Davey Cakes
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The whole NY vs. Boston thing is weird. You think my city is a shit hole, I think your city is a shit hole.
At least Boston doesn't smell like ass, vomit, and garbage everywhere.
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Rumor: Fallout 4 might take place in Boston
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At least Boston doesn't smell like ass, vomit, and garbage everywhere.
alfredofroylan
Member
I'd love to have a Fallout game that's closer to the events in the Great War,hope they don't push this one further into the chronology.
I went up there for a Yanks/Sawx game once and it smelled worse than it did in most sections of NYC. Fenway is the biggest rathole in that city probably.
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Did they ever fix fallout 3/NV?
Dictator93
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Davey Cakes
Member
Dude, I'm from the Boston area and I can't stand Fenway Park myself.
Well it wouldn't be a Fallout game if it's before the irradiated wasteland we all know and love. Maybe something a few weeks/months/years after? But then that would be the issue of radiation.
EmCeeGramr
Member
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Tactics
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Boneyard
Anyway interest dropping if it's more Fakeout with mindless Super Mutants, miraculous recovered Enclave, and Our Best Chums, The Brotherhood of Steel, while you crawl through endless ruins and subway mazes.
Hopefully Bethesda will have actual writers for this. New Vegas 1000 times better by the writing alone. Bethesda just can't write memorable characters and their writers are as subtle as a punch to one's dick.
I'm not hating on Bethesda. The Capital Wasteland was a more interesting place to roam around, but the Mojave felt more lika real place.
I'm not hating on Bethesda. The Capital Wasteland was a more interesting place to roam around, but the Mojave felt more lika real place.
MightyHedgehog
Member
That's it! We need a New York versus Boston subplot and quest line in this game. Maybe their big post apocalyptic gangs could be the major factions in the game.
Washed_Out
Member
Don't really care where it's set just give me more Fallout.
The Mana Legend
Banned
The first time I went to Fenway park, I had no idea I was actually walking on the outside of it. I seriously thought I was just walking by a run down building. Then when I found out it was Fenway Park, I was shocked as fuck.
Fenway Park is one of the most disgusting "historic" buildings I've ever been to.
Hahahahahhahaha
I've heard Bethesda tries to do a lot of this sort of preliminary research work prior to entering production so they don't waste a ton of development resources on this sort of stuff and are able to speed up the game development. Being privately owned, they can basically be a "one game at a time" studio, but they seem very intentful in planning so they don't waste months on unfruitful directions. Crazy to think they basically developed Fallout in about 2.5 years, though I would expect about three years here.
No PS3 SKU for starters. Pretty sure this is a next-gen title.
This would be interesting if true. Mostly because it opens up The Commonwealth as a new fraction, not just another west cost faction transpanted into the east coast (on that note, I wonder if we'll get more of the goodguy east coast Brotherhood, or go back to asshole isolationist Brotherhood?) As others said, this has the potential to feel kinda samey to Fallout 3, so I hope they take strides to differentiate the two.
Also it means we'll be bouncing back between the coasts again. Which isn't bad, but NV left me wanting to know more about what happens with the NCR and the Legion. My ideal Fallout 4 would take place in the Four Corners region. We see what Legion society is like away from the frontlines in Arizona. The NCR moves into Utah and has to deal with the locals. We could finally explore Dog City (Denver) which was originally planned to be in Van Buren. Plus, Los Alamos and Roswell are perfect settings for Fallout shenanigans. Though I admit it would have the potential to feel too much like NV. But honestly, I'd be perfectly fine with a NV-2, even though I would understand if not everyone felt the same.
Also it means we'll be bouncing back between the coasts again. Which isn't bad, but NV left me wanting to know more about what happens with the NCR and the Legion. My ideal Fallout 4 would take place in the Four Corners region. We see what Legion society is like away from the frontlines in Arizona. The NCR moves into Utah and has to deal with the locals. We could finally explore Dog City (Denver) which was originally planned to be in Van Buren. Plus, Los Alamos and Roswell are perfect settings for Fallout shenanigans. Though I admit it would have the potential to feel too much like NV. But honestly, I'd be perfectly fine with a NV-2, even though I would understand if not everyone felt the same.
Not likely. I never hear any major criticisms against their writing mostly so they would feel there is no need to improve the quality beyond fanfiction material.
Dictator93
Member
Anyone want to see fallout in someplace other than an American City perhaps? Maybe Prague, Berlin, or london?
As stated already the Fallout lore is pretty much America. It wouldn't be the same anywhere else.
First part would be cool, second part not so much, unless it was revealed super early on. That way it could have a meaningful impact on the gameplay and story and not simply be a stupid Shyamalan.jpg.
