FUNKNOWN iXi
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Dead Space 1 was phenomenal. One of my favorite games of all time.
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RttP Dead Space 1: Why can't RE ever be this good?
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Stallion Dan
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It's an action game with a horror skin.
That shit needs stay away from RE.
Right, because their completely linear action games with no puzzles (lets be real) and no real resource management (again, lets be real) and waves of enemies thrown at you whenever you fix or fetch something is totally what the great RE games are about.
That shit needs stay away from RE.
Right, because their completely linear action games with no puzzles (lets be real) and no real resource management (again, lets be real) and waves of enemies thrown at you whenever you fix or fetch something is totally what the great RE games are about.
JudgmentJay
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I'm currently playing through the series for the first time. I finished Dead Space 1 last week and I'm nearing the end of 2. I'm really, really enjoying them. As everyone's said, the atmosphere is fantastic, and the limb-cutting mechanic is so satisfying. Oh, and I love that the HUD is on your suit/guns. Genius. And I've gotta say, for being slightly dated from a technical standpoint the games look fantastic running at 4k 60fps on a 65" TV. There have been several times where I was taken aback at how good the second game looks.
It's hard to say which one I like more. I like the Alien/Aliens comparison. Both great, but in different ways. I don't think I'll be playing 3 though as I don't have Origin and have no interest in installing it for one game. I probably would if it didn't have such a luke-warm reception.
It's hard to say which one I like more. I like the Alien/Aliens comparison. Both great, but in different ways. I don't think I'll be playing 3 though as I don't have Origin and have no interest in installing it for one game. I probably would if it didn't have such a luke-warm reception.
JimmyRustler
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And streamlined it.... Which is why it's worse for me. DS1 is the best RE4 clone ever made. Can't gelieve hoe much potential the series had and how much EAs greed ruined it.
Alpha Phoenix
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I prefer the Dead Space games to any RE in recent memory. I would have gladly taken a Dead Space 4 instead of that Hardline whatever thing Visceral shelled out this year.
BossDarkseid
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I loved it. Never found it that scary but the overall flow was amazing. Fucking EA..
Aw GAF, now i want to replay it.
Aw GAF, now i want to replay it.
industrian
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DS1 is one of my favourite games from last gen. It works so well as an action horror game. One of the reasons why Dead Space 1 "worked" for me was because it actually felt like you were on a spaceship. There was a definite adventure game feeling to it. When revisiting old areas you saw how the corruption was spreading. That and everything - from the graphics, the minimalist presentation, and the incredible sound design - was on point.
But then Dead Space 2 took this and made a one-way corridor action game. Dead Space 3... whatever.
But then Dead Space 2 took this and made a one-way corridor action game. Dead Space 3... whatever.
nkarafo
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Yup, love it more than RE4 myself too. Maybe because i love this whole space-horror theme. Ever since Doom introduced the concept of Hell + space to me. I became a fan of things like System Shock 2 and even that mediocre-ish Event Horizon movie. Dead space felt exactly like this movie and i freaking love it.
There is something really eerie and terrifying about space already. The infinite scale, the emptiness, the fact that you are so away from home, the harshest environmental conditions... Adding extra horror elements to it makes it even better, especially supernatural elements. The contrast between science and supernatural is so great.
There is something really eerie and terrifying about space already. The infinite scale, the emptiness, the fact that you are so away from home, the harshest environmental conditions... Adding extra horror elements to it makes it even better, especially supernatural elements. The contrast between science and supernatural is so great.
