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[Ogrekiller]

Durp durp liberate Iraq! amirite?

Rite! Darfur? None of our business dude!

 

[Rikyfree]

Korean Conflict 2: Kim Harder.

 

[Mully]

I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid

So you were serving your country and not hoping for war as well? Gimmie a fucking break. You believe in possibly the stupidest shit and then try to back that up with absolute bullshit. Then you have enough balls to pretty much hope for war. You're a fucking joke and an eyesore to this forum.

Go back to AboveTopSecret where people will actually believe your bullshit.

 

[Lost Fragment]

So what thread did Wii get junior'd for anyway?

 

[NotWii]

So you were serving your country and not hoping for war as well? Gimmie a fucking break. You believe in possibly the stupidest shit and then try to back that up with absolute bullshit. Then you have enough balls to pretty much hope for war. You're a fucking joke and an eyesore to this forum.

Go back to AboveTopSecret where people will actually believe your bullshit.

Some drink from the fountain of knowledge, you only gargled :lol

Did you skip the 2nd grade where they taught you reading comprehension?

BTW I don't go to ATS :lol :lol :lol

So what thread did Wii get junior'd for anyway?

Actually I still don't know what it was for, no reason was given

 

[Dice]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12039477

When they are self-contradictory asshats in this manner, I don't mind. However, I do wish articles like this included more quotes from the threats they made before about what they would do if a drill was held. Why the media seems to be protecting them from the shame of their own stupidity is beyond me.

 

[MadraptorMan]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12039477

When they are self-contradictory asshats in this manner, I don't mind. However, I do wish articles like this included more quotes from the threats they made before about what they would do if a drill was held. Why the media seems to be protecting them from the shame of their own stupidity is beyond me.

Maybe it's so they don't feel obligated to actually do something? Isn't it better for them to be lying and get away with it than to hurt their pride and have them do something dangerous?

Then again, this is all assuming the NK government gives two shits about what the rest of the world's media says anyway, so it's probably a moot point.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Actually I still don't know what it was for, no reason was given

what does the status mean or do, exactly?

 

[Dice]

Maybe it's so they don't feel obligated to actually do something? Isn't it better for them to be lying and get away with it than to hurt their pride and have them do something dangerous?

The media protection goes far beyond being sensitive to their pride. I posted here about it a bit:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24993370&postcount=2223

Beyond that, plenty have even gone so far as to say South Korea instigated the attacks on Yeonpyeong when they did their normal, scheduled drills which they had done for many years without anything from the North.

 

[freddy]

what does the status mean or do, exactly?

It means you can't start a thread.

 

[Neuromancer]

It means you can't start a thread.

And you are looked down upon, by your peers.

So I guess nothing happened huh? Good.

 

[Bisnic]

So... did South Korea canceled at the last minute?

Or is North Korea too scared to retaliate, knowing that almost everyone will be against them if war was to happen?

 

[CitizenCope]

I woke up this morning and the world wasn't on fire. Close thread.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Not exactly 13 hours but close enough.

 

[Fisticuffs]

So... did South Korea canceled at the last minute?

Or is North Korea too scared to retaliate, knowing that almost everyone will be against them if war was to happen?

south Korea did their drills. North Korea decided it wasn't worth it to retaliate. The day is saved thanks to NEOGAF.

 

[Deku]

south Korea did their drills. North Korea decided it wasn't worth it to retaliate. The day is saved thanks to NEOGAF.

FLAWLESS VICTORY FOR NEOGAF.

Anyways,

We're not in the clear yet. The sinking of the South Korean navy ship was in retaliation for perceived 'threats' accumulated over a period before it.

When dealing with a country like NK, you assume they will reserve the right to retaliate when and where they want. I suspect there will be another incident a few weeks or months down the line to retaliate for this.

 

[Mindlog]

Unless talks resume.

If talks resume then the Dead Leader's magnanimous decision not to retaliate is going to be worth concessions.

However, if the concessions aren't equal to the needs of the Republic... Then the DPRK must defend itself against their confused southern brethren and US puppet masters.

all of this has happened before
aoftwha

 

[fallagin]

south Korea did their drills. North Korea decided it wasn't worth it to retaliate. The day is saved thanks to NEOGAF.

For all the shit Evilore gets for not stopping wars I think it is awesome that he stopped this one. Did he know when he first started Neogaf that he would be ambassador of the world?

 

[Bisnic]

Why do people think Neogaf of Evilore has anything to do with NK's decision to not do anything?

Did i miss something?

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

What a surprise. Nothing happened.

 

[dudeworld]

Why do people think Neogaf of Evilore has anything to do with NK's decision to not do anything?

Did i miss something?

Because of the fleet of armchair generals that we're so lucky to have here on NeoGAF. Without them, we'd currently be fighting WW3

 

[Neuromancer]

Because of the fleet of armchair generals that we're so lucky to have here on NeoGAF. Without them, we'd currently be fighting WW3

I hear Kim Jong Il has the OT bookmarked so he can check in with his most trusted military advisers in these extremely tense situations.

