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rttp/lttp: Gen IV/Pokémon Platinum
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Hey, BW had plenty of stuff to do! It's just that nearly all of that stuff can only be done once, or is only worth doing once.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Platinum is the height of 2D Pokemon for me.
The Sinnoh Region also blows Unova OUT OF THE WATER. Seriously, it's the best Region, lots of diverse locales, interesting mythologies around the various areas, and even some non-linear moments unlike Unova.
In fact, I believe Unova's linearity is due to some dumb Japanese kids complaining they got lost in DPt when they had to travel to the Lakes during the post-game.
The Sinnoh Region also blows Unova OUT OF THE WATER. Seriously, it's the best Region, lots of diverse locales, interesting mythologies around the various areas, and even some non-linear moments unlike Unova.
In fact, I believe Unova's linearity is due to some dumb Japanese kids complaining they got lost in DPt when they had to travel to the Lakes during the post-game.
Winterfang
Banned
Fallacy.
PreyingShark
Member
It doesn't have a mandatory water section that makes me want to stop playing every time it comes up so it's better than Johto by default.
fredrancour
Member
I barely remember diamond. I'm kind of tempted to find a copy of platinum and play it from scratch.
Unova was easily the worst region. So boring.
Er, what? Don't you mean Hoenn? Johto didn't have that much water.
EDIT: oh, you meant just mandatory... eh personally it didn't bug me too much. It was rather short I think.
I disagree with him but I think not liking a region is a good enough reason to not liking a game.
Winterfang
Banned
Absolutely, can't stand Jhoto and Unova. Never felt like revisit them.
Good point. Johto and Hoenn have these water sections that make me groan every time I replay the game. Sinnoh only has one mandatory water route to complete the game. The other two are in optional areas, and tiny to boot.
I don't know, GameFreak really needs to do something about water traversal. Often times it's just not fun.
Lots of little bad decisions led to a region that was more bad than good. Things like Black City/White Forest, how linear it is, and that giant waste of space Unova Link in the middle of the region, etc... hurt my opinion of Unova. I have lots of favorite pokemon from that generation, but the gym leaders, region, and weak E4 left me cold.qq more said:
I sort of find the Fallacy comment weird then. *shrugs*
It was a really uninteresting region.
The huge city was a big disappointment, I thought it was great at first, but when the novelty wore off... I ended up disliking it. Not only did I realize how ugly it kind of looked, but it was a really boring city with a really confusing layout. It just trades convenience for novelty.
same with me as well.
I love the simplicity of Kanto, but nothing will ever beat the diversity of Hoenn
Oh Castelia City? That place needed to be populated by more facilities, having local characters of its own, and ditch the dull look it had. Like you said, once the novelty wore off that was basically it in terms of appeal. I HATE the music for that place, good lord.
Driftveil was cool, especially in BW2. It had a distinct look, it was a port town, interesting layout, things to do and people to see, easy to get around, and the PWT was just to the south.
Goldenmoney
Member
I guess I should try Platinum. I've only played Pearl and Heart Gold for Gen 4 and enjoyed both very much. Gen 5 is the only region I'll never go back to.
Johto is my favorite for its simplicity and the eastern theme attached to it. It's so great. Kanto goes 2nd, Sinnoh 3rd and Hoenn 4th. All great in their own rights.
Yeah, that city. It was a huge missed opportunity and became just annoying to explore.
As for Driftveil, I love the theme for it.
Yeah, that city. It was a huge missed opportunity and became just annoying to explore.
As for Driftveil, I love the theme for it.
Nope, Platinum is a DS game, there are no DS games on the 3DS eshop.
I think I've still seen them in stores (if you're in the US).
Nah that would be too smart of Ninty to put it on the 3DS eShop
I've seen them still in stock at various gamestop and wally worlds.