Same thing you could said about RE5 and RE6
Astral Dog
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The path from the atmospheric DS 1 to mediocre shooting DS 3 was painful to me, and now the series is, well dead.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Ironically I was just replaying through Dead Space 1 myself. Honestly speaking, it's a good game, but I personally have never really found it scary, and I think it suffers from a sort of tedium the sequel fixes. I think there's some nice little touches, I agree there, but I think what takes a lot from the first Dead Space from me is this sort of rhythm the game has. I can't quite put my finger on how to explain it, but while the game isn't super repetitive or anything, there's this pacing thing with Dead Space 1 where it'll go through the same sort of 'beats' over and over again. I can never find myself able to play Dead Space for more than a few hours, not because of fear but a tedium the game has in extended periods, despite being a person who beats several 8-12 hour games in one sitting several times a month. I don't have this problem with the sequel, and I personally enjoy the sequel more. I know the first one is 'scarier', but I've never really found it scary, fun yes, but not really even creepy, more... Interesting? It can have tense moments, and some startle moments, but the horror feels too... Flashy, I guess? Like it doesn't feel organic. Ironic to use that word due to what Dead Space is all about, but it feels more like spectacle horror at times than true horror. Which isn't bad, but then it employs all of these techniques from horror games that rely on the game scaring you or catching your interest with other elements, and for some reason I just find those elements to be absent in Dead Space. The art direction is good but I don't find the locales particularly interesting or having key intrigue elements like Silent Hill. I don't find the atmosphere to be all that creepy. The puzzles aren't particularly great, the game has some fun mix-ups with Zero-G, stasis, kinetics, and such... But I feel Dead Space may be too focused around its Necromorphs.
This is always hard for me to describe, it is an action-horror game, but I don't know... It just feels like... The Necromorphs are interesting enemies, and the game is ace in some areas like UI, some subtle details. But it almost feels like instead of making something greater with that they settle to rely on the same few tricks over and over, and make a solid action-horror game, but miss out on what could be so much more. Dead Space 2 takes it in a more action-y direction, but I think is paced far nicer.
Many likely won't agree with me, and that's fine, but I always have had these weird split thoughts on Dead Space 1 I can never quite explain.
This is always hard for me to describe, it is an action-horror game, but I don't know... It just feels like... The Necromorphs are interesting enemies, and the game is ace in some areas like UI, some subtle details. But it almost feels like instead of making something greater with that they settle to rely on the same few tricks over and over, and make a solid action-horror game, but miss out on what could be so much more. Dead Space 2 takes it in a more action-y direction, but I think is paced far nicer.
Many likely won't agree with me, and that's fine, but I always have had these weird split thoughts on Dead Space 1 I can never quite explain.
I'm really surprised that Dead Space is getting so much praise. I played through the first game a short while before the second came out it felt very by-the-numbers to me. It was a serviceable game, but didn't doing anything special or terribly interesting. I didn't find the atmosphere terribly foreboding either. The "twist" in the story was also super-apparent from very early on and incredibly cliche.
One thing that I did like was that all of the weapons were just re-purposed tools rather than actual guns. That was a nice touch.
One thing that I did like was that all of the weapons were just re-purposed tools rather than actual guns. That was a nice touch.
Stallion Dan
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And RE4, all of which are poor RE games.
Samurai G0SU
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Didnt know to stomp the green boxes when you first arrive with your team. O rly items youll need later? Yep.
ugh_the_boot
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Dead Space 1 & 2 and all the Souls games were my favourite games last gen. I think DS1 is probably the best but the 3d anti-gravity movement in part 2 gave the mechanics a little bit of an edge. The dismemberment gameplay is so unique, gruesome and simple and it added so much to the survival horror genre. I also love upgrading of weapons and armour/suits. One of only a handful of games i've ever completed 100%. Part 3 was ruined by the horrible story and the cumbersome weapon crafting/scavenger bots. The crafting was actually quite good but I just spent way too much time mucking around with all the different designs that it broke the flow of the gameplay....lol so techincally my fault but god was the story horrible so it was probably for the best.
Dead Space 2 is so good for totally different reasons than the fisrt one, I love all these games, but what the second delivered won't be topped anytime soon.
This particular scene at the end of Dead Space 2 where Isaac is sitting, defeated and tired, then the camera pans and there's Nicole sitting next to him, that whole scene is just amazing.
This particular scene at the end of Dead Space 2 where Isaac is sitting, defeated and tired, then the camera pans and there's Nicole sitting next to him, that whole scene is just amazing.
nkarafo
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Well, lets just say that RE4 isn't as bad as 5 or 6 at least. But i see your point.
wookieofdoom
Member
I love Dead Space 1 & 2. Three is such a let down. The first part of 3 is good, but the enemy encounters and complete lack of tension and atmosphere and ridiculous story (a love triangle? really?) killed that game for me. But man do I love the first two. I have a black t-shirt with the Ishimura logo on it that I still wear. It's a rad shirt because nowhere on it does it have the Dead Space logo. Simply black with this:
Bad ass shirt.
Bad ass shirt.
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you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
ds1 deserves a remaster for current gen.
wookieofdoom
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Omg yes.