It would also provide them with ample reason and justification to change and improve a lot of the UI and interface to something fresh. Along with allowing for some unique twists to the standard stat/perk systems so we dont end up with the same thing from FO3/NV, same for the computer hacking and other mini games.
Somewhere among the rubble, this better be there:
Need the obligatory ghoul bartender of course.
lol, so true
Indeed. I just don't get these kinds of complaints anymore. The last game took place in a fucking desert, and that still managed to be somewhat interesting to explore.
I also don't see the problem with it being in other countries either. Nuclear apocalypse is pretty much a global thing... Sure the lack of "Americana" would make some things different but some things being different isn't a problem and some things could still be the same.... Maybe Vaultec was a multinational corporation...Same with Nuka-Cola.
I H8 Memes
Member
I love the Fallout games, but I dont think I can handle any more games on this engine. This will be the 6th? By Oblivion it was too much.
Also, the aiming in Bethesda games is the worst from any company in gaming. The crosshair is completely detached from the weapons. Aiming up and down looks ridiculous.
Also, the aiming in Bethesda games is the worst from any company in gaming. The crosshair is completely detached from the weapons. Aiming up and down looks ridiculous.
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
I loved the iron sights in NV.
AuthenticM
Member
Yeah, but all of their games are broken at launch (and beyond). Nobody is saying that they make bad games.
Sure the apocalypse affects all the world, but the other countries don't have the same stake in the Great War. With Fallout set in America, the main participant in the war, it means the player would uncover the ruins of old weapons sites and mad science research labs. See all the crazy things America was trying during the war. You also see the effects it had on society, like the over-the-top McCarthyism, duck-and-cover and Cold War paranoia. The player sees that all of these things added up to cause the apocalypse. We see the tragedy that the end of the world was something of our own making. That's what makes it work. That would either be absent in other countries or a watered-down version where UK or wherever is doing similar things, but just because they're part of NATO or whatever. The apocalypse isn't something that comes out of Europe's mistakes, it's not the tragedy that America brought upon itself, its just an unfortunate event they got caught up in.
A good bit of Fallout is looking back in the past. Great War America is Doctor Strangelove. Great War Europe would be When the Wind Blows: The video game.
Mr.Wreckless
Banned
As broken as Fallout 3 was at launch New Vegas was easily on another level when it came to glitches. Honestly, that game was unplayable at launch. It was so bad i promised myself i would NEVER buy another Obsidian game for anything over half price.
I played both games and didn't see any improvement in the writing in New Vegas.
I'd really like to see a very comprehensive side by side comparison between Bethesda's writing and Obsidian's writing.
The Commonwealth being in the game would be awesome. All sorts of high tech stuff, lifelike androids like the escapee in FO3...
Heli you could even get a nice moral dilemma with the androids or your character could even be one. But then again if Bethesda is going to write it, they're going to balls it up.
Heli you could even get a nice moral dilemma with the androids or your character could even be one. But then again if Bethesda is going to write it, they're going to balls it up.
As a Boston resident, I'd be very curious to see what they could do.
As for those wishing for more Obsidian, didn't that collaboration end with bad blood on both sides? I know that Obsidian got really pissed that they missed royalties over 1 Metacritic point, and I seem to recall that Bethesda got really pissed at Obsidian for staining their reputation because NV was seen as extremely buggy (which is ironic because Bethesda is buggy on its own and the fact that they were supposed to be responsible for QA).
As for those wishing for more Obsidian, didn't that collaboration end with bad blood on both sides? I know that Obsidian got really pissed that they missed royalties over 1 Metacritic point, and I seem to recall that Bethesda got really pissed at Obsidian for staining their reputation because NV was seen as extremely buggy (which is ironic because Bethesda is buggy on its own and the fact that they were supposed to be responsible for QA).
EmCeeGramr
Member
Well, one game had actual consistent themes and a morally gray conflict between multiple sides with no easy answer, while the other was Americana Wacky Blood Land where the knights in shining armor fought the monsters and also the bad people who are bad because they're bad and there was a Jesus analogy.
I wouldn't necessarily call Obsidian a baby when that missed royalty mark is a large reason that they're in such tough financial straits at the moment.
Not even in New Vegas' companions? The amount of charm and character that went into NV's companions is world better than the one-note followers in F3. If there is anything I want Bethesda to take from NV, it's how to give followers personality and story.
Skyrim is not supporting those hopes, at all 
Red Blaster
Member
You forgot the worst ending of all time until Mass Effect 3
The_Player
Member
I still can't believe there are people who care about series with Bethesda being in charge of it.