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[Agent_ShortBus]

I hope it's true my 780 ti's are starting to struggle with 3gb of vram.

 

[JaseC]

However there was a sighting for a Prey poster which could potentially hint at a time-frame for it's release, Prey is launching in May this year.

I wonder if this is also hinting at a hardware bundle. Bethesda hasn't buddied up with a GPU manufacturer since the original Dishonored, so while there is precedent, it has been a few years.

 

[New002]

Consider the TI will either match or be below the 1080 Titan, it wont be enough for consistant 4k/60 with max everything in brand new games. It'll be very close though, you'll just have to sacrifice a setting or two. Basically look at the Titans numbers and subtract 5%, thats what I expect the TI to come in at, primarily due to the slower memory.

A titan XP can't even give you "rock solid" 4k/60, so the 1080 ti definitely won't.

The problem with playing the waiting game is that you will be waiting forever.

You will end up waiting for the 1180 and newer games will be released and it might not be able to hit 4k/60 in those.

I think we are a few years away from the higher end cards having the power to run everything at 4k/60 without any dips.

I just built a new PC and I'm waiting for the 1080 ti.

Appreciate it.

Solid point about the waiting game on this Futurist. May have to make moves on the TI.

 

[AU Tiger]

I was originally planning to go 980ti -> 1080ti, but now that I've just bought a house I'm probably going to wait until Volta 1180 or whatever. Lower cost, higher perf and that sweet sweet 4k HDR G-sync tech that will be out by then.

Same here. I want a single GPU 4K 60+ fps solution and right now, the titan X pascal just can barely do this with some, not all games.

I'm hoping next gen's Ti will get the job done as I'll hopefully have a nice 4k HDR panel in front of me as well.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

4k without 10bit hdr is worthless imo

LMAO

 

[dgrdsv]

LMAO

Yeah, one could say that 10 bit HDR is pointless for dynamic content like games. Let's all wait for HDR12 with HDMI 2.1 now!

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Could cards like a 980ti support Dolby in theory if you had the right cables and software? I know it can (in principle) support HDR10.

 

[dgrdsv]

Could cards like a 980ti support Dolby in theory if you had the right cables and software? I know it can (in principle) support HDR10.

I think it could but Dolby Vision is a licensed standard and thus it's unlikely that it will get traction in PC space where people usually don't like paying for standards implementations. The biggest blocking issue for HDR12 with dynamic metadata is the lack of VESA standard for it and that will likely come alongside HDMI 2.1 (since it's only natural to have compatibility between HDMI and DP in HDR metadata standards). Another issue is that we don't have any monitors on sale even for HDR10 yet.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

I think it could but Dolby Vision is a licensed standard and thus it's unlikely that it will get traction in PC space where people usually don't like paying for standards implementations. The biggest blocking issue for HDR12 with dynamic metadata is the lack of VESA standard for it and that will likely come alongside HDMI 2.1 (since it's only natural to have compatibility between HDMI and DP in HDR metadata standards). Another issue is that we don't have any monitors on sale even for HDR10 yet.

Yeah that's fine. In the HDR space I'm possibly going to buy some sort of HDR 4k tv for my living room around the end of the financial year, a 4k G-sync HDR of some sort I'll get around to eventually but not for a while until the market has a few options and there's some less-insanely priced ones (so basically the year 2090).

 

[Tareskog]

Meh. Probably gonna skip this gen, and wait for the next gen Nvidia anyway. My new gsync monitor ate my upgrade budget for a while, but it did wonders for games sub 60fps on my GTX 980. Curious to se pricing/performance compared to Vega when (if) it eventually is released.

 

[keraj37]

Yeah, no. Unless you show your benchmarks I'm calling bullshit on that.

Here is some proof - I took as an example Battlefront with maximum video settings, 1080p and + ReShade and SweetFX on top of that (that is why the image has some extra sharpness and is little bit darkened)

In upper right corner you can see FPS - I played in many maps with many modes and I had stable 70-90 FPS.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

A titan XP can't even give you "rock solid" 4k/60, so the 1080 ti definitely won't.

