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[-Eddman-]

If only something like this could happen in my dear Mexico... A liberal country and a conservative country.

That's what I like about Europe, they don't eat up shit like forced union and nationalism "for the benefit of everyone". Things could get interesting over there if the EU ultimately fails.

 

[jerry1594]

If only something like this could happen in my dear Mexico... A liberal country and a conservative country.

That's what I like about Europe, they don't eat up shit like forced union and nationalism "for the benefit of everyone". Things could get interesting over there if the EU ultimately fails.

Fuck that shit Mexico is fine how it is.

 

[Kabouter]

bollocks, everyone knows holland will sink beneath the waves by then.

Did you not get the message last century? We are better than the sea.

 

[Kurtofan]

If only something like this could happen in my dear Mexico... A liberal country and a conservative country.

That's what I like about Europe, they don't eat up shit like forced union and nationalism "for the benefit of everyone". Things could get interesting over there if the EU ultimately fails.

Interesting means really bad most of the time in Europe.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

United Ireland, Scotland, Spain Changes. I'm ok with this.

You're not one of those "pan celtic nationalist" wankers are you?

 

[Kabouter]

Interesting means really bad most of the time in Europe.

I struggle to think of exceptions.

 

[Fragamemnon]

Did you not get the message last century? We are better than the sea.

I'm still annoyed that the Delta Works aren't a buildable Wonder in Civ, and instead we get repressive stuff like the Great Firewall instead.

 

[jerry1594]

Interesting means really bad most of the time in Europe.

Uneducated Mexican American here. Could you provide a synopsis of the geopolitical situation in Europe and what countries would actually benefit from a change in borders?

 

[Desmond]

You're not one of those "pan celtic nationalist" wankers are you?

FREE CORNWALL AND BRITTANY, lol

No, I'm not.

 

[-Eddman-]

Interesting means really bad most of the time in Europe.

Well, yeah, sorry for the bad choice of words. It would be interesting in terms of geopolitical and social studies. But of course, horrible for most of the people because of the economic turmoil.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

You're not one of those "pan celtic nationalist" wankers are you?

Look, sovereign nations should be decided by romantic notions of the population that may or may not have been there a thousand or more years ago.

 

[Speedymanic]

They seem pretty confident Scotland will vote for independence. Don't see it happening personally, but you never know.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Did you not get the message last century? We are better than the sea.

Don't you understand kabouter, the muslim Asylum seekers will suicide bomb your seaworks, drowning your sinful nation in spectacular biblical fashion!

 

[SLV]

FUCK them and their map, they will only get donkey ears and not Latgale !

 

[MjFrancis]

Playing with maps is fun (practically a prerequisite for buying any Paradox game, no?) but this map is bananas.

So just about every country in Europe fractures into smaller bits like their feudal ancestors save for Russia and Germany. Will the 2050 map reflect another War on the Eastern Front?

 

[Death Dealer]

They seem pretty confident Scotland will vote for independence. Don't see it happening personally, but you never know.

Are you from Scotland ? I'm not. But my perception is they want independence from England. So if I were betting, I'd say they do vote for it. But I could be misjudging the sentiment since I'm not a local.

 

[Lonely1]

Playing with maps is fun (practically a prerequisite for buying any Paradox game, no?) but this map is bananas.

So just about every country in Europe fractures into smaller bits like their feudal ancestors save for Russia and Germany. Will the 2050 map reflect another War on the Eastern Front?

Try 2070-2080.

 

[-Eddman-]

Fuck that shit Mexico is fine how it is.

I don't know man, lots of unnecessary tension among people with growing political and social changes. Maybe I'm a bit paranoid about it, but I think the recent events in the country could lead to more violence, but this time people vs. people, not crime vs. people.

 

[phisheep]

lol Wales.

I think having the Russians forget we exist is probably a pretty good place to be.

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

I can't picture Itally ever wanting to divide into two different nations.

 

[Sylver]

First spanish independent country will be this november or the next march if finally euskadi do not anticipate the elections when Bildu wins it.

 

[Kabouter]

Don't you understand kabouter, the muslim Asylum seekers will suicide bomb your seaworks, drowning your sinful nation in spectacular biblical fashion!