 

[fallagin]

I hear Jim Kong Il has the OT bookmarked so he can check in with his most trusted military advisers in these extremely tense situations.

Bookmarked? Lol. OT is his homepage.

 

[BocoDragon]

I hear Kim Jong Il has the OT bookmarked so he can check in with his most trusted military advisers in these extremely tense situations.

That's why the "I felt a strange mixture of shame...." thread has exploded in popularity... it's actually part of a campaign to distract Kim during warfare.

 

[Dice]

What the fuck, South Korea.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101222/wl_nm/us_korea_north

SEOUL (Reuters) – South Korea said it will hold its largest-ever live-fire drill near the military border with North Korea on Thursday in a huge show of force just as tension on the peninsula was easing after Pyongyang's attack on a southern island.

The drill, involving artillery, fighter jets and the largest number of personnel in a peace-time exercise, comes after the South's live-fire artillery exercise on Monday on the island of Yeonpyeong and is bound to infuriate the North.

North Korea this week offered to re-admit U.N. inspectors concerned about its nuclear-weapon program, leading to speculation of a resumption of six-party disarmament talks and a general sigh of relief around the world that the crisis had passed.

"Yes, it will be a show of force against that," an army officer said when asked if the shelling of Yeonpyeong island last month was a factor in the drill's planning.

He said similar drills had been staged previously on more than 50 occasions, but the scale this time was unprecedented.

"The scale of mechanized assets taking place is enormous. When we would normally have 6 K-9 mechanized artillery, we'll have 36. We'll have the F-15 jets firing. We'll have choppers. You can say most of the mechanized assets taking part will be firing live ammunition."

It will take place in Pocheon region, less than 50 km (30 miles) north of downtown Seoul.

"We're gonna piss them off until it's the last thing we do!"

Edit: Also WTF Seoul will be rumbling with the noise from this.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

well shit.

kinda hard to defend this. seems well within their rights but far from wise.

 

[fastford58]

What the fuck, South Korea.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101222/wl_nm/us_korea_north

"We're gonna piss them off until it's the last thing we do!"

Edit: Also WTF Seoul will be rumbling with the noise from this.

The South is sick of the North's shit and are calling them out. You can only play the passive good guy for so long.

The North is tantamount to a large terrorist organization. If only other nations acted with as much restraint as the South has all these years. I think they have been more than patient with the endless cycle of nonsense.

 

[Ether_Snake]

What the fuck, South Korea.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101222/wl_nm/us_korea_north

"We're gonna piss them off until it's the last thing we do!"

Edit: Also WTF Seoul will be rumbling with the noise from this.

Political positioning.

 

[slit]

What the fuck, South Korea.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101222/wl_nm/us_korea_north

"We're gonna piss them off until it's the last thing we do!"

Edit: Also WTF Seoul will be rumbling with the noise from this.

I guess they're tired of the north trying to bully them all the time. You can only poke a stick at a dog so many times before he starts growling.

 

[TacticalFox88]

What the fuck, South Korea.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101222/wl_nm/us_korea_north

"We're gonna piss them off until it's the last thing we do!"

Edit: Also WTF Seoul will be rumbling with the noise from this.

Wow....Korea is such a shitty place. Constantly living in fear, whether or not you'll wake up to war.

 

[nyong]

It's nice to see S. Korea push back. No more sunken ships, axe murders, or random artillery barrages from the North without consequence. Frankly, this should have been done earlier.

They do need to tread carefully, though.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

What the fuck, South Korea.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101222/wl_nm/us_korea_north

"We're gonna piss them off until it's the last thing we do!"

Edit: Also WTF Seoul will be rumbling with the noise from this.

Good, let's see the North do jack and/or shit (because they're not).

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

If the rumours going around are true, Kim's poor health after his stroke has him in a position where he can't be very hands on, and he's facing pressure from hawks in his own government. The South antagonizing them like this forces Km into a position where he has to either look weak, or fight a war he's not mentally fit to run.

This stuff is all about destabilizing the North from within, and hopefully forcing a more reasonable leadership into place.

 

[Madman]

What the fuck, South Korea.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101222/wl_nm/us_korea_north

"We're gonna piss them off until it's the last thing we do!"

Edit: Also WTF Seoul will be rumbling with the noise from this.

It's not like they are shelling North Korea. Military drills are pretty important considering the situation.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

This stuff is all about destabilizing the North from within, and hopefully forcing a more reasonable leadership into place.

Reminds me of an OPLAN that was floated during the Bush Administration to basically make them waste their resources (especially jet fuel).

 

[Kibbles]

It's only a matter of time before NK comes out and says yet again "If SK goes with the drills on Thursday, it'll be considered a declaration of war!!! har har har!"

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

It's only a matter of time before NK comes out and says yet again "If SK goes with the drills on Thursday, it'll be considered a declaration of war!!! har har har!"