The problem with playing the waiting game is that you will be waiting forever.

You will end up waiting for the 1180 and newer games will be released and it might not be able to hit 4k/60 in those.

I think we are a few years away from the higher end cards having the power to run everything at 4k/60 without any dips.

I just built a new PC and I'm waiting for the 1080 ti.

And then people will be chasing 8K with high end setups. Titan XP can give you flawless 4k60 FPS in most modern games. The highly demanding ones require dropping settings a notch but it's not like Titan XP is a slog.

 

[dgrdsv]

Vahvistus: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti esitellään 28. helmikuuta

Google Translate:

Confirmation: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti presented on 28 February

NVIDIA will present the new GeForce GTX Ti 1080 graphics card in connection with GDC in San Francisco, a game developer event.

io-tech has got its own sources confirmed that NVIDIA will present the GeForce GTX Ti 1080 graphics card with certainty be held on 28 February GeForce GTX Gaming Celebration event . Officially, the graphics will be published and will arrive in stores in March.

GeForce GTX 1080 Ti will be available based on the graphics card manufacturers' own plans and circuit board cooling solutions. On the same Pascal architecture GP102-graphics chipset, the Titan X and likely GDDR5X 12 GB of video memory.

The detailed technical specifications and the publication and sale of the arrival date are yet to be confirmed, but according to rumors, the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti-GP102 graphics chip would possibly use 3328 CUDA cores, ie it should be a little less sophisticated than the Titan X graphics chipset used in. However, to compensate for the performance of the graphics card manufacturers more robust cooling solutions and a higher GPU clock speed. Hardest tehdasylikellotetut GeForce Ti 1080 graphics cards are likely to provide better performance than a standard Titan X.

 

[LelouchZero]

Vahvistus: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti esitellään 28. helmikuuta

Google Translate:

I can't wait to see how it performs and what it's priced at!

I'm interested in seeing if the GTX 1080 will receive a price adjustment or maybe we'll just have to wait for Vega to see something like that.
IIRC the previous x80 GPUs received price adjustments when the Ti was introduced, but AMD doesn't have a GPU on the market to compete against the GTX 1070 and above so I don't know if we'll see any adjustment.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Yeah, one could say that 10 bit HDR is pointless for dynamic content like games. Let's all wait for HDR12 with HDMI 2.1 now!

Regular old static HDR is shit anyways, Dynamic HDR in HDMI 2.1 is the REAL HDR amirite??

Yeah that's fine. In the HDR space I'm possibly going to buy some sort of HDR 4k tv for my living room around the end of the financial year, a 4k G-sync HDR of some sort I'll get around to eventually but not for a while until the market has a few options and there's some less-insanely priced ones (so basically the year 2090).

If you are upgrading to a 4K TV now, you should really wait for HDMI 2.1 not because of HDR12/Dynamic HDR/Dolby Vision, but because of Game Mode VRR. That's the real big addition to HDMI 2.1 that will significantly impact gaming.

 

[JaseC]

I can't wait to see how it performs and what it's priced at!

I'm interested in seeing if the GTX 1080 will receive a price adjustment or maybe we'll just have to wait for Vega to see something like that.
IIRC the previous x80 GPUs received price adjustments when the Ti was introduced, but AMD doesn't have a GPU on the market to compete against the GTX 1070 and above so I don't know if we'll see any adjustment.

I don't think the 1080/70 pricing will be adjusted. The $200 premium the Titan XP carries versus its predecessors gives Nvidia plenty of room to price the 1080 Ti such that it's notably more expensive than the 1080 but still much cheaper than said Titan and, more to the point, at this juncture the best 400-series GPU AMD is offering is the 480, which competes with the 1060 -- Nvidia has the higher-end segments all to itself.

