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Söldner-X: Himmelsstürmer (PS3 2D-Shoot 'em up) ~first trailer~
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inpHilltr8r
Member
Looks like it could be fun, but yeah, not digging the rendered 2d.
J_Mourinho
Member
Well judging by the video its one of the crappiest and messy shooters I've seen. 20 years on and we still can't design a shmup in the west that gives the impression its been thought out. Why bother designing a level when you can simply fill the screen full of non stop effects and identikit enemy's.
They should have called it Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy 2. Honestly what a load of old crap this is going to be.
They should have called it Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy 2. Honestly what a load of old crap this is going to be.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
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Damn you're hard on her. I for one can't wait.
Damn you're hard on her. I for one can't wait.
natureman3
Banned
It just made me think i need a remake of those on the psn :
- Xenon 2 (but only if reone by magic Malone)
- Einhander (one of the top 3 all time shoot by square)
- X-out : it was made by a certain rainbow arts > factor 5 > Lair flop > they need some quick cash > publish it on psn.
- Raystorm (fantastic one from ps1...)
- Xenon 2 (but only if reone by magic Malone)
- Einhander (one of the top 3 all time shoot by square)
- X-out : it was made by a certain rainbow arts > factor 5 > Lair flop > they need some quick cash > publish it on psn.
- Raystorm (fantastic one from ps1...)
Looked really inmpressive until I saw the trailer. I hope they change the color of either the explosions or the bullets because at the moment they're practically indistinguishable. I can see why one of the previous posters said it looked messy, not in graphics but how the action is laid out.
The graphics though look amazing. Finally we've reached a point to where 2.5d doesn't look like a polygonal mess and has a distictive artstyle like the old days. Looking foward to picking this one up.
The graphics though look amazing. Finally we've reached a point to where 2.5d doesn't look like a polygonal mess and has a distictive artstyle like the old days. Looking foward to picking this one up.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
While we're at it throw in G-Darius, Raycrisis, and Philosoma.cicatriz said:
Riskbreaker23
Member
any news on when this game is actually going to come out?
OnWarmerMusic
Member
Christoff Yurievich
Member
watching the videos, I was a bit distracted by the "invincible" flashing at the top of the screen. :lol
Watched the 720p trailer and it looked nice though.
Watched the 720p trailer and it looked nice though.
OnWarmerMusic
Member
PA has the PC version listed for December 14th, PS3 supposedly releases Q1 2008.Firewire said:
It looks good in those pictures, not so much in the video. An example of horrible horribleness is the lightning gun, it looks like laffy taffy lightning. The game has a plastic toy look to it that I don't like but who cares? It's about the gameplay right? I can't really tell from those videos if it's fun or not so I'm hoping it'll be good.
The Mighty Schwein
Member
Wow, are some of you easily impressed or what? Have you not played a shmup in the last 10 years? I had high hopes for this game.. I watched the trailer and I thought....
"This is the best looking flash game I've ever seen."
Looks like play asia is attempting to cash in on starving shmup fans. They've seen how those fairly mediocre (with exceptions) Dreamcast releases sell out in a flash and want a piece of the action. Will they succeed though? Unless it plays a lot better than it looks then even die hard shmup fans are going to find this to be a tough pill to swallow at $50 or more.
Hell, Gradius V was only $30 at release and it's one of the best in the genre bar none.
Or, look at the upcoming Omega Five for XBLA. It's a shmup (of the Forgotten Worlds/Trouble Shooter variety) that looks decent and is sure to be only $10-15.
"This is the best looking flash game I've ever seen."
Looks like play asia is attempting to cash in on starving shmup fans. They've seen how those fairly mediocre (with exceptions) Dreamcast releases sell out in a flash and want a piece of the action. Will they succeed though? Unless it plays a lot better than it looks then even die hard shmup fans are going to find this to be a tough pill to swallow at $50 or more.
Hell, Gradius V was only $30 at release and it's one of the best in the genre bar none.
Or, look at the upcoming Omega Five for XBLA. It's a shmup (of the Forgotten Worlds/Trouble Shooter variety) that looks decent and is sure to be only $10-15.
