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Rush Limbaugh Rushed To Honolulu Hospital

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kylej said:
I listened to his show the day after Obama won so I could jerk off.

lmao :lol

I listen to Rush frequently in the car (I know I shouldn't give him the ratings) but it helps me get my frustrations out, and then I can be in the loop to all the latest Republican talking points. I also agree with everyone calling him a racist scumbag. But the truly funny thing is, aside from his racist opinions and whatever, is that almost everything he says as a fact, I then in turn go look up. More often than not he has misconstrued some information to his benefit, withheld facts, or willfully ignored other sides to the story, drawing his own conclusions as he sees fit. The sad side of this is that most conservative listeners never bother to look up the information. They just take his word for it and form their opinions around it. They then babble on about how they supposedly know more, or are in some kind of information loop that the liberal media can't touch or access... it truly is baffling to me.
 
Extollere said:
lmao :lol

I listen to Rush frequently in the car (I know I shouldn't give him the ratings) but it helps me get my frustrations out, and then I can be in the loop to all the latest Republican talking points. I also agree with everyone calling him a racist scumbag. But the truly funny thing is, aside from his racist opinions and whatever, is that almost everything he says as a fact, I then in turn go look up. More often than not he has misconstrued some information to his benefit, withheld facts, or willfully ignored other sides to the story, drawing his own conclusions as he sees fit. The sad side of this is that most conservative listeners never bother to look up the information. They just take his word for it and form their opinions around it. They then babble on about how they supposedly know more, or are in some kind of information loop that the liberal media can't touch or access... it truly is baffling to me.


That's the problem with all pundits, not just Rush though, and the followers of said pundits.
 
drakesfortune said:
I'm holding up the number of times you listened to Rush on my hand right now, and zero fingers are up. You have no clue. You've never listened to Rush. If you had, you wouldn't be spewing the nonsense. Sure, he can be provocative, but he makes good arguments, and he's no different than your average politician.
You have absolutely no idea what you're saying and I would refrain from continuing to speak.

Bigotry and hate-speech, I would hope, is "different from the average politician".
 
Shouldn't liberals be hoping he pulls through? The man has single-handedly turned millions of Americans away from conservatism simply because of his obnoxious behavior.
 
Pseudo_Sam said:
Shouldn't liberals be hoping he pulls through? The man has single-handedly turned millions of Americans away from conservatism simply because of his obnoxious behavior.
I remain aghast at the dishonesty and hatred that has infected our political discourse in this country, in part because of Rush and his ilk. I would embrace in a moment an actual, thorough debate on the merits of, well, any policy, but we don't have anything resembling that right now.

Which is not to say I want Rush dead, or alive. I'm apathetic to him. I am sad when good people die, and neutral when bigoted sacks of shit like Rush die.

Though apparently he's fine.
 
ZephyrFate said:
You have absolutely no idea what you're saying and I would refrain from continuing to speak.

Bigotry and hate-speech, I would hope, is "different from the average politician".


Rush is not a bigot and does not propagate hate-speech. You sound ridiculous. I've listen to Rush many hours due to the nature of my jobs and the man is not a bigot. Plane and simple. If you have audio I can listen to that proves otherwise please point me to it. Sure that passion and constant assault on the left gets old sometimes but change the channel if it's not for you.

It would be a miraculous feat if he was a closet racist, sexist, and bigot. This man would be a leading contender for a lifetime achievement award in acting if he was.
 
PantherLotus said:
Anyways, if Rush is what you consider a goddamned American hero, it's little wonder how the stupids controlled our country for 8 years with dumb twats like you at their Beck and call.

are personal attacks like this allowed on this board? i thought this was ban worthy.

PantherLotus said:
The bold part here is that you are so flamboyantly ignorant to say that he's "almost always right about everything. it's a fact."

flamboyantly, that's an interesting and absolutely inappropriate choice of adverbs. now why don't you pair it with the adjective that's really on your tongue you closet bigot/homophobe/hypocrite?

PantherLotus said:
You find one statement quoted above that you agree with and I'll call you a fucking racist homophobe too.

well all of those are missing context. i'm sure you don't care about that, because true context might not support your predisposed position. but i'm sure you're used to that, having your batshit insane viewpoints requires a lot of sticking your head in the sand. anyway, i could find just as many eye raising quotes from obama or pelosi or clinton (probably even in context).

and hell call me whatever, you've already called me worse. why don't you get cutting edge and throw in NEOCON and NAZI while you're at it, for some real bite and lib forum cred.