 

[keraj37]

source

The card will highlight a 12-gigabyte configuration of GDDR5X 10Gbps memory running over a 384 bit memory interface. Yielding a monstrous 480GB/s of memory data transmission. The card's center clock is around 1.5Ghz and will lift to 1.6Ghz+. There's clearly space for overclocking also, particularly on custom models with top of the line secondary selling air and water cooling solutions. At last, the card has a thermal design of 250 watts, much the same as its greater sibling the Titan X

 

[dgrdsv]

I can't wait to see how it performs and what it's priced at!

I'm interested in seeing if the GTX 1080 will receive a price adjustment or maybe we'll just have to wait for Vega to see something like that.
IIRC the previous x80 GPUs received price adjustments when the Ti was introduced, but AMD doesn't have a GPU on the market to compete against the GTX 1070 and above so I don't know if we'll see any adjustment.

I don't think the 1080/70 pricing will be adjusted. The $200 premium the Titan XP carries versus its predecessors gives Nvidia plenty of room to price the 1080 Ti such that it's notably more expensive than the 1080 but still much cheaper than said Titan and, more to the point, at this juncture the best 400-series GPU AMD is offering is the 480, which competes with the 1060 -- Nvidia has the higher-end segments all to itself.

NV will most certainly try to spoil Vega's launch by setting the pricing to a level which they will be comfortable with beforehand, like they already did with Maxwell, 980Ti and Pascal launches. Thus the question of what will happen to 1070 (to a lesser degree) and 1080 prices is valid. I expect them to push 1080 down a $100 or so to make more room for 1080Ti. 1080Ti is supposed to be sold in higher quantities to the previous owners of 780Ti and 980Ti which means that it can't cost a $1000.

So my current expectation is for 1080 to go from $599 to $499, 1070 will probably remain at ~$400 (or loose some $30-50 depending on what Vega 10 will show for the lower part) and 1080Ti will be introduced at $699 most likely which would be both a $50 higher than the launch price of 980Ti and a $100 higher than the current price of 1080.

I may be a bit too optimistic though.

 

[JaseC]

... and 1080Ti will be introduced at $699 most likely which would be both a $50 higher than the launch price of 980Ti and a $100 higher than the current price of 1080.

$699 would be great, however it strikes me as the best case scenario. I'd be less pessimistic if the Titan XP weren't $1,199 rather than $999.

 

[Adam M]

NV will most certainly try to spoil Vega's launch by setting the pricing to a level which they will be comfortable with beforehand, like they already did with Maxwell, 980Ti and Pascal launches. Thus the question of what will happen to 1070 (to a lesser degree) and 1080 prices is valid. I expect them to push 1080 down a $100 or so to make more room for 1080Ti. 1080Ti is supposed to be sold in higher quantities to the previous owners of 780Ti and 980Ti which means that it can't cost a $1000.

So my current expectation is for 1080 to go from $599 to $499, 1070 will probably remain at ~$400 (or loose some $30-50 depending on what Vega 10 will show for the lower part) and 1080Ti will be introduced at $699 most likely which would be both a $50 higher than the launch price of 980Ti and a $100 higher than the current price of 1080.

I may be a bit too optimistic though.

Why would they lower the 1080/1070 prices if they don't have competition at this price range at the moment? Vega is not here yet so no reason to do this

While 1080 Ti is the most talked scenario I think if they really want to steal the show from AMD that day then they should announce a Pascal refresh to compete with Vega in May. If they release the 1080 Ti then no way they release Pascal refresh 2 months later because the 2080 would have lower performance than the 1080 Ti so basically a barely faster 1080 makes no sense. So again, if they want to kick ass then Pascal refresh announcement now, release early may.
1080 Ti can't compete with Vega because of the different price range

 

[dgrdsv]

Why would they lower the 1080/1070 prices if they don't have competition at this price range at the moment? Vega is not here yet so no reason to do this

Vega is coming soon (like, in April or early May). By lowering the prices on a year old Pascal cards NV is forcing AMD to launch Vega cards on their terms. They've done it several times already, it's why being first to market is important among other things.

