I thought the mission DLC was fantastic. A bit expensive if you bought it at full price probably (I got it on sale), but the quality of the content was great.
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Saints Row expansion now a full game
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Mr Killemgood
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If he really wanted to be smart, he'd position it as a $20 standalone downloadable expansion, then re-release SR3 at retail with a gold box at $60 including all DLC + the expansion.
But he won't. He'll release it as a $40-$60 retail title that will not have a good price proposition, and will sell poorly (500,000 - 700,000).
But he won't. He'll release it as a $40-$60 retail title that will not have a good price proposition, and will sell poorly (500,000 - 700,000).
Joe Molotov
Member
No. Season Pass owners already got everything they're going to get.
It's confusing because Saint's Row 4 hasn't been announced properly in a reveal yet, however, my positive feelings come from the parallel development of Saint's Row 4, and Saint's Row 3 DLC, and how the industry used to function before DLC existed.
Before Today: In Development:
1. Saint's Row 4 Full Game
2. Saint's Row 3 DLC
Today's Announcement (I believe, it is confusing):
Saint's Row 3 DLC narrative and gameplay ideas
+
Saint's Row 4 Full Game
(Fresh content will be added/modifiedinto/incorporated into already in-development SR4)
=
-Saint's Row 4 with even more great content
-Saint's Row 3 package a complete experience now
-The 'idea of DLC' being phased out in exchange for actual "Full Game Release experiences", the way it used to work in the industry.
Nope. It was a standalone expansion originally.
Volition is an incredibly talented team, and this will be a 2 year development cycle for them. I see no reason to worry. This also allows them to get out one more full game before the next generation kicks off and they can do a Saint's Row for that.
It actually makes a lot of sense imo. I also just platinum'd SR3 a couple months ago, and am perfectly happy waiting till next year to get another full title.
It would be nice to see a SR: subtitle here followed by a SR4 for next gen.
It actually makes a lot of sense imo. I also just platinum'd SR3 a couple months ago, and am perfectly happy waiting till next year to get another full title.
It would be nice to see a SR: subtitle here followed by a SR4 for next gen.
EdibleExplosives
Member
I'm ok with this.
Neuromancer
Member
The expansion was going to be disc based (at least on console).
The Albatross
Member
This si good for the next game, but sucks more for anybody who bought the Saints Row Season pass, and all you got was GENKAI BOWL 2012.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Season pass came with:
Nyte Blade Pack
Genkibowl VII
Gangstas in Space
Trouble with Clones.
It would be released as a disc based expansion, not a full fledged game. It probably would have worked with your saves from SR3.
No. The content we've already got is what the season pass contained.
The Grim Heaper
Member
How embarrassing!
Just kidding, this sounds great. Hopefully it comes out with replayable missions and more customization options.
Just kidding, this sounds great. Hopefully it comes out with replayable missions and more customization options.
You should play Saints Row The Third
He never was. As said before, that quote that was going around was from a journalist stating they didn't like SRTT, not Rubin.
It'll be interesting to see the state this sequel comes out in--my cynical side wonders if this is going to help get SR4 out the door faster overall (folding in the expansion means they don't need to create as much SR4-specific stuff), letting him pull Volition off the franchise sooner so they can work on the types of games he thinks they should be making. So will we get a full SR4+ the Dominatrix stuff? Or will we get a buffed-up Dominatrix including parts of what would have been SR4? Will be interesting to see.
I'm not mad at the delay to expand the game. It was probably the best way to get more money out of it and now we'll get a full-fledged game that will hopefully address and correct some problems that were in The Third. So good. I can imagine what super powers they are going to cook up. lol.
Neuromancer
Member
It also shows Crecente is a jackass with extremely poor writing skills.
I'm still not 100% sure that Rubin wasn't doing some pretty extreme back peddling after that article though.
My thoughts exactly. I want the game to be serious again. Just shows that SR2 was their peak, all downhill from here.
Maybe the people celebrating don't want the game to be serious? Just a thought.
Go ahead and enjoy their terrible sequels. By all means, don't let me stop you.
GTA is that way. ->
GTA doesn't have Johnny Gat unfortunately.
Neither does SR at this point. :lol
Also, I prefer my gangster MC to be female.