Also check out amazon you can get it for dirt cheap there
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Well, it's certainly the 3rd best Pokemon title on a system. Well... if you include multiple versions and sequels, the 7th/8th/9th best... Only thing I miss from D/P/Pt is the Poketch. It was insanely useful, and the thing they replaced it with in B/W was awful.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
True enough. I reckon Heart Gold with Black & White's battle system would be the perfect Pokemon game thus far.
tiggerkiddo
Member
I love Platinum, it is what got me back into the Pokemon game, really loved the region of Sinnoh. When I got this game, I pretty much replayed it seven times straight, soooooo good.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Kinda off-topic; Black and White 2 is absolutely needlessly tutorialised. I don't need to know how to heal a Pokemon by now thanks.
The games are not only made with long-time players in mind.
LonelySeal
Banned
Gen 4 was without a doubt my least favorite. The only good thing that came out of it was Dusknoir, but they kind of cancelled that when they made Murkrow's evolution so ugly 
I never bothered playing Platinum because diamond left such a sour taste, I did buy both HG & SS though. Also, little fun fact about my opinion on gen4: it was the only gen that didn't even have a single starter that I liked. I chose piplup and he was just my HM slave.
(btw, first post, YAY! took forever to get my account accepted :3)
I never bothered playing Platinum because diamond left such a sour taste, I did buy both HG & SS though. Also, little fun fact about my opinion on gen4: it was the only gen that didn't even have a single starter that I liked. I chose piplup and he was just my HM slave.(btw, first post, YAY! took forever to get my account accepted :3)
entremet
Member
It's been happening since first Gen. Gen IV also has these tutorials. Remember these games are consumed by tons of kids.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
No but I don't remember the others being quite this irritating. It's probably because I've played it before, X and Y's tutorial will seem amazing and wonderful because it's new.
Black and White (both games) have more tutorials and handholding than the other entries. Not by much, but it's noticeable. I didn't like the constant interruptions and being led around each new area by an NPC.
Junichi Masuda said they make every pokemon game under the assumption that it's someone's first. In other words, they keep barriers of entry really low.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Platinum was pretty cool. One of my favourite Poké-memories is Nuzlocking it with a Porygon as my starter. Sinnoh's kind of blah in my opinion though, except for the excellent and atmospheric northern areas.
BW will likely never be topped as my favourites though due to how much fun I had with both of them. It's the only time I've bought both primary versions in a generation, which says something about my attachment to them.
BW will likely never be topped as my favourites though due to how much fun I had with both of them. It's the only time I've bought both primary versions in a generation, which says something about my attachment to them.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Yeah, to be fair in retrospect now I do remember telling your bitch mother in Gold you knew how to open the damn Pokegear and having her tell you anyway.
GreatMightySymp
Member
Diamond/Pearl were a bore, although Platinum was better since they fixed a lot of the minor slowdowns (although their fix for the tweaking glitch messed with my eyes because I kept noticing when the new map pieces loaded and could see the jerking while it did it).
Black/White is easily the highlight for me so far, though.
Black/White is easily the highlight for me so far, though.
I don't think there has ever been a bad game in the main series of Pokémon, but to me the least good was the third generation. Diamond and Pearl was a step up from that, in my opinion, and Platinum was even better. I see no reason to go back to Diamond and Pearl now as Platinum is the definitive Sinnoh game for reasons many of you have already mentioned.
It might not be the most memorable generation in the franchise, but it shouldn't be overlooked.
It might not be the most memorable generation in the franchise, but it shouldn't be overlooked.
Aaron Strife
Banned
I think the reason there are more tutorials now is simply there's more stuff to do. That being said I think the old man in Fire Red (which I'm currently playing through) telling you how to catch Pokemon after you've already caught Pokemon is pretty ridonk.
Japanmanx3
Member
Platinum da best! Even though it was LeafGreen that brought me back go even being in Pokemon. OG Gold version classic still too. But Platinum >
entremet
Member
It's definitely great. Very underrated generation. Platinum improves much of the slowness and issues in DP.
Deified Data
Banned
Platinum still has the best post-game in Pokemon.