HalfBakedProphet
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Been a while since I played ME, but the reapers weren't just attacking the milky way, right? Would their attack be universe wide or something?
Preserve life in the galaxy.
Milky Way.
Reapers only ever refer to the Galaxy's cycles, not all cycles for all galaxies. You guys remember the the control ending right? Shepard uses the reapers to protect the galaxy, not many afaik.
Neverforget
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My PC died just shy of finishing ME2, I just gave up on the series because of how annoyed I was, but reading this thread now is actually hyping for the series all over again.
Preserve life in the galaxy, i.e. when shepard becomes the new Reaper AI in the control ending. There are no Reapers in other galaxies.
LordOfChaos
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Hmm, so how do Krogans exist in both galaxies? How different would Andromeda Krogans be from Milky Way ones? Will other species exist in both galaxies? Questions, questions.
On a ship I'd imagine.
there could be relays in the Andromeda galaxy...or some unknown equivalent
Xplatformer
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Sounds like what I wanted Destiny to be.
Where are you getting this from?
Xplatformer
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Day ONE.
Control ending he replaces the reaper AI- the collective intelligence of all reapers. The crucible "signal" or blast travels throughout the Milky way and never leaves its boundaries in the cutscene.
The Reapers are a narrative dead end. Bringing them back just poisons any ME4.
I'm willing to bet they may be mentioned in terms of the backstory, but I would be absolutely shocked if they show up at all. They have hinted several times that there will be no save import and seemingly no Keep-style web site, so your earlier choices don't fucking matter, so the Reapers are just gone. Kaput. They no longer are a concern.
I'd also be way less excited if they got brought back. The Reapers fucking suck. Bioware ruined them entirely by the end of ME3.
Let's just move the fuck on, and try something new.
Exactly my point. The ME3 endings only affect Reapers within the Milky Way so any reapers in other galaxies or in dark space would be unaffected and could show up in future Mass Effect games. In the control ending Shepard replaces the collective AI for all the Reapers in the Milky Way.
There is no collective intelligence in just the milky way, the collective intelligence represents all reapers, and as the control ending shows us, there are none outside the milky way.
There is zero indication that there are Reapers outside the Milky Way.
All evidence point to them existing solely inside the Milky Way, given that the Leviathans who BUILT the Reapers exist only in the Milky Way, the controlling AI was in the Milky Way, the Control ending only shows the Milky Way, there are no Relays (which the Reapers built) leading outside the Milky Way, etc.
Existing in dark space puts them at the fringes of the MW, not close to other galaxies as well.
edit: Star Child: "I control the reapers, they are my solution"
The Reapers in the Milky Way make the collective intelligence within the Milky Way. That's what makes it a collective. And none of the endings establish there are no Reapers outside of the Milky Way.
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Little bit offtopic: How likely will we get the ME-Trilogy again this generation?
The final act establishes there are no reapers outside the milky way. The catalyst controls the reapers, they are his solution, shepard replaces him in the ending and lo and behold, there are no reapers shown outside of the Milky Way. It's a collective of the reapers, not all the reapers inside the milky way only.
Hell, all the endings establish the lack of reapers and relays outside of the Milky Way. Your choice to execute the Catalyst- the one in control of the reapers, and when you do it stays within the Milky Way as this is where they were created, as well as the residence of their creators the Leviathans.
According to shinobi it sort of is?
Because it's likely that this was a Council initiative.
If this was an ark scenario in which they were trying to get out of the Milky Way to avoid the Reapers, there's probably representatives of all the major races.
So there will also likely be Asari, Turians and Salarians as well.
Oh? I'm on mobile any chance you can link the post?
Seriously, plenty of evidence has been presented that the Reapers exist only in the Milky Way.
What evidence do you have that they don't beyond a certain interpretation of a single line of dialogue?
I wouldn't take that as a proof of anything as they are making it up as they go. In ME1 Reapers were supposed to be machines but they later on became made of the DNA and whatnot of the species they conquered.
Fighting over details in the plot of a Bioware game seems pretty useless as they don't care much about them either.
Dragon Age story and lore has lots of detail, very little of which if any contradicts itself. I think this is an ME phenomenon.