PantherLotus said:
As far as 30+ people quoting you, your silly ass doesn't even deserve it, but there's little else somebody with a brain can do otherwise, lest somebody think your meanderings have any merit. The reason you find more liberals on message boards is because they actually know how to use the internet. Possibly also why they are able to assert that Rush Limbaugh and those who agree with him (almost all the time!) are FUCKING RACIST HOMOPHOBIC SEXIST BIGOTS.

I don't wish him death. That's too kind. I wish him fucking pain. And I wish his listeners be barren.

PantherLotus said:
"hur hur libs are smart conservatives are dumb hur hur im PantherLotus, i have an asian school girl for my avatar (and i'm ironically worried about other people being barren), and thats what ive got figured out in my 19 years of life."

dude, grow up, finish college with your degree in poetry or whatever, and spend a few years in the real world. stop masturbating over your loli anime porn and asian school girl fantasies, get your first real girlfriend (she has to know about it), and then maybe i'll consider giving your arguments some merit. but guess what; if you succeed at the above, by then your arguments will have changed to something a little less blindly idealistic, ass backwards, and ignorant.

i said good day sir!
 
Your tag alone gives us permission.

Intellectual condescension works better when you don't confuse "aloud" with "allowed". It's also somewhat telling that you obfuscate flamboyancy with homosexuality and then turn around to call him the bigot.

One more thing; no amount of context can explain those statements away.

diddlyD said:
are personal attacks like this aloud on this board? i thought this was ban worthy.



flamboyantly, that's an interesting and absolutely inappropriate choice of adverbs. now why don't you pair it with the adjective that's really on your tongue you closet bigot/homophobe/hypocrite?



well all of those are missing context. i'm sure you don't care about that, because true context might not support your predisposed position. but i'm sure you're used to that, having your batshit insane viewpoints requires a lot of sticking your head in the sand. anyway, i could find just as many eye raising quotes from obama or pelosi or clinton (probably even in context).

and hell call me whatever, you've already called me worse. why don't you get cutting edge and throw in NEOCON and NAZI while you're at it, for some real bite and lib forum cred.





dude, grow up, finish college with your degree in poetry or whatever, and spend a few years in the real world. stop masturbating over your loli anime porn and asian school girl fantasies, get your first real girlfriend (she has to know about it), and then maybe i'll consider giving your arguments some merit. but guess what; if you succeed at the above, by then your arguments will have changed to something a little less blindly idealistic, ass backwards, and ignorant.

i said good day sir!
 
diddlyD said:
well all of those are missing context. i'm sure you don't care about that, because true context might not support your predisposed position. but i'm sure you're used to that, having your batshit insane viewpoints requires a lot of sticking your head in the sand.
Uh, that's why you listen to Rush in the first place.
 
demon said:
You're not that fucking stupid, are you?

i hope that's not over that typo. likely to find hate speech somewhere else.* make sense now?

so let's go over it. first, anybody who lives their lives based off a pundit wasn't going very far anyway. only those with a will of their own really makes it in the world.

now, limbaugh specializes in republican slogans and hate speech. these things aren't very hard to find. if he dies, these things won't go away. his death won't somehow benefit humanity... a laughable notion if there ever was one.

anything else bubba?
 
WickedAngel said:
Intellectual condescension works better when you don't confuse "aloud" with "allowed".

awww shit i hate that. i'm usually the spelling/grammar nazi. i'll tuck tail and scurry away now. :(
 
Woodsy said:
The difference here is that LeftyGAF can't seem to separate their hate for Rush's politics from his personal private life.

*rolleyes* Racism and homophobia are personal beliefs drawn from hatred and bigotry, not political policies formed from objective analysis.

well all of those are missing context. i'm sure you don't care about that, because true context might not support your predisposed position.

What possible context could make those comments acceptable?

diddlyD said:
are personal attacks like this allowed on this board? i thought this was ban worthy.

