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Rumor: Apple launching iPad Pro (tablet/laptop hybrid) in the Fall

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As long as it's running iOS with its current capabilities, you can't target professionals with it. No multitasking, no desktop-class photo/video/audio editing apps, hell, gimped file system access too.

I feel like a snapping like multitasking will come soon to iOS.
 
This seems highly unlikely and if it is real sounds like a bad, fundamentally uninteresting product.
Everyone said that about the iPad back when it was rumored, too. "It's just a big iPod Touch!"

I'll jump on this if it has a digitizer and good palm rejection for note taking and, more specifically, drawing.
 
I like how Apple quietly kill the new products (iWatch iTV) and keep expending their popular product. Now all we need is a Galaxy Note sized iPhone.
 
I like how Apple quietly kill the new products (iWatch iTV) and keep expending their popular product. Now all we need is a Galaxy Note sized iPhone.

Yuck, please no.

As for the tablet, if it runs full OS X (meaning an Intel chip and I can install Windows with boot camp) color me interested. If not, it's just another worthless toy like the iPad.
 
So did the iPad.

We all know how hard that thing flopped.

No, it was immediately clear to me why the iPad was a good idea at the time, and any nagging doubts I had got put to rest within about 10 seconds of using one. I used one within a week of release date (a coworker imported one from the US) and got one through work within a month or so of launch.

There are definitely device categories that I've mis-estimated the appeal of--Phablets, for instance, although once I used one I had a better sense of why they're popular even though they're not for me--but let's not revise history and pretend that everyone is always negative about everything and no one gets it and then success comes out of left field and everyone eats crow. Lots of us have open minds for new product categories and assess them pretty much correctly at an early juncture.

I do not believe this is an actual product, and if it is an actual product, I do not believe it is an appealing one. I've used convertible tablets (Surface Pro with the keyboard attachment), and I think intrinsic to the form-factor is a level of unpleasantness. Apple might well be able to make a sleeker, more polished product, but I just don't view it as an approach that is fruitful. I don't imagine such a product would be joyful to use, and I think that's at odds with Apple's approach to things.
 
I like how Apple quietly kill the new products (iWatch iTV) and keep expending their popular product. Now all we need is a Galaxy Note sized iPhone.

Wow, wow. Slow down there, cowboy. How about just Galaxy S3-4 sized iPhone for now?
 
Seems like a touch screen Macbook would make more sense. I can't really see anyone using iOS for work.
I don't think it would have a touch screen either. But a Retina MacBook Air is gonna happen at some point as Apple slowly tries to cycle the entire Mac ecosystem up to high-density displays just like they've done with the iOS ecosystem.
 
I like how Apple quietly kill the new products (iWatch iTV) and keep expending their popular product. Now all we need is a Galaxy Note sized iPhone.

I love how you can claim that you can kill a product that isn't even one yet. Not only that but then to claim they're killing a fictive product that it seems they are just putting more and more resources into.
 
Probably not true, but it would be interesting if Apple decided to go after the Surface, which IMO is the future of mobile computing.

Probably would still run yucky iOS though. They would need to merge their OSs like MS did and I don't see that happening so quick.
 
As long as it's running iOS with its current capabilities, you can't target professionals with it. No multitasking, no desktop-class photo/video/audio editing apps, hell, gimped file system access too.
Word. Especially on the file system bit. No idea who they are trying to fool.
 
Word. Especially on the file system bit. No idea who they are trying to fool.

You mean the analyst and not Apple, right?

This is analyst speculation and not something that Apple is likely releasing nor if there any reliable source saying it's in work. iOS pro - something needed for a hypothetical iPad pro - is an idea that's pretty much opposite to every move Apple has made with iOS.

I'll say it again. I think it's more likely we'll see Mac OS on ARM than iOS change direction and become a pro OS with traditional desktop features (or that apple will release a third, hybrid OS that has both )
 
Please just give me a Retina Air. I need it so bad

You've probably heard this before but the 13" retina pro is a pretty good buy now. Only slightly heavier and pricier than the Air but you get the awesome screen, more power, and sufficient GPU for the screen now.

When it first launched the 13" retina was an awful deal. But tech has caught up with a good integrated GPU and Apple has pried it much more aggressively now.
 
As long as it's running iOS with its current capabilities, you can't target professionals with it. No multitasking, no desktop-class photo/video/audio editing apps, hell, gimped file system access too.

I concur. Not only is there lack of compatibility because there's no x86 processor, but anyone running heavy professional apps isn't going to run it on ARM or Apple's chips. Intel's x86 is nearly 10x faster per core and IPC.
 
1. I donÂ’t think this thing would be good if itÂ’s running iOS. no one is rushing out and making hybrid devices seem like a sure thing.

2. I think Apple will eventually make a Macbook Air revamp that uses ARM chips, gets crazy 40 hour battery life or whatever, weighs less than 2 pounds, and runs Mac OS X. My guess is 2015

I think we’re still a long way away from iOS gaining the complexity required to become what people think an ipad “pro” would be (windowing environment, virtual memory, more complex file system access) so I don’t expect iOS to butt into Mac OS’s territory for these types of things. not for a long, long time.

Yeah, this is my main question re: the iPad Pro. I'm not seeing how iOS is going to shoulder "enterprise" use or whatever. You don't even have a real file system. What good is an iPad Pro with an operating system that's only good for playing mobile games and watching Netflix?
 
It makes sense in a way, I've never honestly thought of tablets as practical for work purposes.

As prohibitively expensive as they are, the Surface is a good idea.
 
Didn't Apple specifically make fun of hybrid devices at their last event?

Ahem:
If you set a child down in front of a laptop, they ask "why can't I touch it?"

