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Ryse: Son of Rome Launch Trailer

Any assumption that all previews about this game's combat have been negative are highly delusioinal at best, and it showcases your own biases every bit as much as you believe my own opinion showcases bias, which I wouldn't disagree that it does since I'm so damn excited about this game. However, I'm excited based on a game that I think looks pretty fucking awesome in terms of story, gameplay, art and overall production value, and I have no qualms whatsoever with saying that.

The difference between myself and some of my critics is that I actually acknowledge that negative impressions exist. People that only want to bad mouth the game or cling to things that they think further their own view, practically never acknowledge that positive impressions of this game's combat exist. We even have gaffers here that have played it themselves, and have come away impressed, but we also have some that have come away not liking what they've played, but the idea that everything about this game combat and gameplay wise is universally negative is pretty much fantasy. There are people who hated this game at E3 and Gamescom that have entirely flipped their opinions on the game.

Everything I've read seems to showcases this as a highly repetitive and shallow game, and that includes the positive reactions. Even the one given to me in this thread that explains the improvements to combat only go as far as to suggest this game is like the combat from Arkham City with a twist and nothing much else to it.

It's cool you're hyped, I like being hyped, but you seem like you've made up your mind whatever happens.
 
This is bound to be the most divisively reviewed game in years. Impressions have been all over the map. I see 3s and 9s incoming.

With the game as pretty as it is and the amount of PR money MS has sunk into it, it is hard to believe Crytek could screw up the combat engine enough to sink the game. Guess we'll see on Thursday.

I think it will be somewhat divisive, but I don't expect anything in the realm of say Beyond, which really was all over the map.
 
Reviews are opinions from people no different from any of us. The only difference is they get to play the games before we do. They aren't somehow professionals who are more qualified than myself or anyone else here to judge a game's quality. Half the time you listen to these guys talk on a stream, and you end up concluding that you don't want to hear their opinions on much of anything, but I'm going to let what these same individuals write dictate to me the overall quality or merits of a game? Especially when half the time these guys are either barely average at, or have zero interest in, playing the games they're expected to review.

I played Knack at a friend's house and enjoyed it quite a bit more than reviews implied I should have. Even my friend liked it, and I would have bet 10 times out of 10 times that he wouldn't like that game, but he does. I pay attention to reviews simply out of curiosity, but I never expect them to tell me with any accuracy how good or bad a game truly is, because there's just way too many important variables involved with that, and not everybody has the same taste. I play a game and beat it, or either play as much as I can stand to play, and then I draw an opinion. If the game is important enough in my eyes, I then read reviews about that game afterwards to see which agrees with me the most, whether my opinion be negative or positive. That's how I treat reviews. If I used reviews to dictate to me which games were worth my time, from which ones weren't, I would have probably quite gaming a long time ago solely on the basis of boredom. There are too many biases and questionable loyalties to trust what such a small number of people have to say on a particular subject, and this is every bit as true for positive reviews as it is for negative ones.

Perfectly said! But sadly mainstream media affects the mass consumer (under them I mean the buyer who can't really form an opinion of his/her own).
 
Saw this comment on another site and slightly modified it. Not hating on the game, just thought it was funny.

My name is Quickius Timeius Eventius, commander of the Armies of the Xbone, General of the Kinect Legions, loyal servant to the true Emperor, Don Mattrick. Father to a murdered Family Sharing Policy, Husband to a murdered DRM Policy. And I will have my vengeance, in this console generation or the next.
 
Saw this comment on another site and slightly modified it. Not hating on the game, just thought it was funny.

My name is Quickius Timeius Eventius, commander of the Armies of the Xbone, General of the Kinect Legions, loyal servant to the true Emperor, Don Mattrick. Father to a murdered Family Sharing Policy, Husband to a murdered DRM Policy. And I will have my vengeance, in this console generation or the next.

Made me lol hard.

Anyway, great trailer. Graphically sublime. Be interesting to see how the gameplay graphics hold up to the cut scene graphics when all is said and done. Because they're pushing the cut scene stuff considerably more than the actual gameplay.
 
Made me lol hard.

Anyway, great trailer. Graphically sublime. Be interesting to see how the gameplay graphics hold up to the cut scene graphics when all is said and done. Because they're pushing the cut scene stuff considerably more than the actual gameplay.

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do we know if by ingame cutscenes they mean realtime too? Guess we'll know eventually. Gameplay is still the weakest link between elements here (aside from the story, which we don't know that much about... unless we count some spoilers given the dialog).

I'd say most are real-time if not all. They've been changing things in these cut-scenes along with gameplay, upping effects and texture quality. It transitions straight into gameplay often.
 
And what is your problem?

Not literally. But its the same thing.

My problem is people needlessly shitting up this thread with those type of comments. Do you realize I could sit here and point out a dozen movie trailers Mass Effect 2 ripped off?

Stop this weak argument.
 
Why is this embargoed until Thursday? The only reason I can think is that it has scored poorly overall, and MS are trying damage control. It wouldn't make sense to censor the media if it had scored well in reviews.
 
Everything I've read seems to showcases this as a highly repetitive and shallow game, and that includes the positive reactions. Even the one given to me in this thread that explains the improvements to combat only go as far as to suggest this game is like the combat from Arkham City with a twist and nothing much else to it.

It's cool you're hyped, I like being hyped, but you seem like you've made up your mind whatever happens.

It's OK to be excited for and even enjoy games that get shit on. I can tell just by looking at it that I will enjoy the game as well. I imagine it's the same for him.
 
Good trailer, gorgeous game.

I have a few beefs though.

