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Rumor: Activision Exploring Modern Warfare 2 Subscription Service
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But if some people like the chaos, does personally avoiding the chaos actually fix the entire experience or does it just fix the experience for yourself?Jeff-DSA said:
Taste varies from person to person and GG allowed the player to choose. Who are you to say what people like and dont like when such a thing varies from person to person?
Thats all Im gonna say on this because this thread is about 2 seconds from going 'stupid'.
Rapping Granny
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It can't be a real COD thread without someone mentioning KZ2, way to go guys.
If this happens it won't be for MW2 or any Infinity Ward developed game. FourZeroTwo posted this on Twitter.
http://videogamesrepublic.com/?p=5147
http://videogamesrepublic.com/?p=5147
brain_stew said:
Says the guy who plays Crysis and every other game on his PC with teh superior IQ at 1080p @ high frame-rates at very high settings...gaming on a 360 for example is more expensive than having a strong gaming PC just because MW2 will have extra DLC crap that a lot of people won't give a fuck about. :lol :lol :lol
brain_stew should just stop all this "PC elitist" trolling - and people think only PS360Wii fanboys are ban-worthy...
What an idiotic move. It may make me reconsider purchasing the game at all. Subscription feature to get all the modes? What kind of idiotic nonsense is that? They don't even want you to own the modes, but rent them out to you. Disgusting greedy companies. Infinity Ward hardly even supported COD4. I stuck with it because the gameplay was great, but you come and make me pay a subscription fee for 'continued support' and I'm not going to be quite so tolerant of a company that has such limited support for its customers (Infinity Ward) and its greedy mother company (Activision).
Stoney Mason
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Feindflug said:
While his post in this thread was fairly tame I agree his posts are generally full of trolling as are a couple of other PC posters. The PC trolling has really risen a great deal in the last year or so. It's generally allowed however because a couple of mods fall into the same category.
Stoney Mason
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RoboPlato said:
It's been posted a couple of times and people just ignore. They just like to rage at Activision nowadays so actual logic or reality go out the window.
Stoney Mason
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RoboPlato said:
They are never going to charge you for actively playing a multiplayer game on consoles. Even the op states that and is in fact targeted towards a COD "mmo" if anything. As I said what they might do is start charging for "extra" stuff but even that isn't really related to the op technically and is also pure speculation at this point.
Activision is disliked on GAF. Perhaps for good reasons but once a dog pile sets in, it is what it is. A dog pile.
BravoSuperStar
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Feindflug said:
He has also helped out more users with PC questions than anyone I can think of on this board. And he also makes a good point, with the price of console games higher, monthly subscriptions, perhipherals, couches, hdtv's etc.
Don't take that last part to seriously, =p
norinrad21
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I don't see what all the fuzz is about, you guys wanted HD next gen gaming and you finally got your wish and now that you have to pay through the nose for it, you start rioting
I didn't realize what you meant, I just read the OP. Didn't know so many people were jumping to conclusions. But yeah, I'm not a fan of Activision as a company either so I see why people are getting upset even if it is baseless. I'm a huge fan of Infinity Ward and I did like the Treyarch CoDs so I just don't want people to take it out on those companies.Stoney Mason said:
Stoney Mason said:
Yeah he is easily one of the most annoying posters in here - recent example was the Outrun XBLA thread where he was saying how the 360 versions IQ is crap compared to teh superior 1080p/200fps PC version, people kept saying to him that they didn't give a fuck but he just wouldn't stop. :lol
Stoney Mason
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Feindflug said:
There are certain people who no matter what the thread is about you know they will steer it towards one of the following subjects.
Keyboard and mouse are so much better than a gamepad.
Consoles are just unplayable with their ancient tech, low frame rates, and low resolutions.
PC devs are so much more awesome than console devs and the ones that become consoles devs are now awful compared to when they used to be awesome when they worked exclusively on the PC.
Superior PC version ftw!
Something related to Crysis.
I shit you not, no matter what the thread one of those five points will be aggressively steered towards no matter what the actual discussion is about. It's automatic.
And this comes from someone who games on both consoles and the PC.
The PC fanboys are as bad as any of the other fanboys on the board and have become arguably even more so recently.
Rapping Granny said:
My fault, sorry. It was supposed to be a simple point about the fact that CoD4 doesn't have a monopoly of that type of multiplayer (evidenced by the fact that many of the mechanics were borrowed by KZ2) and thus they won't be able to charge for a premium service.