We can only hope.

diddlyD said:
dude, grow up, finish college with your degree in poetry or whatever, and spend a few years in the real world. stop masturbating over your loli anime porn and asian school girl fantasies, get your first real girlfriend (she has to know about it), and then maybe i'll consider giving your arguments some merit.
 
milkyjay20 said:
this is the worst post ever. in only a few words, you've revealed so much to me.

it's you who doesn't understand what being compassionate is all about. you don't wish death upon anybody, even the worst of dictators and murderers. i watched saddam hussein being hanged, cuz i wanted to see if it was the real saddam, and knowing all that he's done, i still felt pretty bad for him. lusting for someone's blood is NOT compassionate at all. and that's what most of this thread is; some kind of sick fucking celebration.

i'm not a rush limbaugh fan. i don't listen to him. being a junkie calling for the 10 year arrest of other junkies is just about the worst kind of hypocrisy. so i don't like him. but celebrating his possible death? that's fucking weird, people. comparing a radio host to HITLER is anti-logic. and i bet you're one of those babies who cries whenever someone compares barack "predator drone" obama to hitler. limbaugh says a lot of racist and hateful things, but we have a little thing in this country, it's called free speech. hitler opened the way to the slaughter of millions of people, and limbaugh just talks.

"but he influences a lot of people with his hate speech!" anybody dumb enough to be influenced by anybody is likely to find his hate speech somewhere else, so that's not a strong argument.

Jesus christ do you see everything as black or white? What a simpleminded post.

A loving person can't hate someone who hurt those who he loves? A good person can't do something bad to actually help people? Being compassionate doesn't mean someone has to have blinders on him and be compassionate to every person on earth. Only a moron puts everything in the same basket.

And I didn't compare him to Hitler, learn to read. I gave an extreme example to show how moronic it is to accuse someone of not being compassionate because he doesn't feel compassion for everyone no matter who he/she is.



i expected these kinds of responses though. as far as i'm concerned, many of the liberal gaffers turned in their liberal card some time ago when they excused/ignored obama's warmongering. he's outbushed bush, but hey, we still love the guy :lol it's like the conservatives who love george bush even though he tripled the size of government and sent our national debt sky high. the kind of conservatives who love jesus and the death penalty at the same time. fake liberals and fake conservatives. by the way you say "we" and "our," it's crystal clear, you feel like you're in a little club. this isn't about ideals, it's about belonging. a different flavor of fanboyism.

I couldn't agree more here. It's kind of sad watching the same people who were screaming about Bush defend that fraud now.

My tag as far as I'm concerned is a mark of shame that I deserve and want because it reminds me not to be so naive next time, not follow the hype and read more about someone including sources that are considered fringe by some. Btw when I said "we" I was talking about people who don't give a flying fuck about that enormous piece of shit named Limbaugh.
 
Well, I can't say I wish for his death, but I'll be extremely happy if he retires. I'm glad he's not in serious condition.

I see the usual Rush defenders are out with the usual defenses-- "context" and "you just don't get him" and "he's an entertainer." As somebody who used to listen to him a lot, these defenses don't hold any water at all. He makes bank pumping up people's worst beliefs and making them feel like victims, to boot. He's very bad for society and I don't wish him dead but I do wish he'd go away.

Edit: A lot of liberals are pretty upset at Obama over continued war, btw, including the left-wing radio guys.
 
Doesn't any member of Congress, Supreme Court , the President, or State Representatives exude more influence on our lives than a rich guy with a talk show that simply preaches to the choir?

Maybe it would be better for humanity if GAF starts wishing them dead too.
 
Ulairi said:
Being happy or trying to defend people who are wishing ill on someone because they differ from your politics, makes you a jack ass. It makes you no better than the people you so distain.

"disdain."

JGS said:
Doesn't any member of Congress, Supreme Court , the President, or State Representatives exude more influence on our lives than a rich guy with a talk show that simply preaches to the choir?

Maybe it would be better for humanity if GAF starts wishing them dead too.


Rush not only has a significant chunk of the republican base, he has had high ranking members of congress and the senate apologize to him for stepping out of line.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
"disdain."




Rush not only has a significant chunk of the republican base, he has had high ranking members of congress and the senate apologize to him for stepping out of line.

That's my point. He is preaching to the choir. Now if Obama chose to listen to him, it would be a different story.
Actually, he probably does

Surely people can't believe that Rush is coming up with new ideas OR that he is the reason the Republicans not only won't be going anywhere, but also that they will probably gain control again.