Why is it so hard to create realistic looking female characters that don't look like a zombie? The male characters look terrific, but the female character.... not so much.

I also hate that it appears the enemy AI surrounds you, but take turns attacking you. I hate when games do this, have them bum rush you, why would they sit back and watch you fight and wait for their turn to be slaughtered.

The eye candy alone makes me dig this, though.
 
Erm no? Not only is the rain missing, but also the rain drops on the camera.

I know rain is a big topic here on gaf after the killzone debacle, but i just watched the Ryse launch trailer on my calibrated plasma and the rain is still there despite the horrible compression.
 
If only the gameplay was good as Shadow of Rome, I would be impressed. I've been longing for another good Rome/Gladiator game.
 
I know rain is a big topic here on gaf after the killzone debacle, but i just watched the Ryse launch trailer on my calibrated plasma and the rain is still there despite the horrible compression.

I'm just nitpicking
And screwing with KKRT00
, the game looks fantastic, but it was clearly toned down. You can see it much easily on the other video that's equally compressed.
Its less visible, because the scene is much brighter, its there, its even on Your shot.

This scene is follow up of this cutscene and there is also visible rain here.
http://i.imgur.com/5UcTjau.jpg
There is no rain in that shot either...
 
We've already seen cut-scenes transition directly into game-play without a camera cut.

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Uncharted does that in a few spots, but most cutscenes are still pre-rendered.

Though I doubt pre-rendered cutscenes are going to be a huge problem this gen. If games use them they have enough room in a blu-ray to not make them look incredibly crappy like most pre-rendered stuff are on the 360 and PS3, so it's a non-issue anyway.
 
Everything I've read seems to showcases this as a highly repetitive and shallow game, and that includes the positive reactions. Even the one given to me in this thread that explains the improvements to combat only go as far as to suggest this game is like the combat from Arkham City with a twist and nothing much else to it.

It's cool you're hyped, I like being hyped, but you seem like you've made up your mind whatever happens.

That's how I pick up games, man. I read up on it as much as I can, but more than anything, I watch the footage myself and try to come to a conclusion as to whether or not I feel good about buying it. Ryse has convinced me quite a few times over that it's worth my time. How good it really ends up being I won't have any idea until I get the game, but I feel pretty good about giving it a chance. Whenever I've felt this good about a game, I've never regretted it.

Either way, I respect whatever opinion anyone else has on the matter, so I won't be spending too much time discussing the validity of those opinions. Your own view should always take priority over what anyone else thinks, because yours is the only one that matters when you're spending you're hard earned dollars. I just personally can't wait to get my hands on it and see if my excitement is justified. I suspect it will be. The iffiest aspect of the game for me currently are how those ranged sections will end up working out, and if they may end up feeling too tacked on and detract too much from the overall experience. That right now is my biggest concern. The rest I feel pretty good about.
 
So what are people actually expecting from this?

Great graphics are a given.

Story? We thinking gladiator? Or the eagle starring Channing Tatum?

Gameplay/combat? We thinking batman/assassins creed? Or one of those batman wannabe's like remember me...maybe something worse/more repetative?

Game length? An epic? Or a short story?
 
What have you seen that has convinced you this is going to be a terrible game?

It's Crytek.

I've tried to avoid anything associated with this game to not spoil anything, but I'm going to bet there's some supernatural stuff going on.

Plus they suck at making games. Their FPS are terrible, and they actually have experience with FPS. I don't have much faith in them to make a good game in a genre they're not experienced in.
 
That's how I pick up games, man. I read up on it as much as I can, but more than anything, I watch the footage myself and try to come to a conclusion as to whether or not I feel good about buying it. Ryse has convinced me quite a few times over that it's worth my time. How good it really ends up being I won't have any idea until I get the game, but I feel pretty good about giving it a chance. Whenever I've felt this good about a game, I've never regretted it.

Either way, I respect whatever opinion anyone else has on the matter, so I won't be spending too much time discussing the validity of those opinions. Your own view should always take priority over what anyone else thinks, because yours is the only one that matters when you're spending you're hard earned dollars. I just personally can't wait to get my hands on it and see if my excitement is justified. I suspect it will be. The iffiest aspect of the game for me currently are how those ranged sections will end up working out, and if they may end up feeling too tacked on and detract too much from the overall experience. That right now is my biggest concern. The rest I feel pretty good about.

Well, that put me in my place. I absolutely hope it lives up to your exceptions.
 
My brain is telling me that this game won't be fun but weirdly I still want to play this. I love the period, even if they fucking 300'd the Goths.

Story looks about as historically accurate as Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter but if it's fun who cares. Looking forward to reviews.

My big issue is that I can see the combat getting repetitive but again do want to go get my hands on it. And it is Crytek so the pedigree for making enjoyable games isn't the best.
 
The game will probably be average overall, like 6's and 7's but every console launch has 1 game that you have to buy to show off your system and this is it.
 
It's Crytek.

I've tried to avoid anything associated with this game to not spoil anything, but I'm going to bet there's some supernatural stuff going on.

Plus they suck at making games. Their FPS are terrible, and they actually have experience with FPS. I don't have much faith in them to make a good game in a genre they're not experienced in.

Crytek should stick to making engines, they make dreadfully boring games.

Ryse is a feast for the eyes, so at least there's that.
 
Reviews for Ryse lift on Thursday.

Why have some games already been reviewed and others haven't? Are they worried about it being reviewed or something? It's sort of strange that specifically this and Forza haven't been reviewed yet - I would have imagined that Forza will end up as the best reviewed exclusive out of either system.
 
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