Communism. Alcohol was the only fun allowed. It became a pretty large part of the East Bloc's identity. It's all about getting your next inebriated buzz.
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Russian bath lotion kills 62 people
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Thanks for the info, clears things up
Damn. Yeah that's not going to change any time soon then.
fabricated backlash
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When i was a kid, i knew an old guy that was drinking disinfectant alcohol, because it was cheaper and more potent than grappa.
This shit isn't isolated to russia, it happens in many places where poverty is rampant.
This shit isn't isolated to russia, it happens in many places where poverty is rampant.
Immaculate
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fuck why did i do this
SuperEpicMan
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Whyyyyyyy
Lonewolf_92
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Thing is, that stuff is easier to steal than a bottle of cheap alcohol, even in Russia. I'm surprised they don't have people cooking up bathtub gin and moonshine, but I could see these people lacking even the bathtub (or a bathroom) to cook it in, or the ability to get the materials together to build the equipment needed or the supplies to convert to alcohol.
I live in the US and I've worked around the homeless for a bit (tearing down homeless camps, to be specific) and have heard of some of them stealing stuff like mouthwash and cooking alcohol to feed their problem/self-medicate.
Also it used to be common for less trustworthy types to cut very low grade wine and moonshine with antifreeze.
CarpeDeezNutz
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How much do you think a bottle of cheap vodka is?
Conciliator
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Jesus shit. get these poor people some vodka.
stan423321
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Well, we got the guy with the numbers above: 10 times more than the substitute.
Remember, one bottle will not satisfy anyone used to a crate of bottles per night.
Harry Stewart
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It's funny how my Russian family is treating this as a tragedy while having absolutely no sympathy for drug addicts and thinking they deserve to die of AIDS or whatever comes to them. Russia's attitudes towards addiction are so fucked.
CarpeDeezNutz
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Fallout-NL
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Fuck, and I had just managed to forget about Krokodil.
Yeah,me too.
Russia needs its own metric:
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/wealth-inequality-levels-in-russia-among-highest-worldwide-28445
Looks like Russia under the Tsars.
OT: not surprised. Years ago the Russian health ministry ran a campaign to get parents to give their kids beer instead of vodka. Successive Soviet leaders tried addressing the issue as well, to varying degrees on failure.
OfficerRaichu15
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Really terrible to hear.
Sadly I feel russia will not try to solve this issue and only let it get worse and worse.
Sadly I feel russia will not try to solve this issue and only let it get worse and worse.
Let me check I've got this right - this "Bath Lotion" stuff is intended for drinking, right? Like, they say it isn't so they don't have to obey licensing rules, but the intent is clear as hell.
So I'm wondering how poison got in to this drinking product...
So I'm wondering how poison got in to this drinking product...
Shake Appeal
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I mean the whole country is a massive kleptocracy funneling money up to Putin, so...
Herr Schwarz
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In Siberia the land mass is about the size of North America. And I must say you have to be a hard man to live out there.
I was watching that Werner Herzog docunentary about Russian trappers in an extremely remote village in Siberia.
Great documentary they seem to ignore/ the govt wholesale. Self reliance seems to be a common trait.
But Siberia seems like a harsh place to live and if you're poor as fuck and lack modern amenities to keep yourself warm and lack money for real vodka... Then you get these problems.
Indigenous tribes also same kind of treatment if not worse than American ones. Lots of drunks with no real paths except the circular one they've been running for years.
I was watching that Werner Herzog docunentary about Russian trappers in an extremely remote village in Siberia.
Great documentary they seem to ignore/ the govt wholesale. Self reliance seems to be a common trait.
But Siberia seems like a harsh place to live and if you're poor as fuck and lack modern amenities to keep yourself warm and lack money for real vodka... Then you get these problems.
Indigenous tribes also same kind of treatment if not worse than American ones. Lots of drunks with no real paths except the circular one they've been running for years.
Patrick S.
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Was this a bad batch of a product that was already available before, or is this a new product that immediately killed all these people?
thehypocrite
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Poor comrades.
Yep.
Can't say for sure. People die from drinking surrogate alcohol all the time, it just never been on this scale before. And you know our state media isn't the most trustworthy source of information out there and there's already conflicting reports on whether all deaths were caused by methanol poisoning or if there also was something else.
Simplest possible version: someone was making this stuff illegaly, got a batch of cheap methanol thinking it was ethanol, didn't check/care and simply used it in production.
Conspiracy theory: Putin has made a statement recently that the reason people bought this stuff is because it's cheap, so let's just raise excise tax for all alcohol based products that are not classified as alcohol beverages which is an idea that was proposed recently. Doing that, however, will affect the prices for stuff like cosmetics or household cleaning goods.
Meanwhile they've added a restriction to selling most popular herbal medicine with alcohol in it: you can only sell 2 of them to 1 customer and only by day. They're also doing raids on stores that sell alcohol now, checking their licenses etc.
chromatic9
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Not sure myself. Probably some form of bubble bath.
Holy shit at Krokodil.
I have heard of the odd teen drinking methylated spirits but damn Russia. I feel sick thinking about drinking window cleaner.
HellforLeather
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There are still speakeasys and juke joints around here
If I lived in Russia, I'd probably want to be drunk all the time too.
I dunno, the common myth (truth?) in Russia is that people who drink live longer than people who don't, due to the overall stress of living there. Take it with a grain of salt but hey.
SapientWolf
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I don't think this stuff was ever intended to be methylated.
scotcheggz
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They drink perfume as a cheap alternative... Does that mean in Russia if I dowse myself in Vodka I will get all the ladies!?
I don't understand this.
I don't understand this.
Herr Schwarz
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That makes sense though I doubt they got the science to back it up the logic is real. Stress kills!
You can still drink lasol once it gets cold enough as the poisonous stuff freezes before the alcohol does. Though you have to be quite far down the drain to drink that. Most "professionals" just get a bottle of Gambina (basically the shit with most pure alcohol per euro) or something from Alko.
CarpeDeezNutz
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When you are drinking rubbing alcohol or mouthwash you just got to stop and think maybe my relationship with booze is toxic.
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