Psssh, current problems with Muslims will go away over time as people slowly pull their heads out of their asses. And we're still doing thangs with regards to engineering.

I'm still annoyed that the Delta Works aren't a buildable Wonder in Civ, and instead we get repressive stuff like the Great Firewall instead.

Just not well known and 'sexy' enough I guess :/. All the other wonders they use/have used are really famous the world over. Outside of the Netherlands, it's mostly just engineers who are familiar with them.

I can't picture Itally ever wanting to divide into two different nations.

Neither can I, but then, this map has many more issues than just its estimation of Italy's future.

 

[xenist]

Try 2070-2080.

What the hell is this?

 

[Kurtofan]

Try 2070-2080.
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"antifa" with islamists lol says it all about the guy who made this.

 

[Kabouter]

What the hell is this?

Either a joke or dumb unfounded xenophobic bullshit.

 

[jerry1594]

I don't know man, lots of unnecessary tension among people with growing political and social changes. Maybe I'm a bit paranoid about it, but I think the recent events in the country could lead to more violence, but this time people vs. people, not crime vs. people.

How do you gather that? Seems to me the only place in Mexico that has wanted to secede since the revolution is the Central American states.

 

[Tacitus_]

Try 2070-2080.
http://i.imgur.com/zmZzO.png

Caliphate of Sweden? :lol

 

[Alx]

Yeah the Islamic state in the south of France is the craziest claim here... smaller regions gaining independance is unlikely for most, but at least there is something there, and countries splitting could happen. But Cannes and Monaco in an islamic state ? Come on...

 

[Lonely1]

Either a joke or dumb unfounded xenophobic bullshit.

I believe is based on the scenario 'predicted' by Breivik.

 

[Dark Octave]

I read Russia "snatching" up part of Europe in the OP. It would be awesome if they are saying that all of Europe will be Russian owned and controlled by 2035. Super troll shit right there.

 

[Tacitus_]

I believe is based on the scenario 'predicted' by Breivik.

Well there's "Knights Templar" on the European side >.>

 

[Subitai]

Yeah, here's another map a Russian "expert" came with with during the housing crisis.

According to him this is what America would look like in 2010. :lol

Looks like they thought about it, but not as much as they could as many states would get split. Like I know here in PA the state would get split at least into east and west. If things split up, they're going to really get re-bordered into places where cultural views are very similar and do not vary.

 

[Kurtofan]

Yeah the Islamic state in the south of France is the craziest claim here... smaller regions gaining independance is unlikely for most, but at least there is something there, and countries splitting could happen. But Cannes and Monaco in an islamic state ? Come on...

In 2026, Prince Albert II converts to Islam and becomes Sultan of Monaco.

I believe is based on the scenario 'predicted' by Breivik.

Damn, that's pretty scary to think that thousands people at least think like that in Europe.That shit could have come from any far right organization.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Psssh, current problems with Muslims will go away over time as people slowly pull their heads out of their asses. And we're still doing thangs with regards to engineering.

What's the next plan, seperating your country from the european landmass and floating it around the atlantic? A dutch island super galleon bristling with guns, trade ports and copious cargo space? it'll be like the golden age again!

 

[Jb]

The collapse of multiculturalism will start in France. Unable to assimilate various former colonial ethnicity of different colors, it will have to resort to their deportation. High concentration is Islamic groups will pave a way for a rise of Islamic Arabic state in southern France. Lorraine on federal basis will join Germany.

HAHAHAHAHA

"Experts", yeah right. Maybe Hollywood actress will have to wear a hijab for the Cannes film festival? What about Monaco?

 

[Funky Papa]

Yeah, I stopped reading there

They been pulling this "alternate Europe" bullshit for a long ass time. This may be the fifth time I've seen a Russian made map showing the disintegration of Europe into some hilariously cathaclismic mess. Must be some kind of wet dream for Russian analists.

 

[Kurdel]

"What can happen, will happen" logic is astounding.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

netherlands belgium I could see that, that's dropping the french bit though right?

