in the movie.

Oh come on, you know that if they didn't call themselves the Watchmen people would be all like "but who ARE the Watchmen? There's the Minutemen and Crimebusters but I never saw any Watchmen, and yet I saw graffiti on the wall about them.. I'm so confused! Why even call the movie Watchmen at all! What a stupid movie lolololol"

 

[Deku]

I actually didn't much like the Dr Manhattan back story scene. It lost so much detail from what was in the comic (which IMO is the best chapter) that is really kinda fell flat. It was serviceable, but I was still a little disappointed in it, and it certainly wasn't my favorite scene in the movie.

I love how outright shocking the movie can be. Right from the title sequence with Kennedy getting his head blown apart, and the hippies getting massacred, to the buzz saw and the child's leg and the cleaver. I have a pretty high threshold for this stuff, but there were parts where I couldn't help looking away or getting the chills.

And then the movie would cut to a blue penis. Animated with the correct floppy penis physics and all. :lol

Really it's a pretty fantastic film. A two hour and forty five minute celebration of one the greatest comic books ever.

The opening re imagines history as it diverges from our reality into the Watchmen reality.

My concern is that people are going to walk out of the movie thinking hippies were really shot at like that (the scene of the girl putting a flower into the MP's muzzle really did happen, but she wants shot for it, for example)

Understanding the world of the Watchmen requires the application of a good understanding of our real history to tease out what is Watchmen history and what is based on our own.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Any idea why this won't play for me?

Video is down. Go here:
http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/flashvideo/watchmen-opening-titles.swf
Oh and do try to save the video and upload elsewhere since this will be taken down too!

Oh and OMGG!! The amount of easter eggs in the very first shot!

1. You see BATMAN poster in the back
2. The location is "Gotham Opera House"
3. The people in the back look like Mr. and Mrs. Wayne, and Alfred!
4. From the looks of it, the guy Nite Owl is fighting was meant to kill the couple.

MIND BLOWN!!!

 

[WyndhamPrice]

Video is down. Go here:
http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/flashvideo/watchmen-opening-titles.swf
Oh and do try to save the video and upload elsewhere since this will be taken down too!

Oh and OMGG!! The amount of easter eggs in the very first shot!

1. You see BATMAN poster in the back
2. The location is "Gotham Opera House"
3. The people in the back look like Mr. and Mrs. Wayne, and Alfred!
4. From the looks of it, the guy Nite Owl is fighting was meant to kill the couple.

MIND BLOWN!!!

Wow.

 

[Corwood Rep]

I didn't like this movie, but holy fuck at that title sequence.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

This douch felt it necessary to "point it out to me" that his personal opinion was fact. Though it's not wrong to think of the characters as watchmen, since even though they did not themselves use this label, society does.

Don't call him a douche when you still don't seem to understand. The title 'Watchmen' is like saying guards, society doesn't actually recognise a group called 'Watchmen', they recognise a group of vigilantes who have been appointed to guard them. Watchmen is a blanket term, where others might call them masks, guards, guardians, protectors, security, some might refer to them as Watchmen. The reason that this title has received prominence in the movie/novel is because Alan Moore based the idea from the philosophical musing of Socrates which translates to 'Who watches the watchmen?'.

Allow wiki to show you the way:

The essential problem was posed by Plato in the Republic, his work on government and morality. The perfect society as described by Socrates, the main character of the work (see Socratic dialogue), relies on laborers, slaves and tradesmen. The guardian class is to protect the city. The question is put to Socrates, "Who will guard the guardians?" or, "Who will protect us against the protectors?" Plato's answer to this is that they will guard themselves against themselves. We must tell the guardians a "noble lie." The noble lie will inform them that they are better than those they serve and it is therefore their responsibility to guard and protect those lesser than themselves. We will instill in them a distaste for power or privilege; they will rule because they believe it right, not because they desire it.

 

[starchild excalibur]

Video is down. Go here:
http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/flashvideo/watchmen-opening-titles.swf
Oh and do try to save the video and upload elsewhere since this will be taken down too!

Oh and OMGG!! The amount of easter eggs in the very first shot!

1. You see BATMAN poster in the back
2. The location is "Gotham Opera House"
3. The people in the back look like Mr. and Mrs. Wayne, and Alfred!
4. From the looks of it, the guy Nite Owl is fighting was meant to kill the couple.

MIND BLOWN!!!

That's very astute of you. It's a minor nitpick, but I think what would sell it more is if the Batman posters weren't in the background as, if Mr and Mrs Wayne were saved that night then Batman wouldn't exist.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

I saw it last night and I thought it was excellent. It's definitely a near prerequisite to read the graphic novel first, however.

The only thing I didn't really like was

Spoiler

the sex scene on Archie. Yeah, Malin is smokin' hot, but the scene felt utterly devoid of tenderness and was totally just lustful. It felt pornographic to me, despite the Hallelujah music going on. I would have liked to have seen that done a tad more tastefully.

Also, I felt that it would have been better had Rorscach's death remain unwitnessed by Nite Owl.