They've been working on Saints Row nonstop, literally, since Saints Row 1. When Saints Row 1 was almost finished, or around that time, they started working on Saints Row 2, or atleast announced Saints Row 2, then when that was almost finished, they announced Saints Row 3, then Saints Row 4.
I'm not sure how normal that cycle is in the game development business, but it doesn't sound good for any line of work that requires creative output/inspired workers. It's as if they are just churning out Saints Row after Saints Row cause of how much money the previous games made.
That type of development cycle can't maintain a good/decent FPS game after 3-4 iterations, so I have some doubts as to whether or not the people behind Saints Row can churn out another good+ open world game (Which requires far, far more content than an FPS game.) especially considering Saints Row 3 was already lacking in many areas (Especially content wise.).
I'm not sure how normal that cycle is in the game development business, but it doesn't sound good for any line of work that requires creative output/inspired workers. It's as if they are just churning out Saints Row after Saints Row cause of how much money the previous games made.
That type of development cycle can't maintain a good/decent FPS game after 3-4 iterations, so I have some doubts as to whether or not the people behind Saints Row can churn out another good+ open world game (Which requires far, far more content than an FPS game.) especially considering Saints Row 3 was already lacking in many areas (Especially content wise.).
Muffdraul
Member
I think it's pretty normal for a developer that focuses on one franchise. It's a creative endeavor, but it's also a day job. These people need to go to work every day and earn their paychecks just like anyone else. Once the front end designers have done their thing and have nothing more to do on the current project, they start preliminary work on the next one while the programmers still have months or even years of work left to do getting the game out the door.
These thoughts keep me warm at night when I speculate that Rockstar has probably been working on GTA V in some capacity for at least four years, maybe 5. Then I fap.
Funny, something made me start a new game of SR2 last night. I guess my 'SR news sense' was tingling.
Yeah probably, but still, I hope they are atleast shuffling the development teams on the various Saints Row games (For the sake of the developers and overall creativity/development atmosphere.).
I also thought about GTA V while writing my previous post -- I was wondering how long Rockstar have been working on GTA V (That is, actual content creation, as opposed to a couple of guys sketching out the very basics of the plot/story and such.)
Garcia el Gringo
Member
Oh. I was really excited when this was going to be an expansion pack. I've missed those. And it would have been fun to see how it would have stacked up compared to The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony. I know I'll be able to stomach another current gen full-fledged Saints Row game, but it's still disappointing regardless.
Fuck that game. Such a technical mess combined with a whole lot of nothing. So glad they turned away from that game.
Its easy, taunt someone then run into a store. Go back out and taunt someone else, repeat. (can't taunt the same person more than once though)
Really doesn't take that long.
What? Did we play the same game? SR2 was hardly serious. Leave that shit in GTA.
Gay Tony and The Lost and The Damned were $20 downloadable episodes, not full games. That's at least one difference.
notworksafe
Member
Wait...SR2 was serious? Yeah the missions where you spray poop all over the city were pretty deep.
Find a gang operation near a shop, run over and taunt as many as possible then run into a shop, if it is far enough away they should respawn and you can do it again, takes no time at all.
It's being rolled into a new rushed game. It was over 3 years between SR2 and SR3. Now we're getting SR4 in two years (maybe less), with shoehorned-in DLC from a previous game because THQ is struggling to keep the lights on, and Saints Row is their only consistent money maker. This is not a good thing.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Along with the mission where you steal nuclear waste and combine it with tattoo ink to disfigure a rival gang leader, or how the game begins with you butchering an entire courthouse, or the crazy voodoo powers. Though I think we should keep in mind that his favourite character if Johnny Gat, the most serious and believable character in video game history.
If the game comes out as Saint's Row 3 with more content I'll be happy.
Scenes like the cemetary, or when your friend (forgot his name)
was dragged around the neighborhood via truck
where you put Jess in the trunk of the car
You got me on the poop mission, but still I'd say SR2 had darker tones to it.
Cute.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Vice City was an expansion wasn't it? That's how the news about it was describing it before it launched.
levyjl1988
Banned
Since it's going to be a brand new game I'm hoping for cover mechanics like what RE6 is doing and GoW3. Also any DLC from SR3 is easily translated over to this SR game for those who bought it.