Wormhole, new breakthroughs in cryo, both? It's mass effect, fucking space magic yo
Both. 3 was a bit more liberal with auto-refills when visiting the citadel.
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Wormhole, new breakthroughs in cryo, both? It's mass effect, fucking space magic yo
Both. 3 was a bit more liberal with auto-refills when visiting the citadel.
AnathemicOne
Banned
Hopefully the questing will be different from DA:I. I love DA:I but I cannot for the love of all that is holy get through a second playthrough, fucking fetch sidequests are boring as fuck.
shinobi602
Member
Repopulating and colonizing Andromeda would take a large amount and diversity of human subjects (DNA). With that in mind, any Ark ship would need to contain not just a few hundred or thousands, but tens of thousands of people to have proper genetic diversity in a new galaxy.
Lucky for humans, they're inherently more genetically diverse than any other species, but I do think tens of thousands of Ark colonists is a given.
Karak
Member
And we likes to F*ck.
But seriously on that point ya. Those aren't going to be ships they are going to be asteroids with giant rocket boosters on them to handle the numbers needed.
MaddenNFL64
Member
Sounds badass, i love it!
I wonder if we'll be able to jump back to the Milky Way?
I wonder if we'll be able to jump back to the Milky Way?
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
No just a couple hundred with tens of thousands of frozen embryos for diversity.
But since were setting up new colonies as part of game mechanics, there will inevitably be a colonist fleet with thousands of people and multiple species.
Yeah, Interstellar Plan A seems more likely for the sake of immediate colonization, than Interstellar Plan B which would work, but would possibly be boring as shit.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The very first Mass Effect couldn't even properly reconcile the prolific representation of humanity throughout the galaxy both in spread and sheer density relative to the time passed since the Pluto relay was discovered. It's a series staple to not make sense.
MaddenNFL64
Member
So, is the Milky Way like totally fucked beyond repair, or what? The Mass Relays broke right?
I've always found that odd. DA has it's problems but it's so much more coherent lore-wise. Maybe they'll get there via a Fade rift?
Temporarily, but it doesn't really matter for the purpose of ME4.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
They're repaired in the Extended Cut. But I maintain that'll be irrelevant for Mass Effect 4, which probably wont address the trilogy ending at all.
Might as well converge all BioWare franchises into one molasses.
The remnants are ancient elves, the art of their cities is Arlathan.
MaddenNFL64
Member
They get to Andromeda via fade rift, and then the Glorious Strategist trains the new protagonist to perfection, but with one flaw...
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
The size of the colonies aren't too bad, the biggest being like 4 million people 30 years after establishment (mostly emigration presumably). But going from zero to "1/3 as powerful as the Asari; 1/5 as powerful as the Turians in terms of fleet strength" in such a short is majorly implausible. And being such a major political force. Like the citadel defence fleet got busted up in the battle but it's not like that would majorly impact overall strength of all three council races given how spread out and entrenched they are.
Even then it's weird. 1/5th the size of the turian military while at the same time having the smallest percentage of people in service.
LegalEagleMike
Member
As am I. I feel that if we do not hear about it at E3 then it is probably not going to be a thing though.
Haha, amen. That took me out of things a bit until I made a concerted effort not to care. That effort was sharpened, honed, seasoned and charbroiled until the fated day arrived and I learned of Mass Effect 3's ending and I... shrugged and carried on.
If it ends up not being a thing, it won't be for lack of trying, at least. Aaryn Flynn doesn't just come here and ask around for pointers on how to make one without some considerable interest in such a project. Only way it falls apart is if EA put its foot down and insisted otherwise.
That was about the time I knew I had to gain an account around here. I sat there posting "man, I wish he asked us, too" on BSN and GameFAQs and at a coffeehouse with my good friends and while staring at the cat I named Garrus until I was blue in the face.
Something is coming... unless it isn't. Mark my words.
Could just be an XBL/PSN port.
edit: DA can just throw blood magic at something until it works, but doing so is literally canon.
shinobi602
Member
Pretty much what I'd expect, yea.
I'm not so sure that was Flynn's insinuation. He talked at length about the obvious resolution improvements, the conscious decision not to remake ME1's combat, the personal hope to make all DLC far more well-integrated.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Can't believe they actually went for the "ancient technology/secrets left behind my a mysterious race" angle yet again, hahaha.
Not mutually exclusive to an XBL/PSN port.
I suppose this is true.
Mass effect HD this fall, ME4 spring next year. This is my hope.