It's inevitable that a 2 party system will seesaw with the times.
 
JGS said:
That's my point. He is preaching to the choir. Now if Obama chose to listen to him, it would be a different story.
Actually, he probably does

Surely people can't believe that Rush is coming up with new ideas OR that he is the reason the Republicans not only won't be going anywhere, but also that they will probably gain control again.

It's inevitable that a 2 party system will seesaw with the times.


No but he maintains an unhealthy status quo and encourages fringe elements of the party that the right-thinking minds in the republican party would like to have go away. If the party is to have a future, it needs to rid itself of destructive garbage elements like Rush and Palin. Personally I'd rather have a good alternative party than a shitty evil one.
 
diddlyD said:
dude, grow up, finish college with your degree in poetry or whatever, and spend a few years in the real world. stop masturbating over your loli anime porn and asian school girl fantasies, get your first real girlfriend (she has to know about it), and then maybe i'll consider giving your arguments some merit. but guess what; if you succeed at the above, by then your arguments will have changed to something a little less blindly idealistic, ass backwards, and ignorant.

i said good day sir!
:lol :lol :lol :lol

Troll Me
And Watch My Head Explode
Yeah, seems about right :lol
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
No but he maintains an unhealthy status quo and encourages fringe elements of the party that the right-thinking minds in the republican party would like to have go away. If the party is to have a future, it needs to rid itself of destructive garbage elements like Rush and Palin. Personally I'd rather have a good alternative party than a shitty evil one.

For the last couple years, the GOP has become nothing but a collective umbrella for the fringe. And Palin... omg. I still remember how she mentioned studies on the fruit fly as a wasteful use of government resources. And that's just one of her many, many blunders.
 
diddlyD said:
dude, grow up, finish college with your degree in poetry or whatever, and spend a few years in the real world. stop masturbating over your loli anime porn and asian school girl fantasies, get your first real girlfriend (she has to know about it), and then maybe i'll consider giving your arguments some merit. but guess what; if you succeed at the above, by then your arguments will have changed to something a little less blindly idealistic, ass backwards, and ignorant.

i said good day sir!

It's funny to me that people who's opinions are most in need of defense and validation, spend most of their time needlessly attacking (and making baseless assumptions) rather than defending their own opinions with intelligence
 
Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.
Winston Churchill
 
I don't want him to die, too easy. Suffering, on the other hand, is very desirable. Pain that'll make him cry for death, weep for relief, and not get it. Delicious. I won't go as far as christians and say he deserves that for an eternity, though. Maybe a couple of years. Then he can die and rest in peace, lol.

fortified_concept said:
My tag as far as I'm concerned is a mark of shame that I deserve and want because it reminds me not to be so naive next time, not follow the hype and read more about someone including sources that are considered fringe by some. Btw when I said "we" I was talking about people who don't give a flying fuck about that enormous piece of shit named Limbaugh.

I can't believe how many idiots watch Obama campaign for years and still couldn't comprehend his positions. Leftist tea baggers, except dumber.
 
The lack of compassion that's prevalent for a true American hero is sickening.

This thread is worse than 9/11 and the holocaust combined. :(
 
DiddlyD... Isn't panther married? I think he mentioned that before anyways, and I get the impression that he either has or is getting a higher education. None of that matters for the topic at hand, but since you want to go that route I figured you should probably know what you're talking about first before firing off a list of nonsensical attacks.
 
fortified_concept said:
Jesus christ do you see everything as black or white? What a simpleminded post.

A loving person can't hate someone who hurt those who he loves? A good person can't do something bad to actually help people? Being compassionate doesn't mean someone has to have blinders on him and be compassionate to every person on earth. Only a moron puts everything in the same basket.

first, let me say i'm sorry for attacking you. i was buzzing last night pretty hard, so i was letting my emotions get the better of me. seeing this thread turn into the ewok party at the end of return of the jedi just because a radio host might die made me turn red. it seemed like this behavior was not only acceptable to you, but quite necessary. of course, it didn't have to be full of responses like "oh golly hope he pulls through," but it didn't have to be a bunch of "aw hell yeah" "he's an asshole so i don't care if he dies" "first he needs to be tortured and then killed." all because of what he says. he's more stupid than he is evil.