Touch is natural. New computer users expect things to be touchable. Having tablets and kiosks and phones and everything else in their lives touchable, but just because something has a hinge, it's not touchable, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense why literally the only personal screens that don't always have touch these days is your laptop.

Why does a hinge make so much difference?


Once you get a laptop with touch, it's pretty universal that you start to wonder why you ever thought you'd want one without it. It's certainly not the primary means of interfacing with it, but it sure is nice to be able to just touch the screen when you want to.

Don't be confused by Apple's lack of touch on Macbooks. Their "gorilla arm" arguments are misdirection, in the exact same way they claimed that no one wants video on iPods, and no one reads anymore, and no one wants mini-tablets.

Look at a coffee shop today and almost everyone with an iPad has some sort of keyboard hooked up to it. If you don't think Apple realizes that the inverse is inevitable, you're just buying into the reality distortion field. Macbooks with touch aren't just a matter of if, but when. Apple simply just doesn't have the OS to support it yet, but they absolutely will before you realize it.
 
This doesn't make any sense.
OS-wise OSX or iOS? OSX would suck for a tablet and iOS sucks for a notebook (why not just get an ipad with keyboard?).

12-inch? So it's more expensive than an MBA or cheaper? And if it has iOS it has far less functions, so why bother?

Hybrid laptops or laptops with touchscreen still don't make any sense.
I'd rather have a good trackpad.
 
you have my curiousity, apple. i feel like they've slowly been transitioning OSX and iOS to a point of convergence
 
Convergence man.

Ubuntu phone had it right. Give me an iPhone that is iOS when mobile and when I dock it to a monitor with Bluetooth m/kb it runs straight up OS X.
 
I've played around with the Asus Trio, I can see the appeal in Windows + Android hybrids but for some reason an OSX + iOS hybrid seems like something that'll compete against Apple's own products and business strategy
 
I've played around with the Asus Trio, I can see the appeal in Windows + Android hybrids but for some reason an OSX + iOS hybrid seems like something that'll compete against Apple's own products and business strategy
The key is to integrate it in. This is a pretty weak rumour because it doesn't talk about the large scale product and OS revamps they would have to do to accommodate such a move.

It will be interesting to see how Apple attacks it, and what market they try to push first. They've been talking about it forever, but Microsoft beat them to the punch and was pretty successful in creating an OS that can cater to both desktop needs and tablet needs, and nailing down a ton of imperfections in 8.1. They just didn't choose a demographic for it to explode and fucked up their initial launch.

Apple isn't going to make a hybrid device. It's too niche of a market.
It's a logical progression. You could've called the tablet market niche way back then.
 
This rumor started solely because Apple's buying up high-density 12.9" displays and analysts desperately want to assume that they're for oversized iPads and not for a far more likely Retina MacBook Air.

It doesn't remotely pass the bullshit test.

iPad Air Mac!

Nike won't sue for similarities, they're buddy-buddy.
 
This rumor started solely because Apple's buying up high-density 12.9" displays and analysts desperately want to assume that they're for oversized iPads and not for a far more likely Retina MacBook Air.

It doesn't remotely pass the bullshit test.

I hope that's what it is. A retina MBA with 12+ hour battery life would be delicious.
 
I'd rather just have a MacBook Air with a touch screen. I would never want to use an iOS device for my main computer. The way multitasking works on my iPhone is great for a phone, but shit for a computer.
 
I want this device. I have an iPad 3 and wish it had a bigger screen for reading pdf files. Retina helps but when the original file was an A4 or larger piece of paper that text gets pretty small on the iPad. And I hate reading pdf files on laptops since the screen is fixed. Turning a laptop on it's side is plain weird.

No need for a Macbook Air since I just don't need a keyboard attached 100% of the time. But having that option would be nice. Sometimes I would like to be able to have a keyboard for the iPad so I could type something. Plus if this is using an A# processor it's guaranteed to be cheaper than a Macbook Air.
 
iPad with touch friendly OSX? Even a MacBook Air Retina with a touch screen? I'd be interested in either. iOS is just too limiting for anything but casual smartphone use. Even on my phone I'm starting to get tired of the restrictions.
 
I wish Apple made a Wacom Cintiq competitor. THAT kind of a tablet.

Everytime I think Apple is overcharging for something, I remember that Wacom exists.

So true. I have an iPad 3 and refuse to upgrade until Apple releases an iPad that operates like a Cintiq. They day they do that, I'll be first in line to buy.
 
Anybody else here remember when Apple used to innovate rather than just copying competitor's ideas?

Like when they put out a desktop computer as tall as an iPad with a 12-core processor and dual GPUs cooled by a single fan? Or when they came out with a 10" tablet as thin as most of their competitors' 7" devices and with double the per-core CPU performance of Qualcomm and Samsung's best chips when they weren't even designing CPUs five years ago?
 
Since it's come up in this thread, I *do* think that iOS will likely be getting a simple document file system (most probably using an "all my files" view and tags, a la Mavericks, instead of folders) to replace the current too-limited app-silo model used for that right now. Probably in the left-of-Home screen that Spotlight used to occupy.
 
Apple isn't going to make a hybrid device. It's too niche of a market.

what? almost everyone is doing it now. Samsung, Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo etc

i would love a hybrid macbook. but i'm not sure if OSX works well with touch

Apple has a patent for it anyway.
I still don't know how apple is getting all these ridiculous patents.

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I was actually just suggesting this to my friends recently that I would buy this day one if it came out, then I realised that it would be at least $700, maybe $800 and was like nope too expensive for not a premium product. They would only be competing with the Microsoft Surface RT. Their best bet is to create an OS hybrid for the iPad and have a keyboard come with it, along with all of the office type applications they sell for it. That is IMO their best bet, but they probably won't introduce a hybrid one until 2015. 2014 is all about iTV and iWatch.
 
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