Anyone who thinks ME4 is coming this year is crazy.
prag16
Banned
All the cool kids (read: pessimists) are saying 2017 now. Don't think anybody at all is still saying 2015.
They go to that well a lot.
Protheans in ME trilogy.
Ancient Arlathan in DA:I.
Primeval thaig in DA 2.
Rakatans in KOTOR.
Old Ones in NeverWinter Nights.
Am I missing any?
To be fair, the Elves and Dwarves are still around, but you're right.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Well yes; I was kind of hoping that they tried a different angle this time. Like maybe pursuing a highly dangerous criminal that's just that, a criminal, without the involvement of all these mysterious devices/beings/lost technologies thingies.
Though I suppose it's hard to pursue the "threat to all galaxy" angle without the ancient technology blah blah blah.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
"Ancient civilization" is basically their go-to safety net to do it's-magic! cop-out plot progressions and resolutions.
Who's to say they won't. For the sake of immediate population, they'd need lots of people there though as well as embryos.
arturo2666
Banned
I dunno, I thought Dragon Age: Inquisition's battle system was pretty fun (and similar to ME2/ME3 in a lot of ways). The part that made DA:I un-finish-able for me was the fact that I'd sit down, play for 5 hours, and walk away feeling like I hadn't progressed at all. It just didn't respect the player's time at all.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Yeah well, hopefully they don't pull off another one of those "oooo loookieee the ancients actually provided us with a solution to our problems we just have to find it/complete it" bollocks again.
I still kind of hate how they conveniently just found the solution of all the Reapers problem back on Mars in ME3. Like, it's just in those files over there, T'Soni.
Lol no way, 2016 for sure. 2017 would be terrible.
To be fair, thats literally the entire concept of the game mass effect is based on.
I think most of the civilizations are still around in some form in all those games.
Yeah Mass Effect and Dragon Age incorporate it pretty well into their lore I think, it's just that I wish they do something different this time given they've got a clean slate.
Finding ancient ruins unto itself isn't bad, it's the way it's used as a source for modern knowledge, technology, and intellect that bothers me. Dragon Age doesn't have this nearly as much, you learn from the past to know more about the now, but that's how it works in real life.
wolfhowwl
Banned
That and you had classes with fun gimmicks that weren't present in the campaign like the God-tier N7 Fury.
Yeah the trope itself isn't a problem, especially in a Medieval Western setting where the idea of technologically superior ancient civilizations reflects reality to some extent.
I'd just prefer to not see another Bioware game where the plot and stakes are shaped yet again by ancient progenitor space magic, given I think the premise otherwise sounds cool.
Going at a different angle with the Remnants can go a long way. The most interesting thing about the Protheans wasn't their space magic, it was how they shaped and influenced the Asari in the past. Their own tech could have been equal or lesser than the council races, but it would still be fascinating.
The most interesting thing about the ancient elves isn't their superiority, it's seeing the myth unmasked.
Javik saved the whole Prothean plot thread in my mind. They went from plot device to fascinating civilization in the span of like 4 conversations with the guy.*
*This is your daily reminder that the guy who wrote Javik - John Dombrow - recently returned to BioWare to be a Senior Writer for ME Next.
Maybe not. From http://genetics.thetech.org/ask/ask113:
"Conclusions. As you can see, this is a tough number to figure out. It all depends on the founders' genes. Too many "bad" genes with too few founders and you end up with a sickly group that probably won't survive. If you increase the number of people or decrease the number of "bad" genes, the group's chances go way up.
So, given the average number of bad genes in people, 160 is about the right number to give a good chance for survival. We'll have to build a pretty good-sized space ship to colonize another planet!
(Or maybe 70...a recent study at http://www.livescience.com/history/050525_america_settlers.html suggests that North America may have been settled by only 70 people!)"
More here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_colonization
The problem is the Remnant's impact on the Milky Way would have to be minimal unless they want to feed them back into the Leviathan/reaper business, and I think that's left well enough alone.
And this;
Does not fill me with confidence that it would be much more than a "collect x artifacts to activate Macguffin war winner'.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
How many people have been sent to the gallows?
Snrk. I saw that avatar and the same damn sentence popped into my mind.
Thanks for visiting regardless, Mr. Flynn.
Ivory Samoan
Member
Hype overload.
Thought I would hate another galaxy vibe... seems I was wrong.
...and thank the maker for that!
I need some humanity in order to get them 'human exploration' feels in my ME.
Thought I would hate another galaxy vibe... seems I was wrong.
...and thank the maker for that!
I need some humanity in order to get them 'human exploration' feels in my ME.