a liberal's strength is through their compassion. so seeing a celebration, and then disappointment because he lived, is quite strange and uncharacteristic. these psychos don't need to be defended, they need to be exposed as the frauds they are. they celebrate for limbaugh, but when ted kennedy passed, he was treated like beowulf just died. he was quite old to begin with, and not only did he leave someone to drown, he helped push through nafta and gatt, two of the most sinister and traitorous bills in existence. yet many tears were shed.

on what you were saying about morality... your examples are missing something relevant to the limbaugh thing, and that's death. when someone dies, that's it for them. i'd rather get raped 50 times over than die. a truly compassionate person feels at least a little bad for someone who died, unless this person was totally evil. limbaugh's just a radio host, and being a racist and a sexist and a liar is not exactly evil. if it was, then this earth is truly satan's playground.

My tag as far as I'm concerned is a mark of shame that I deserve and want because it reminds me not to be so naive next time, not follow the hype and read more about someone including sources that are considered fringe by some.

aw don't feel so bad. i almost voted for him myself. i even registered to vote just to vote for him. he cast such a hopeful view of the future, and after eight years of bush, and all his war and shredding of the constitution, we needed change and that's what he offered. i didn't know that he was the largest receiver of campaign donations, nor did i know that he worked for a cia front company after college. i didn't bother to inform myself. it was only my gut that told me not to vote for him. no, you should be proud that you wanted change for america, and it should be obama who should be ashamed.

Chrono said:
I can't believe how many idiots watch Obama campaign for years and still couldn't comprehend his positions. Leftist tea baggers, except dumber.

hey, i don't remember him running on a platform of being bush's third term. i remember the words "a new washington" crossing his lips, but it's business as usual. he said that there'd be no lobbyists, and it's almost his entire cabinet. sure, he said we'd go to war with afghanistan to chase the terrorists, but he didn't say anything about going after the rest of the middle east. he said the iraq war would be ended, but instead replaced most of the soldiers with sadistic private military. he trashed bush for signing statements and reaching around congress, but it's like his favorite thing now. i don't remember him ever telling people that he's only a minion of wall street, that the dark horse TARP would still be trucking along even a year later, and that trillions of dollars would be looted.

no, i remember him saying that he's gonna fix everything and that he will obey the constitution. that's why people voted for him. instead, everything that bush brought, from the targeting of american people as terrorists, to the surveillance, to the shipping prisoners to other countries to be tortured, to the looting, to the wars, every bad thing that bush has done, he's not only kept it, but expanded on it. people did not vote for this, they voted for the angel during the campaign. now that everybody knows who he is, his approval rating dropped almost instantly. it seems like the only place with love left for obama is gaf :lol
 
diddlyD said:
are personal attacks like this allowed on this board? i thought this was ban worthy.

flamboyantly, that's an interesting and absolutely inappropriate choice of adverbs. now why don't you pair it with the adjective that's really on your tongue you closet bigot/homophobe/hypocrite?

well all of those are missing context. i'm sure you don't care about that, because true context might not support your predisposed position. but i'm sure you're used to that, having your batshit insane viewpoints requires a lot of sticking your head in the sand. anyway, i could find just as many eye raising quotes from obama or pelosi or clinton (probably even in context).

and hell call me whatever, you've already called me worse. why don't you get cutting edge and throw in NEOCON and NAZI while you're at it, for some real bite and lib forum cred.

dude, grow up, finish college with your degree in poetry or whatever, and spend a few years in the real world. stop masturbating over your loli anime porn and asian school girl fantasies, get your first real girlfriend (she has to know about it), and then maybe i'll consider giving your arguments some merit. but guess what; if you succeed at the above, by then your arguments will have changed to something a little less blindly idealistic, ass backwards, and ignorant.

i said good day sir!

:lol

You're not very good at this.
 
diddlyD said:
are personal attacks like this allowed on this board? i thought this was ban worthy.

So is backseat modding. I doubt the mods are going to care or they wouldn't have endowed you with that awesome tag. Your posts in this thread are just further vindication for them, I'm sure.
 
PantherLotus said:
:lol

You're not very good at this.

it's funny because first he says that personal attacks might be banworthy, and then he gets quite personal. i think that's someone's head exploding. maybe limbaugh the american hero will save his head.
 