OnWarmerMusic
Member
I think it's really a matter of expectations, at least as far as graphics. For me, Omega Five definitely looks like the more polished title, and I'll be getting that Day One also, but I get the feeling there's more experience on the dev team over at Natsume than there is at... whoever is developing Soldner.The Mighty Schwein said:
Gameplay's a different story of course, and I wouldn't knock either title until I'd played them. I'm just optimistic that Soldner will turn out to be a fun game. Is it worth $50 for the super-deluxe version to find out? Well... that might be pushing it. I just hope that the PSN price will be comparable to O5's.
As for PA taking advantage of the shmup-playing DC crowd, can you really fault them? As long as the game plays well, they can "take advantage" of me all they want.
So you have pretty much no standards for the genre, then, right? Some people might have higher expectations for even pre-release footage. I don't blame them for giving up on it.
I'd be amazed if this is even as good as Last Hope, to be honest. Soldner-X looks like a shooter developed by someone who hasn't played many shooters in the past eight or nine years.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
I'm a lil' pissed off about the resolution support, or total lack thereof:
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1280 x 1024Arpharmd B
Banned
Definitely not a fan of the art direction. The ship looks like a flacid penis with wings.
This game fucking sucks Omega Five is much better. I got the full game and the powerups you get are the most ridiculous I seen in shmup because THERE ARENT ANY!!!. You start off firing puny little bullets that you have no way to upgrade (or if you can it takes a hella long time cause I went through most of the first stage still firing the crappy little gun that made it ridiculously frustrating and shitty). Its like those old shooters like Gradius where you start off with a shitty weapon but in this case you're stuck with that shitty weapon which you cannot upgrade it really is that bad. Oh yeah and how friggin useless is that lightning gun? It looks cool when you use it but it hardly does any damage either! Whoever did the weapons to this needs to be shot most awful power ups (or lack of) I ever seen.
The music is nice however.
The music is nice however.
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Arpharmd B
Banned
RiverBed said:
I fixed definitely. I dunno how to spell flacid , so I changed it to limp.
pancakesandsex
Member
The game has a fairly complex upgrade system. You need to increase your chain to upgrade. Kill stuff till the bar in the bottom right increases past the line, then switch weapons, then repeat. If you do this enough times, you release a powerup. The number of times changes the more you release.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
The game, while pretty (despite lack of support for more common, high resolutions) isn't that good IMO.
Some color blending issues w/ some of the bullets (green blobs on stage 1 come to mind). I just didn't find myself having fun while playing it.
Some color blending issues w/ some of the bullets (green blobs on stage 1 come to mind). I just didn't find myself having fun while playing it.
pancakesandsex
Member
DaCocoBrova said:
It's a pretty different style than what i'm used to, and i havent hit that groove with it yet where i can really excel, but i like it so far. Its def. not perfect though.
I dunno i just didnt get a good feeling when shooting enemies it felt like i was a pea shooting tiny pellets and being overwhelmed by enemies who needed A LOT MORE hits than your average shooter. It just wasnt that satisfying and you dont feel like a badass or powerful with kickass weapons like in other shooters such as Rtype or Einhander (because there arent any weapons in this stupid game, thats like one of the basics that you set out to do ).
They should just make a Einhander 2 in HD. That game had the perfect mix of balance with weapons, cool bosses, fantastic soundtrack, perfect difficulty. Was challenging but not in a stupid 'millions of bullets on screen' kinda way that most shmup developers these days think is a good way to make it more difficult when it really isnt and actually worsens the game. UN Squadron or Space Megaforce aka Super Aleste were fantastic too.
They should just make a Einhander 2 in HD. That game had the perfect mix of balance with weapons, cool bosses, fantastic soundtrack, perfect difficulty. Was challenging but not in a stupid 'millions of bullets on screen' kinda way that most shmup developers these days think is a good way to make it more difficult when it really isnt and actually worsens the game. UN Squadron or Space Megaforce aka Super Aleste were fantastic too.
virtuafightermaster
Banned
I asked the developer why there is no XBLA release. One of them replied, the main reason being the download limit of 150MB. I think MS should stop the downloading limit BS now.