 

[bistromathics]

I went in hopeful and came out disappointed. Seemed like it was pretty good for a while, but I think I was just reacting to the very awesome action sequences. I was willing to let a lot of things slide and call it an alright film, but I got really annoyed when

Spoiler

Dan guesses Veidt's password. Really? Smartest man in the world chooses Ramses II as his password? When his fucking pseudonym is Ozymandias? REALLY?

. Seems like a nitpick and I don't know why it bothered me so much, but it definitely changed the way I watched the rest of the movie; from then on I think I was actually looking for more things to dislike. That's a shame.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I went in hopeful and came out disappointed. Seemed like it was pretty good for a while, but I think I was just reacting to the very awesome action sequences. I was willing to let a lot of things slide and call it an alright film, but I got really annoyed when

Spoiler

Dan guesses Veidt's password. Really? Smartest man in the world chooses Ramses II as his password? When his fucking pseudonym is Ozymandias? REALLY?

. Seems like a nitpick and I don't know why it bothered me so much, but it definitely changed the way I watched the rest of the movie; from then on I think I was actually looking for more things to dislike. That's a shame.

Didn't he see the spine of one of the books on Veidt's bookshelf which clued him.

 

[Solideliquid]

Don't call him a douche when you still don't seem to understand. The title 'Watchmen' is like saying guards, society doesn't actually recognise a group called 'Watchmen', they recognise a group of vigilantes who have been appointed to guard them. Watchmen is a blanket term, where others might call them masks, guards, guardians, protectors, security, some might refer to them as Watchmen. The reason that this title has received prominence in the movie/novel is because Alan Moore based the idea from the philosophical musing of Socrates which translates to 'Who watches the watchmen?'.

Allow wiki to show you the way:

OK - I DO UNDERSTAND the fucking concept. Even though "superhero characters" in the movie aka John, The Comedian, etc., don't refer to themselves as "The Watchmen", it is still appropriate to refer to them as such when discussing them as a group. That's all.

BTW I have to say, your avatar fucking rocks.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

That's very astute of you. It's a minor nitpick, but I think what would sell it more is if the Batman posters weren't in the background as, if Mr and Mrs Wayne were saved that night then Batman wouldn't exist.

True, but I guess they had to make it a LITTLE obvious what's happening in the scene. I think the message they are giving is exactly what you are looking for: Nite Owl prevented batman's existence.

 

[bistromathics]

Didn't he see the spine of one of the books on Veidt's bookshelf which clued him.

Yes, and that makes it even worse...

edit (clarification):

Spoiler

Ozymandias is another name for Ramses II. The smartest man in the world should be able to pick a password more secure than his own name!

I seriously don't know why that was even in the film - I sure don't remember it from the book, and it was such a minor detail. How did they find out

Spoiler

Veidt was in Antarctica in the book? I can't remember, but I sure hope it wasn't by Night Owl guessing his password :\

 

[B.K.]

My sister went and saw it last night. I haven't seen it yet, so I asked her what she though. She said she wasn't impressed with it. It wasn't very good. I don't know if I should listen to her or not. This is the same person that didn't like The Dark Knight and is wild about Twilight.

 

[Wario64]

My sister went and saw it last night. I haven't seen it yet, so I asked her what she though. She said she wasn't impressed with it. It wasn't very good. I don't know if I should listen to her or not. This is the same person that didn't like The Dark Knight and is wild about Twilight.

I dunno, did you hate Dark Knight and liked Twilight as well? :lol

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

My sister went and saw it last night. I haven't seen it yet, so I asked her what she though. She said she wasn't impressed with it. It wasn't very good. I don't know if I should listen to her or not. This is the same person that didn't like The Dark Knight and is wild about Twilight.

Don't listen to her. It's not a girl's movie.

 

[Guzim]

This is the same person that didn't like The Dark Knight.

What?!?!

 

[joey_z]

Alright, so I just saw the movie. Thought it was great, but it just comes crashing in the last part.

Why the fuck

Spoiler

could they not have Dr. Manhattan say the line 'nothing ever ends' to Veidt like he did in the graphic novel? Surely it's one of if not the most thought provoking moments in the graphic novel. How would that have changed anything even with the squid removed?

And why the fuck

Spoiler

did Night Owl and Spectre have to run away like bitches after Dan rages out? There was a lot of impact in the fact that those two stayed and tried to understand what had happened and how they could, if at all, come to terms with it. Not only that but, the scene next to the pool was quite powerful.

Also, the movie as anyone would have noticed was high in gore. But hey, for some reason Snyder decided it would be a good idea to not show off the imagery of all the dead people in Manhattan. The moment the viewer was supposed to really understand what had happened and how severe the devastation was just seemed to be omitted. Far too many liberties taken with the end.

Edit: Have to mention: Billy Crudup was awesome. I didn't have much faith in him after I saw the trailers but he really was phenomenal to see. Especially his little epiphany moment. Well done. And Haley was awesome as expected.

 

[george_us]

Spoiler

not really he almost cries in the movie in the GN he's gangsta and just screams 'do it!'. I always imagined roschach to have a monotone weirdo voice...I didnt think he'd sound like christian bale

Spoiler

He cries in the graphic novel.

 

[Flynn]

Don't listen to her. It's not a girl's movie.

That's asinine.

 

[joey_z]

Don't listen to her. It's not a girl's movie.

huh?