I wanted to give you a better response than LOL, so here goes.

diddlyD said:
are personal attacks like this allowed on this board? i thought this was ban worthy.

flamboyantly, that's an interesting and absolutely inappropriate choice of adverbs. now why don't you pair it with the adjective that's really on your tongue you closet bigot/homophobe/hypocrite?

well all of those are missing context. i'm sure you don't care about that, because true context might not support your predisposed position. but i'm sure you're used to that, having your batshit insane viewpoints requires a lot of sticking your head in the sand. anyway, i could find just as many eye raising quotes from obama or pelosi or clinton (probably even in context).

and hell call me whatever, you've already called me worse. why don't you get cutting edge and throw in NEOCON and NAZI while you're at it, for some real bite and lib forum cred.

dude, grow up, finish college with your degree in poetry or whatever, and spend a few years in the real world. stop masturbating over your loli anime porn and asian school girl fantasies, get your first real girlfriend (she has to know about it), and then maybe i'll consider giving your arguments some merit. but guess what; if you succeed at the above, by then your arguments will have changed to something a little less blindly idealistic, ass backwards, and ignorant.

i said good day sir!

1. You're more than a dumb twat when you call Rush Limbaugh an "American Hero." That's not a personal attack, that's a fucking compliment considering the shocking level of absurd head-in-the-sand stupidity required to make such a dumb statement. God god, man.

2. I'll quote Big Pimpin' for part 2: "Please read a book, you illiterate dog's whelp, it is time to raise your vocabulary level." Flamboyant doesn't mean gay, although your immediate reaction to lash out at me and say I'm closet anything is charming when combined with your literacy level. Projecting much?

3. There is never context for racism. Let's read that aloud (or "allowed" or w/e you're into). There is never context for racism. Hoping, wishing, thinking, or believing otherwise is a pipe dream meant to explain away your own personal failings.

4. The other stuff you said about me doesn't deserve a response, but you couldn't be further from the truth (although I do have a thing for Cutie Koreans).


But seriously, I mean you no harm and I know better than to engage with thick-headed fuckwits that would even bother defending Rush Limbaugh. I do hope that you never have to feel the hatred towards you or your children that that man has embraced and encouraged around our country for an entire generation. If you really would like to learn more about why not only his words are racist, but why his philosophy is racist, let's open a dialogue. If you truly don't understand, start a thread about it and let calmer heads prevail. I'm serious. I don't want to do this back-and-forth thing (I just watched FotR so I'm getting this weird vibe like we're arguing over this evil thing and no good can come from it). Let's open a dialolgue, right now, and show people why those beliefs are wrong.

Maybe some good can come from this after all.
 
Let's also cut the shit comparison between Ted Kennedy and Rush Limbaugh. One of them lived a privileged life but spent the entirety of it giving back--leading the way for Civil Rights, Inalienable Rights, and Universal Rights for two entire generations. He made his mistakes, and he paid dearly for them. But there is no question our nation is better from his work during his life.

The other has unabashedly gotten rich as a snake oil salesman, selling excuses and hatred to the poorest and least-educated Americans for twenty years. His life has made this nation a worse place to be, not better.

This isn't up for debate, and those attempting to conflate the two are truly sad, uneducated, ignorant beings.
 
Can we really be sure that
[Limbaugh] has unabashedly gotten rich as a snake oil salesman, selling excuses and hatred to the poorest and least-educated Americans for twenty years.
implies that
[h]is life has made this nation a worse place to be, not better.
?

"A worse place" for whom? How would it have been different for anybody if not for Limbaugh, even assuming that his greatest influence was upon the "poorest and least-educated" (and I'm pretty positive it hasn't been). How would "it" have been better for everybody, or anybody?

What reason is there to believe that his being more TRUTHFUL to his audience of these supposedly poorest and least-educated Americans would make the nation a better place to be, and not worse?

The man's the dirtiest sort of liar anybody could reasonably imagine, of course.
 
It [the ethereal nation of what could be] would be a better place if he could take his power and talent at his craft for the use of good instead of hate. We [Americans] are worse off because of how he has helped shape ridiculous wedge issues over the past 20 years, but imagine if he did for poor white southerners what Oprah did for stay-at-home moms. Empower, not incite.