While 1080 Ti is the most talked scenario I think if they really want to steal the show from AMD that day then they should announce a Pascal refresh to compete with Vega in May. If they release the 1080 Ti then no way they release Pascal refresh 2 months later because the 2080 would have lower performance than the 1080 Ti so basically a barely faster 1080 makes no sense. So again, if they want to kick ass then Pascal refresh announcement now, release early may.
1080 Ti can't compete with Vega because of the different price range

I don't think that there will be any Pascal refresh, 20x series should be Volta already. It's also rather naive to think that NV doesn't know how Vega cards will perform / cost if they are supposed to be launched in a couple of months.

 

[dgrdsv]

http://www.geforce.com

Basically confirmed.

 

[terencecah]

My body is hella ready

 

[michaelius]

I have a feeling it won't be "bargain" like 980ti was would be nice if i were wrong but I expect 800-900$ this time.

 

[riflen]

I have a feeling it won't be "bargain" like 980ti was would be nice if i were wrong but I expect 800-900$ this time.

Yes, I'd really like this to be more interesting than a 8GB Titan X with fewer cores and a higher boost for £800, but here we are.

 

[x3sphere]

I'm thinking $700 as well if Vega is in any way decent - like within 5-10% of the 1080 Ti. I can't see AMD going above Fury X price point on Vega either - I even think there's a small chance it could come out lower than what the Fury X launched at. They will be riding high off the Ryzen momentum, so it's a great time to pull in new buyers.

I don't think Nvidia cares about undercutting Titan XP too much considering how long it's been out.

 

[Durante]

Yes, I'd really like this to be more interesting than a 8GB Titan X with fewer cores and a higher boost for £800, but here we are.

I think it will be 10 GB.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

I have a feeling it won't be "bargain" like 980ti was would be nice if i were wrong but I expect 800-900$ this time.

Honestly, I'm expecting them to go for the full $1000.

 

[Arkanius]

Honestly, I'm expecting them to go for the full $1000.

Only a 200$ discount?

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

If you are upgrading to a 4K TV now, you should really wait for HDMI 2.1 not because of HDR12/Dynamic HDR/Dolby Vision, but because of Game Mode VRR. That's the real big addition to HDMI 2.1 that will significantly impact gaming.

Is there anything HDMI 2.1 compliant on the market currently?

Edit: I'm seeing that they probably won't ship until 2018. I doubt I'll wait that long.

 

[GinoFelino]

Is there anything HDMI 2.1 compliant on the market currently?

Edit: I'm seeing that they probably won't ship until 2018. I doubt I'll wait that long.

Even then, devices won't instantly make use of all the possible HDMI 2.1 features; that could easily take another year or two.

 

[icecold1983]

I think it will be 10 GB.

Its 3352 or whatever shaders clocked higher than titanx. At stock clocks it has 98.5% of the titans compute. Not sure what the person you replied to was hoping for wrt interesting

 

[Bubba77]

I have dual titan xp's and i havent yet tried to hook it up to my 4k tv to see how it runs. I have a 1440p 144hz gsync display i love. This thread has me interestingin plugging pc into TV to see how things go. I would think without gsync many games wouldnt be the buttery smooth i come to expect

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Even then, devices won't instantly make use of all the possible HDMI 2.1 features; that could easily take another year or two.

Yeah I'm happy to buy another TV in 3-5 years time if it offers an appreciable upgrade.

 

[dgrdsv]

I think it will be 10 GB.

This is an interesting one and one which will probably decide for me whether I'll make the jump (well, that and the cooling performance of custom solutions). On one hand, 10GBs of GDDR5X on a 320 bit bus is a good way to make TXP relevant even after 1080Ti launch, on the other one - cutting memory bandwidth on a card which will be targeted primarily at 4K users (and those of us who likes to use DSR / supersampling) seems like a bad design decision. So I wonder if they'll actually keep the 12GBs / 384 bit bus for 1080Ti...