"I embody the collective intelligence of all reapers."
IMO, it's pretty cut and dry here. It says it's all reapers. Shepard can become all reapers, shepard as the AI is only in the milky way, so it follows that the catalyst was only ever in the Milky Way.
Yes he represents the collective intelligence of all Reapers, but the control ending only affects those within the Milky Way because there are only relays within the Milky Way. If there are any Reapers outside the Milky Way, they are cut off and become a separate collective.
C'mon, you can't prove a negative. I'm saying that nothing contradicts the possibility of Reapers outside the Milky Way.
Yes, especially given that that the Leviathans who created the Reapers in the first place come from the Milky Way and have only lived in the Milky Way.
The quote. The Leviathans who exist only in the Milky Way. The lack of relays in other galaxies. The fact that you have to go through mental contortions with no support in order to justify how the image of the Control signal affects only Reapers in the Milky Way.
There is literally zero evidence that there are Reapers elsewhere.
Honestly it sounds good and closer to what a lot of people hoped the first ME series would be. If they stay away from the super cosmic force wanting to kill all life or the warring militaristic aliens hellbent on killing humanity as the central conflict then good. Make Mass Effect Star Trek.
What if the seamlessness is only from Normandy-Orbit to planet surface? That's not much different from essentially moving within a giant open world, ala Skyrim. The consoles do have 8 GB of RAM. Why not put them to use? (I'm talking about using them for streaming nearby vicinity of the level, not keeping everything in there, lol )
Given that this whole mess started with Reapers overstepping the boundaries of their creator's wishes, I don't see what this has to do with anything.
There are no reapers outside the catalyst, it says directly "all reapers". All of them.
You obviously believe what you want to believe. It's clear that we will never agree on our position.
I am certain that I'm going to be vindicated when the game comes out.
Well that is interesting. I love that guided procedural generation is becoming a thing this gen. So much potential. Thanks for quoting it!
You mean this one that clearly only shows the control signal affecting just the Milky Way?
Yes, because they're only in the milky way. Catalyst says "all reapers". Catalyst only affects Milky Way. All reapers are then only in the milky way.
You mean this one that clearly only shows the control signal affecting just the Milky Way?
So according to shinobi it is going to take place hundreds/ thousands years later. How is that going to work with the 3 endings?
Also if you made peace with the Geth and Quarians and didn't choose the destroy ending, will the Quarians be going around without their suits since the Geth were helping to restore their immune system?
If you destroyed the Geth will they still be is the suits?
Also if you made peace with the Geth and Quarians and didn't choose the destroy ending, will the Quarians be going around without their suits since the Geth were helping to restore their immune system?
If you destroyed the Geth will they still be is the suits?
You leave prior to the ending AFAIK. Once you've left, choices made won't matter mercifully.
You mean this one that clearly only shows the control signal affecting just the Milky Way?
I mean the fact that despite the Catalyst says he controls all the Reapers, you're saying that there must be Reapers elsewhere because reasons.
You have literally presented zero evidence to prove your point. There is nothing to point to Reapers existing elsewhere.
But again, this is going nowhere. I remain certain that if you're expecting the Reapers to show up or be involved in the story beyond simply explaining why the expedition exists, you will be sorely disappointed.
HalfBakedProphet
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As someone who loved ME3 MP, loved Mako exploration in ME1 and hated all the baggage of ME3 ending, I think this is mostly great news.
Coffee Dog
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Procedural generated planets with nothing of note to explore sounds like exactly what I'd hoped they would avoid with this awful new HUGE MAPS SUCH CONTENT bent they're on.
I'd rather play on 20 planets with in depth, longer sidequests than be hitting gathering nodes on 100.
I'd rather play on 20 planets with in depth, longer sidequests than be hitting gathering nodes on 100.
They said they're modifying the worlds they're generating. Procedural generation is just for laying down the foundation from what I understand.
Because the signal can only go where the mass effect relays are. It can't go outside of the Milky Way regardless if there are Reapers there are not.
If Reapers were elsewhere, the signal is not going to just jump out to other galaxies where there are no relays to take it just because Reapers are there.
TheLostBigBoss
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No, Andromeda is the nearest galaxy in comparative size to the Milky Way.