Of course I'm just kinda throwing shit at the window at this point. Debating over what might have been if some d00d kept his mouth shut or said something different over the course of twenty years is an exercise in both futility and alternative history (where the further one goes back the more things would likely change). It would be just as easy to argue that Limbaugh's dominance of hate radio prevented even more blatant hate-mongers from gaining power earlier and thus his life has made America a better place.

The unhappy middle ground between your correct point and my assertion is probably that his rhetoric makes bad situations worse. Saying more than that, like "WE ARE ALL WORSE OFF BECAUSE OF HIM!" is just me extrapolating that his pervasive hatred of minorities has somehow justified the underlying racism, sexism, xenophobism, and homophobism for however long, when he probably didn't create it (just served it).
 
PantherLotus said:
The other has unabashedly gotten rich as a snake oil salesman, selling excuses and hatred to the poorest and least-educated Americans for twenty years. His life has made this nation a worse place to be, not better.

I've been meaning to ask - where does his money come from? I have a hard time imagining that working as a radio show host lands you enough cash to buy a NFL team...
 
jorma said:
I've been meaning to ask - where does his money come from? I have a hard time imagining that working as a radio show host lands you enough cash to buy a NFL team...

He's not just a radio host, man. He's the host of a radio program that has 13 million daily listeners. He does numerous spots for products appearing on his show and he's been at the top of the radio chain for two entire decades. The man is huge.
 
PantherLotus said:
He's not just a radio host, man. He's the host of a radio program that has 13 million daily listeners. He does numerous spots for products appearing on his show and he's been at the top of the radio chain for two entire decades. The man is huge.

Wow. That's a big fringe. No wonder the republican party fears him (as i read further up in the thread).
 
PantherLotus said:
Let's also cut the shit comparison between Ted Kennedy and Rush Limbaugh. One of them lived a privileged life but spent the entirety of it giving back--leading the way for Civil Rights, Inalienable Rights, and Universal Rights for two entire generations. He made his mistakes, and he paid dearly for them. But there is no question our nation is better from his work during his life.

The other has unabashedly gotten rich as a snake oil salesman, selling excuses and hatred to the poorest and least-educated Americans for twenty years. His life has made this nation a worse place to be, not better.

This isn't up for debate, and those attempting to conflate the two are truly sad, uneducated, ignorant beings.

driving drunk, crashing into the water, saving yourself, leaving the girl to drown, and instead of calling someone to save her, freaks about his career. to equate all this to a simple mistake, it's clear who the truly sad one is. what you call a mistake, i call negligible homicide. and how exactly did he pay dearly for it? not getting to be president? being forced to make a fake public apology? gimme a break. if justice was properly served, he would've been seeing bars for awhile.

it's true that he introduced some good legislation. but uh, that's kinda his job, and if he's going to be doing it for 100 years, he better have at least something to show for it. even some republicans have brought along some good bills. >:O but ted kennedy has also done some things that are pretty fucking bad too.

despite his reputation, he was no friend to the working man. he pushed de-regulation like his life depended on it, and the restructuring that followed busted up unions good. he pushed nafta & gatt in a big way, and while unemployment continues to go up in the west, children work for pennies on the dime in a slave house in the third world. some people say, when defending obama, that he inherited the bad economy from bush. and while that's partly true, the economy was heading this way before bush even came around. with de-regulation, to the nightmare that is free trade, to the derivatives and the bubble economy, this was all bound to happen. kennedy played a part in this process.

he also introduced the hate crime bill, which obama just signed into law. this shoots free speech in the arm. when i was a teenager, i never thought i'd live in an america that violated the first amendment in any fashion. it's the most important amendment we have. not only that, but it obviously promotes division. it goes against equality.

and no child left behind is a fucking tragedy. you wanna talk about uneducated and ignorant, let's talk about that. very orwellian.

you could argue that the good things he's done outweighs the bad, but that's really to the eye of the beholder. now it's on you to prove how rush limbaugh has made this country worse. unless you were right all along, that there really is no debate about it.
 
milkyjay20 said:
driving drunk, crashing into the water, saving yourself, leaving the girl to drown, and instead of calling someone to save her, freaks about his career. to equate all this to a simple mistake, it's clear who the truly sad one is. what you call a mistake, i call negligible homicide. and how exactly did he pay dearly for it? not getting to be president? being forced to make a fake public apology? gimme a break. if justice was properly served, he would've been seeing bars for awhile.