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

This is an interesting one and one which will probably decide for me whether I'll make the jump (well, that and the cooling performance of custom solutions). On one hand, 10GBs of GDDR5X on a 320 bit bus is a good way to make TXP relevant even after 1080Ti launch, on the other one - cutting memory bandwidth on a card which will be targeted primarily at 4K users (and those of us who likes to use DSR / supersampling) seems like a bad design decision. So I wonder if they'll actually keep the 12GBs / 384 bit bus for 1080Ti...

Titan XP having 12 instead of 16/24 GB of memory sort of ruined the old "half VRAM" thing which made it simple. Shame tbh.

 

[dgrdsv]

Titan XP having 12 instead of 16/24 GB of memory sort of ruined the old "half VRAM" thing which made it simple. Shame tbh.

Well, they have an option of updating Titan XP to 24GBs. Quadro P6000 has 24GBs which means that there is such option now either via a more dense GDDR5X modules or via clamshell two-chips-per-channel configuration. Maybe they'll update it to fully enabled GP102 too.

 

[Celcius]

I'm betting on $949.99 for the founders edition of the 1080 Ti if the performance is close to the Titan X.
I wish they would do something different with the name though, as it should have more in common with the Titan X than the 1080.
Call it a GTX 1090.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Well, they have an option of updating Titan XP to 24GBs. Quadro P6000 has 24GBs which means that there is such option now either via a more dense GDDR5X modules or via clamshell two-chips-per-channel configuration. Maybe they'll update it to fully enabled GP102 too.

I can't imagine how they'd cope with the naming scheme on that one lol

 

[dgrdsv]

I can't imagine how they'd cope with the naming scheme on that one lol

Easy. It'll be called GTX Titan X

 

[Verder]

just lyfted a guy at nvidia and he was hinting at it.


Me: Can yall make it affordable ?
Him : Lol get to saving. D:

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

just lyfted a guy at nvidia and he was hinting at it.

Me: Can yall make it affordable ?
Him : Lol get to saving. D:

Agent Verder, our very own corporate spy.

However, Verde means green. Maybe you are a double agent.

 

[Pagusas]

just lyfted a guy at nvidia and he was hinting at it.


Me: Can yall make it affordable ?
Him : Lol get to saving. D:

Hope he tipped you well to help out.

 

[kuYuri]

http://www.geforce.com

Basically confirmed.

Am I missing something? I'm just seeing the main Geforce page, nothing special beyond that.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Am I missing something? I'm just seeing the main Geforce page, nothing special beyond that.

Earlier on some of the assets on the page referenced 1080ti in their urls.

 

[Dick Justice]

I don't see a point using anything higher than GTX 970 at this point, unless you are rendering with Octane on GPU. But for gaming? My 970 still renders all newest games on ultra settings full hd 60+ FPS.

Whats the point than?

Try playing GTA V fully maxed out (and I do mean fully maxed out), and get back to me. Or Hitman. Or Witcher 3 with hairworks. Or XCOM2.

 

[Renekton]

Try playing GTA V fully maxed out (and I do mean fully maxed out), and get back to me. Or Hitman. Or Witcher 3 with hairworks. Or XCOM2.

Or just ask him to provide frame time graphs in a busy segment like DF's Novigrad ride

 

[JaseC]

Am I missing something? I'm just seeing the main Geforce page, nothing special beyond that.

You're supposed to see a splash video that says:

[countdown timer]

IT'S ALMOST TIME
#UltimateGeForce

The emboldened "TI" gives it away.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

If you can't see it on the site, Videocardz captured it for you to look at.

https://videocardz.com/66309/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-is-coming

IT'S ALMOST TIME

for me to not upgrade from 1080 to 1080 Ti.

Not gonna do it.

Nope.

 

[scoobs]

I'm not upgrading, but I am suuuuuuuuuper interested in pricing and performance. If its $650 like the 980ti, its going to sell like fucking hotcakes. I feel like with Nvidias recent pricing strategies (ie, as high as they possibly can price them) we're going to get like $850 or so.