And I only mentioned KZ2 because its been on my mind recently because I started playing it again and many of the mechanics strongly reminded me of Modern Warfare. My comment wasn't intended to judge one as being superior to the other, nor was I commenting on the balance of each.
I don't have enough hours in it to comment on how much of a clusterfuck it is -- it seems like it is so far, but then I thought CoD4 (console versions of it, at least) always ended up being a clusterfuck as well.
CrazedArabMan
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Domino Theory said:
couldn't of said it better myself, sucks for MW2 fans if this happens though.
Ugh, from the developers at the Infinity Ward message boards:
Apparently you people think he's...lying?
Good lord some of you are paranoid conspiracy theorists. Besides, they're exploring the idea. Apparently people hate Activivision so fucking much these days that if they have so much as a thought that involves them making a profit people have aneurysms.
I trust Infinity Ward enough to take their word for it. Besides, if EA couldn't get away with selling weapons in Bad Company, there's no way in hell this would ever fly for Activision.
Apparently you people think he's...lying?
Good lord some of you are paranoid conspiracy theorists. Besides, they're exploring the idea. Apparently people hate Activivision so fucking much these days that if they have so much as a thought that involves them making a profit people have aneurysms.
I trust Infinity Ward enough to take their word for it. Besides, if EA couldn't get away with selling weapons in Bad Company, there's no way in hell this would ever fly for Activision.
Loxley said:
To be honest, it wouldn't be the first time on of them lied, a la "each console will get a special perk" about CoD4. IW are really talented, no doubt, but people give them too much slack. The amount of support given to a game that sold that well, and considering how many people still play it, is actually laughable.
I'm sure there will be a PC only demo and 360 only beta again (which I have both machines to handle it), but I'm guessing the PS3 will get hosed again, especially since it already has with the first two map packs being exclusive to the 360. I'll get the 360 version since I know it'll be the most catered to, just feel bad for some people to get hosed on a multiplatform game that significantly.
brain_stew
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Feindflug said:
Trolling? Stating the fact that PC gaming is now cheaper for anyone that buys 5 or more games a year and plays online isn't trolling, its stating the reality of the situation that we no have. Is the initial outlay on the PC side, higher? Yes, I never disputed that. Is the cost over time, higher? Well no, its not any longer now that you get charged at every turn on the console side, all for stuff that always was and remains free on the PC side. The more things that are monetised on the console side, the more expensive it gets, that's a fact.
The fact that you get to play more games (and a much wider variety spread accross many more priecepoints), at better framerates, IQ and graphics settings is just the icing on top, really.
I'm well aware why people choose console gaming, used to do it myself. But the more PC standard features these consoles take, and subsequently water down and charge for, the less appealing the platform becomes. Now that consoles are no longer consoles but piecemeal PCs without any of the major advantages of the platform, they no longer interest me. In fact, the Wii is the only interesting current approach as far as I'm concerned, its the only console that recognises that immitating the PC platform is only going to end in disaster.
If stating that a provably cheaper and better experience is actually better and cheaper makes me an elitist, then fine, that's what I am.
I can clearly see, you're alluding to the "super high resolution" thread that I created, well if you had the sense to read the content in that post, you'd realise I make a point to stress the cost of the components I use to achieve such settings and only ever post screens using the settings I use in real gameplay. No bullshot Crysis pictures will be found from me, only shots using the settings I use, on my budget gaming rig. All I'm doing is presenting facts and showing others what you can get on a low budget these days, no trolling or hyperbole, just the cold hard facts and reality of the situation.
All of my posts, contribute to the discussion, bringing up valid points for people to discuss, all you've proceeded to do is call me a troll and ask for me to be banned. Its how one is supposed to present their argument in a discussion, yet you simply can't grasp that unfortunately it seems. I have faith that the moderators of this forum have a little more sense than you do.
Stoney Mason
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J-Rzez said:
I cry a tear for PS3 owners every night. Those poor stupid bastards...
â Narayan
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Please do it.
Then I won't have to buy your game anymore.
Then I won't have to buy your game anymore.
brain_stew
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idahoblue said:
Well I can't speak for the Australian market since I've got very little experince of the reality there. The situation I described is very much the reality in the UK and US now, interesting times indeed. Bizarro world if you ask me.
polyh3dron
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Bullshit, Infinity Ward will fall back in line and do Kotick's bidding just like Republicans with Limbaugh.RoboPlato said:
Stoney Mason
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X26 said:
And the circle of thought reaches full bloom!