Nah, I suspect nuclear threat and/or DPRK must take heroic self defense against puppets...blah blah we typed this shit out on a old school computer using The Print Shop. :lol

 

[Dreams-Visions]

It's not like they are shelling North Korea. Military drills are pretty important considering the situation.

still, the phrase "unnecessary provocation" comes to mind.

do you think if Mexico had decided to do this on the US border in a declaired "show of force", we'd shurg and pretend it wasn't happening?

how about if India did this on Pakistan's border?

or any country on another's border? suddenly, it doesn't sound like a good idea, does it?

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

still, the phrase "unnecessary provocation" comes to mind.

do you think if Mexico had decided to do this on the US border in a declaired "show of force", we'd shurg and pretend it wasn't happening?

how about if India did this on Pakistan's border?

or any country on another's border? suddenly, it doesn't sound like a good idea, does it?

Screw em, North Korea is getting a lesson now that people aren't going to put up with it's crap anymore....also I think the goal is to make the North waste their resources. I'll see if I can find the article.

 

[BertramCooper]

still, the phrase "unnecessary provocation" comes to mind.

do you think if Mexico had decided to do this on the US border in a declaired "show of force", we'd shurg and pretend it wasn't happening?

how about if India did this on Pakistan's border?

or any country on another's border? suddenly, it doesn't sound like a good idea, does it?

All of the shit North Korea has pulled the last two years - and all the South Korean civilians and military members they've murdered - and you're calling out the South for "unnecessary provocation?"

The South Koreans have been more than reasonable in light of Kim's bullshit.

 

[KevinRo]

still, the phrase "unnecessary provocation" comes to mind.

do you think if Mexico had decided to do this on the US border in a declaired "show of force", we'd shurg and pretend it wasn't happening?

how about if India did this on Pakistan's border?

or any country on another's border? suddenly, it doesn't sound like a good idea, does it?

Your point is moot.

Lets just completely forget NK had sunk a SK submarine and killed SK citizens on SK LAND recently.

 

[TacticalFox88]

All of the shit North Korea has pulled the last two years - and all the South Korean civilians and military members they've murdered - and you're calling out the South for "unnecessary provocation?"

The South Koreans have been more than reasonable in light of Kim's bullshit.

We should've finished what we started over 50 years ago.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Your point is moot.

Lets just completely forget NK had sunk a SK submarine and killed SK citizens on SK LAND recently.

Your point is also moot.

If they wanted to do something about it, they should have done it then. Passive-aggressiveness has no place in geopolitics. I'm just addressing why it might not be a good idea to do today.

All of the shit North Korea has pulled the last two years - and all the South Korean civilians and military members they've murdered - and you're calling out the South for "unnecessary provocation?"

The South Koreans have been more than reasonable in light of Kim's bullshit.

If it's not unnecessary and melodramatic, then what is it?

and you speak as though the world hasn't called out NK a million times for their million mistakes. SK should be called out if they pull some bullshit out of their ass just as fast as anyone else. Unwise actions are not exclusively owned and trademarked by any particular country.

But hey...if you think this is wise and in their best interests, I'm not interested in arguing with you about it. Enjoy your perspective. It seems a bit childish and immature, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Tristam]

Wow....Korea is such a shitty place. Constantly living in fear, whether or not you'll wake up to war.

:lol

Korea can often be a shitty place, but not for that reason. Nobody in the South is 'constantly living in fear' of war.

 

[Kibbles]

Nah, I suspect nuclear threat and/or DPRK must take heroic self defense against puppets...blah blah we typed this shit out on a old school computer using The Print Shop. :lol

Yup, can't forget the nuclear threat. I can't wait to see how they make this threat more intimidating than the last.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

Passive-aggressiveness has no place in geopolitics.

Passive-aggressiveness pretty much is geopolitics.

 

[BertramCooper]

and you speak as though the world hasn't called out NK a million times for their million mistakes. SK should be called out if they pull some bullshit out of their ass just as fast as anyone else. Unwise actions are not exclusively owned and trademarked by any particular country.

Because the world saying, "Bad Kim! That's a very BAD KIM!" over and over again has worked really well, hasn't it?

But hey...if you think this is wise and in their best interests, I'm not interested in arguing with you about it. Enjoy your perspective. It seems a bit childish and immature, but that's just my opinion.

I'd say yours seems hopelessly naïve. But we'll agree to disagree.

 

[Neuromancer]

Good on SK I say.

 

[chaostrophy]

My brother (American expat) has lived in Seoul for years, and said that South Koreans as a whole are not that bothered by the whole situation. They don't want to pay the economic cost of absorbing the DPRK, while Kim Jong Il wants to keep the power that allows him to live a life of luxury and knows that will be gone if he provokes a war. He said that on average Americans are more nervous about North Korea than South Koreans are.

 

[Phoenix]

My brother (American expat) has lived in Seoul for years, and said that South Koreans as a whole are not that bothered by the whole situation. They don't want to pay the economic cost of absorbing the DPRK, while Kim Jong Il wants to keep the power that allows him to live a life of luxury and knows that will be gone if he provokes a war. He said that on average Americans are more nervous about North Korea than South Koreans are.

If the US had a competent missile shield I think they would care a lot less as well.