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Try 2070-2080.
[IMG ] http://i.imgur.com/zmZzO.png[/IMG]

"Paramilitary forces:
Knights Templar"

lol

 

[Jay Sosa]

What? No Portugaliza? Fanfic fail.

Isn't Portugal just some province of Spain?

 

[GungHo]

Yeah, here's another map a Russian "expert" came with with during the housing crisis.

According to him this is what America would look like in 2010. :lol

It looks like the old Shadowrun maps. Also, we don't want Louisiana. Or Arkansas.

 

[-Eddman-]

How do you gather that? Seems to me the only place in Mexico that has wanted to secede since the revolution is the Central American states.

A lot of municipalities in the South and in states like Michoacán and Guerrero have been fighting for their autonomy for years. The Zapatista movement, for example, supported some of these communities in the 90's.

This year, the municipality of Cherán did not want to have presidential elections in protest for the mass killings and kidnapping of local activists. Also this year, the community of Capilla de Guadalupe in Jalisco is fighting for their right to separate from the Tepatitlán municipality.

 

[volturnus]

''The collapse of multiculturalism will start in France. Unable to assimilate various former colonial ethnicity of different colors, it will have to resort to their deportation. High concentration is Islamic groups will pave a way for a rise of Islamic Arabic state in southern France. ''

This is the most likely.
Also Corsica will become independent during/after such collapse IMO, since pro-independence parties there already have a majority in public support.

 

[Derrick01]

Someone notify the russians that crusader kings II is not an accurate portrayal of history.

 

[Jay Sosa]

It looks like the old Shadowrun maps. Also, we don't want Louisiana. Or Arkansas.

you're just afraid they're gonna kick you're ass in college football. SEC SEC!

 

[Scipius]

netherlands belgium I could see that, that's dropping the french bit though right?

Generally it is though that, in the event of a Belgian separation, it''s more likely that the French-speaking part joins up with France than the Dutch-speaking part joining up with the Netherlands.

That's just one of the issues. Still, I would say whoever made it could apply for a job at THQ for Homefront 3.

 

[jerry1594]

A lot of municipalities in the South and in states like Michoacán and Guerrero have been fighting for their autonomy for years. The Zapatista movement, for example, supported some of these communities in the 90's.

This year, the municipality of Cherán did not want to have presidential elections in protest for the mass killings and kidnapping of local activists. Also this year, the community of Capilla de Guadalupe in Jalisco is fighting for their right to separate from the Tepatitlán municipality.

Lol, so parts of municipalities wanting to break away and abstaining due to drug violence means that the country will break apart? Tabasco will be claimed by the ocean before any of that happens.

 

[danwarb]

What Russian experts would like, but so very unrealistic.

 

[WorriedCitizen]

I can see some of this stuff happening. Not within such a short time frame tho, especially France falling apart. Ther's no way Germany getting back parts from Poland and Russia either. Apart from a couple neonazis i don't even think many people would want it back. How's this supposed to work economicaly and culturally?

 

[BeesEight]

So how would Russia be broken up? I suspect Japan would seize easternmost Siberia and China would engulf Mongolia and Central Asian Siberia.

I'm assuming this is a joke, but I'll respond to it anyway.

Most countries in the modern era are not focused on Empire building anymore. Japan is in zero position to be seizing anything with them lacking an official military force, still technically existing as an occupied nation and with enough internal political and economic issues that foreign conquest is probably the furthest from the minds of all but the most fervent nationalist. Economically, politically and culturally there is no push to expand their borders.

And this would apply to almost every other nation. Possibly China and Russia still have delusions of grand military conquests, but even what little I've heard of China's internal politicking I suspect they wouldn't have any serious interests in expanding their borders.

The political climate has changed with international bodies like the U.N. and the education and global connectivity of citizens. I just don't see physical conquest as a truly viable method over diplomatic or economic avenues.

Possibly things like Scotland seeking independence through a referendum are feasible, but I don't think they're economically stable enough to even seek that route. Italy certainly doesn't have the political infrastructure to handle their current political issues let alone the difficulties of foreign diplomacy and restructuring that a split of their nation would cause.

The Muslim stuff is just laughable.