Well played sir. Well played indeed.
brain_stew
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Stoney Mason said:
I believe on a message board we're allowed to have a discussion. If you have evidence to counter my points then I'm all ears, I've always been open to a proper and just debate, so long as people hold themselves to the same standards as I try to do. Present real evidence to back up your case and I'm all ears. Bitch and whine calling out people as trolls and wishing for bans achieves nothing.
I'm absolutely a fan of your contributions in the iPhone gaming thread btw, even if you utterly despise me as poster or person, that's not going to stop me from acknowledging a useful contribution you make to the forum and thanking you for it. So go ahead and rip my posts to utter shreds if you want to, I actually welcome it because its intellectually stimulating if its done properly and its always helpful to see a reasoned argument from the other side.
I absolutely believe that the reason stuff like this is being trialled is because the console market accepted paying for things that PC gamers have always had for free. The fact that Activision give away their premium maps to PC gamers for free is a very salient point and it was very much a useful contribution to this thread I feel. I don't know how anyone can recognise this as trolling, but go ahead, explain away.
Stoney Mason
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Kibbles said:
I mention the mmo part because that is the easiest way to do subscription services and legit get away with it and because they've talked about it before. But like I said the moment this actually happens people will have something to bitch about or stage their protests or boycotts or whatever it is people do. Until then it's pointless bitching at a survey that has been disavowed from the company actually making the game.
Stoney Mason
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brain_stew said:
Dude I have nothing against you but you're a PC elitism troll. Nothing wrong with it but that's what you are. Nearly every post you make on the game side is triggered towards boosting your platform of choice and down grading a couple of other platforms in particular. It is what it is. It's annoying when console guys do it. It's annoying when you do it. It's annoying when people do it, to troll the Wii, etc.
Like I said we are all free to post what we want but your constant PC elitism gimmick (especially when it is not relevant to any thread until you insert it in their) gets annoying. I would never try to pimp the iphone the way you pimp the PC outside of that iphone thread because I know it would be obnoxious for example.
Nothing against you. You seem like a decent enough intelligent poster. It just gets very old.
1-D_FTW said:
I love my PC. Just got through playing some prototype on it. I just don't feel the need to go into a PSP thread or DS thread or random threads about cross platform games and start attacking the DS or PSP or saying how much ass they suck in comparison to my awesome iphone to give a comparison. Because it's a bit annoying and its truly a subjective viewpoint from the perspective of someone taking into account only what they actually think is important.
brain_stew said:
I like you. You're one of the bigger PC advocates. I also like Stoney Mason from the poligaf threads. But I don't agree with his anti-PC agenda he always goes on. PC gaf gets just as much as it gives (and I'd argue it gets a lot more than it gives.) I think he shows how much he dislikes PCs, because otherwise he'd realize this.
brain_stew
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Feindflug said:
Yo asshole, I was genuinely trying to find out whether or not that version was worth my money, Outrun 2 is one of my favourite games of recent times, and I was genuinely disappointed that Sumo didn't deliver as much as they should have, and I was severely pissed that they managed to add framedrops in a motherfucking Sega arcade racer. I'm an utter Sega whore, and there's nothing more sacred to me than the framerate of Sega's arcade racing games, its one of those thing that you do not mess with unless you want to piss people off. Talk to camineet, he/she'll understand exactly where I'm coming from.
I did buy it in the end, because more Outrun is more Outrun and considering that puts my copies of Outrun 2 at three I think I had as much right as anyone to post in a frigging Outrun thread.
brain_stew
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Stoney Mason said:
I'll only do that if I feel my contribution is relevant to the discussion at hand and I absolutely feel it is here. I'll admit sometimes I must have stepped over that line, and I'm big enough to apologise for that. I actually respect you as a poster more than most here, but I do feel sometimes you overcompensate with the PC hate (like I sometimes do), and I'd like to think you'd be able to recognise that. Its something we can all be guilty of from time to time, its the nature of a messageboard.
Most of my posts are relevant to PC games because, guess what, that's the platform I play most of my games on these days, so that's what I like to discuss. With the vast majority of console games now having PC versions, yeah, I'm going to be in the same threads as console gamers a lot of the time.
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