it's true that he introduced some good legislation. but uh, that's kinda his job, and if he's going to be doing it for 100 years, he better have at least something to show for it. even some republicans have brought along some good bills. >:O but ted kennedy has also done some things that are pretty fucking bad too.

despite his reputation, he was no friend to the working man. he pushed de-regulation like his life depended on it, and the restructuring that followed busted up unions good. he pushed nafta & gatt in a big way, and while unemployment continues to go up in the west, children work for pennies on the dime in a slave house in the third world. some people say, when defending obama, that he inherited the bad economy from bush. and while that's partly true, the economy was heading this way before bush even came around. with de-regulation, to the nightmare that is free trade, to the derivatives and the bubble economy, this was all bound to happen. kennedy played a part in this process.

he also introduced the hate crime bill, which obama just signed into law. this shoots free speech in the arm. when i was a teenager, i never thought i'd live in an america that violated the first amendment in any fashion. it's the most important amendment we have. not only that, but it obviously promotes division. it goes against equality.

and no child left behind is a fucking tragedy. you wanna talk about uneducated and ignorant, let's talk about that. very orwellian.

you could argue that the good things he's done outweighs the bad, but that's really to the eye of the beholder. now it's on you to prove how rush limbaugh has made this country worse. unless you were right all along, that there really is no debate about it.


Hate speech. Don't be so damn obtuse. What exactly is the uplifting or positive elements of Rush Limbaugh's show? Even Rush knows he's getting rich peddling hate. Why can't you? PEACE.
 
Rush just needs to watch the hit 2001 movie entitled Serendipity starring John Cusack and Kate Beckinsale and pretty much start loving.
 
Rush Limbaugh is a racist hate spewing asshole. "Now its the white kids getting beaten up on the bus... this is what happens in Obama's America!" -- Rush.
 
YoungHav said:
Rush Limbaugh is a racist hate spewing asshole. "Now its the white kids getting beaten up on the bus... this is what happens in Obama's America!" -- Rush.

But the context! Won't someone please think of the context?!
 
The problem with the argument of "context" and "you just don't get him" is quiet simple. Lets be honest the general IQ of people who would be swayed by rush analysis is not very high, and these type of people wouldn't understand cintext if it hit them straight in the face. This was pretty evident in last years election as well as during the health care debate. People would just spew out ruah talking point without having any clue what they are talking about. Personally i find any talkshow or tv personality who acts in such manner irresponsible.

I dont mind opposition infact i welcome it, however it must be accompanied by thoughtful and intelligent discussion, and not a talking point barrage.


Excuse any typos im on my iphone
 
The only point of contention I'll make with people who call Kennedy a murderer (I'll even allow that, even if it's not technically correct) is the ridiculous supposition that she could have been saved if only...

And could a Rush-apologist please explain away the Michael J. Fox thing? I'd really love to hear how that was misconstrued through my liberal ears.
 
Pimpwerx said:
Hate speech. Don't be so damn obtuse. What exactly is the uplifting or positive elements of Rush Limbaugh's show? Even Rush knows he's getting rich peddling hate. Why can't you? PEACE.

what's so hard to understand about my posts in this thread? my point has been crystal clear, and you're acting like i'm defending the man. so i'll go over it again quickly. rush limbaugh is not a good person. he is many -ists. listening to him is a waste of time because it's the same ol establishment republican talking points that you can get from hannity and o'reilly, mixed in with hate speech. but he's not the worst person in the world. he doesn't deserve to die. so my point is that all the bloodlust in this thread is sheer lunacy, and a fine example of fake liberalism. if this was dick cheney, i could see it.

adamsappel said:
The only point of contention I'll make with people who call Kennedy a murderer (I'll even allow that, even if it's not technically correct)

i didn't call him a murderer, i called him guilty of negligible homicide. if he wasn't driving drunk, they wouldn't have crashed, and since he neglected to even try to save her, he is guilty of the charge.

is the ridiculous supposition that she could have been saved if only...

i did not put that forward, although i've heard from some sources that she was alive in the car for hours. true or not, the fact that he didn't even try shows what kind of morals he had, i.e. none

And could a Rush-apologist

and you're a ted kennedy apologist. i can't think of what's worse, spinning for roman polanski or spinning for "teddy"
 
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