Methamatics101
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Loved DS1. Such a good game in my opinion. BUT the part where you
have to shoot those fucking asteroids to pieces almost ruined the game for me. What were they thinking?
Always-honest
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Yeah that game was incredible.
A lot of thanx goes out to one of the best games ever made: RE4.
Ofcourse some of the gaffers were born way after that game was released or something.
A lot of thanx goes out to one of the best games ever made: RE4.
Ofcourse some of the gaffers were born way after that game was released or something.
GungriffonEX
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I actually didnt like it the first time I played it. I though the standard cutter was so good that I never felt I was in any danger.
I gave it another shot last year and went in with the a "im not looked in here with them, their looked in here with ME" attitude, and loved it.
I gave it another shot last year and went in with the a "im not looked in here with them, their looked in here with ME" attitude, and loved it.
Seductivpancakes
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Everything about that game was good but the controls where my favorite thing about Dead Space.
I love Dead Space. The first one is my personal favorite as well but I thoroughly enjoyed the others too, including the awesome mobile game.
I highly recommend reading the first book. It takes place many, many years before the first game and features Michael Altman, a name you've heard mentioned in the games as the founder of Unitilogy. The book is primarily about him, Unitilogy and the finding of the first Marker on Earth, but Altman isn't exactly what the games portray him to be. Give it a read!
I highly recommend reading the first book. It takes place many, many years before the first game and features Michael Altman, a name you've heard mentioned in the games as the founder of Unitilogy. The book is primarily about him, Unitilogy and the finding of the first Marker on Earth, but Altman isn't exactly what the games portray him to be. Give it a read!
One of the easiest parts of the game
laserlaser
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I love the universe and the atmosphere they created. But damn DS1 was a chore to play. Literally. Go here, open this, fix that. Glad necromorphs were around to keep me from falling asleep.
Uh, I'm currently playing it (chapter 3 at the moment) and that doesn't sound too good. While I love the atmosphere and how detailed the Ishimura is, so far all necromorph encounters and jumpscares have been very predictable. Can't blame the developers much though, very few games have managed to nail that "horror timing" outside of the first Resident Evil games.
The Libertine
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My favourite game in the series. 2 was a bit more action focused, but still good and 3 seemed to abandon everything that made the first two games great. The first was tense, it had a great setting and some amazing monster design. Also the weapons were awesome. The ripper was so much fun to play with.
Yah it's very good. More thriller with horror trappings but still really good. Loved the chilly atmosphere though and sense of dread.
Pity about the turret section that was a real misstep but there you go.
I liked DS2 fine too. It went full Aliens with the action, focusing on being a muscular thriller with horror easing back a bit it it could still produce some gurnuine horror on occasion
DS3 is guenuinely horrific but for all the wrong reasons. Although it did continue the close tie with Alien franchise by having a mangled third entry with too much studio interference with some bonkers ideas and some flashes of what could have been I guess.
Pity about the turret section that was a real misstep but there you go.
I liked DS2 fine too. It went full Aliens with the action, focusing on being a muscular thriller with horror easing back a bit it it could still produce some gurnuine horror on occasion
DS3 is guenuinely horrific but for all the wrong reasons. Although it did continue the close tie with Alien franchise by having a mangled third entry with too much studio interference with some bonkers ideas and some flashes of what could have been I guess.
The second best actiony Resident Evil game after Dead Space 2.
Still bums me out to no end what happened to the series. The coop ideas in 3 weren't even that bad and the game worked mostly fine as a single player experience, but the gameplay took such an immense step back, it's actually kinda baffling.
I really hope EA is going to greenlight a proper sequel in the near future.
Still bums me out to no end what happened to the series. The coop ideas in 3 weren't even that bad and the game worked mostly fine as a single player experience, but the gameplay took such an immense step back, it's actually kinda baffling.
I really hope EA is going to greenlight a proper sequel in the near future.
GlamFM
Banned
Who would make it? Visceral Games is now caught up in battlefield bullshit it seems.
Isn't the team mostly intact though? Schofield and Condrey left after 1 (ironically to get caught up in CoD bullshit), but I think all the other key people are still there.
And speaking of Battlefield, EA gave DICE the go ahead for a Mirror's Edge sequel so not all hope is lost.
weren't they doing a star wars game?