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"there are no bankable asian actresses" is racist propaganda and anyone that uses that as an argument is being willfully ignorant.
For some reason unknown white actors getting lead roles in Hollywood movies quite often.
"there are no bankable asian actresses" is racist propaganda and anyone that uses that as an argument is being willfully ignorant.
Meh, there's no Asian actresses bankable enough to head up a movie with that budget. In fact, there's less than a handful of any race.
I agree, but I think that's precisely the problem.
Yeah, I really get both sides here.
Want to spend big money on a blockbuster? Need a box office draw.
Absolutely fair.
"there are no bankable asian actresses" is racist propaganda and anyone that uses that as an argument is being willfully ignorant.
Are there any big Asian stars with the requisite body to play the major? If so please provide photographic evidence.
Such as? Can you name any big budget hollywood movie, that wasn't already part of a well established/developed franchise, that had a unknown actor/actress cast in the leading role?
She should at least try to speak out about it rather than taking the predictable white feminist stance as seen in that interview. She sidesteps the racial issues like they don't exist and in effect makes it invisible/non-issue to readers.
It's weird she's playing a character with a Japanese name, but she's not exactly human so I can roll with it. If she was a Japanese woman raised in Japan and has a history we need to be aware of in the Ghost in the Shell universe then that's one thing, but she was just made in a factory with other similar models if I recall.
"there are no bankable asian actresses" is racist propaganda and anyone that uses that as an argument is being willfully ignorant.
Wow....
Tomb Raider has Alicia Vikander as it's lead. A movie property that had a big Hollywood star in Angeline Jolie to sell and do decent but not spectacular box office performance.
Are there any big Asian stars with the requisite body to play the major? If so please provide photographic evidence.
I think the best solution to this problem is to start having minorities in supporting roles in big budget movies, and after audiences get accustomed to seeing them, they can branch out and star in their own big budget movies. I feel like that is how a lot of big name black actors got their break. It is unfortunate but it seems like the safest way to handle it from a studio's perspective.
Indeed.
People are really saying there's no bankable Asian actresses? I'm sorry, but how many bankable actresses are there anyway? Why is this an issue now, when Armie Hammer or Taylor Kitsch got huge roles?
To be fair, you would have to be insane to give a $200 million dollar franchise to Kikuchi.
This feels like the new way of tearing down feminism. Instead of celebrating the little steps and then working for more, we're turning on the little steps and criticizing them for not being big enough. We're attacking the people trying to take small steps.
Good for Scarlett Johansson for talking about the struggles she's faced. I wouldn't blame her for taking a role that was offered to her and that most women never have a chance at, I would blame the studios who aren't making many female-lead action movies and who chose to deny the role to a minority woman. Instead of criticizing Scarlett Johansson and trying to silence her, we should be focusing on lifting up her and minority women.
How about I give you some actors. Chris Hemsworth. Sam Worthington. Taylor Kitsch. Look up their $100+ million dollar budgeted films that they headlined, and look at their filmography prior to those movies. Get back to me.
The thing is though Kusanagi is "human" or at least her experiences were before she became cyberized. Most of her life is alluded to have been in Japan, so she would be a Japanese woman raised in Japan.
Then again she doesn't even remember her real name, so I guess there is theoretical flex space in a sense.
A lot of black actors got their break because black creators cast them in films/TV shows aimed at black audiences. No one is doing the same for Asian American actors.
If you want people other than anime fans to see this movie you need a well known star.
Her casting is a win for women of all colors, so pipe down Asian Americans and bask in this progress. Scarlett Johansson is the hero we both deserve and need.
This sounds really strange to be honest. ^^I think the best solution to this problem is to start having minorities in supporting roles in big budget movies, and after audiences get accustomed to seeing them, they can branch out and start in their own big budget movies.
This seems like the safest way to handle it from a studio's perspective.
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How is it a casting win for all women? Was there ever a consideration for casting a man?
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How is it a casting win for all women? Was there ever a consideration for casting a man?
Sarcasm.
People are really saying there's no bankable Asian actresses? I'm sorry, but how many bankable actresses are there anyway? Why is this an issue now, when Armie Hammer or Taylor Kitsch got huge roles in the past?
"I am sorry, we cannot cast Alden Ehrenreich as Han Solo, he is not bankable."
How about 250?
Or 225?
No, this is very much white feminism. She is pushing WoC aside to prop herself up.
No one is trying to silence or even disagreeing with her desire to see equal treatment of women in Hollywood.
We do however have issue with her ignoring issues the don't affect white women and claiming to be a feminist.
She is not free from criticism because she is a woman.
How about I give you some actors. Chris Hemsworth. Sam Worthington. Taylor Kitsch. Look up their $100+ million dollar budgeted films that they headlined, and look at their filmography prior to those movies. Get back to me.
Alicia Vikander is an Oscar winner...
But, a really clear and obvious choice would be Rinko Kikuchi. She's a Japanese actress with a successful career in Hollywood. She's starred in tentpole films (Pacific Rim), she has serious credibility as an actor for smaller films like Kumiko, The Treasure Hunter. She even looks the part.
Do you really think those movies make a good case for casting an unknown in the lead of an expensive film?
LMAO That has nothing to do with being a bankable star. Monique is an Oscar winner. Not to mention Alicia won it as a supporting actress and not as a lead, which often times have different quantifications in opportunities.
A lot of black actors got their break because black creators cast them in films/TV shows aimed at black audiences. No one is doing the same for Asian American actors.
No, this is very much white feminism. She is pushing WoC aside to prop herself up.
No one is trying to silence or even disagreeing with her desire to see equal treatment of women in Hollywood.
We do however have issue with her ignoring issues the don't affect white women and claiming to be a feminist.
She is not free from criticism because she is a woman.
Are you serious?The way I look at it is, an American company bought the rights, so it's an American film.
Compared to something like "21" a story about Asian card counters in America getting white-washed. That's bullshit. But if they sold the rights to Bollywood then you'd have to expect it being cast with Indian actors.
No, this is very much white feminism. She is pushing WoC aside to prop herself up.
No one is trying to silence or even disagreeing with her desire to see equal treatment of women in Hollywood.
We do however have issue with her ignoring issues the don't affect white women and claiming to be a feminist.
She is not free from criticism because she is a woman.
Is the movie seeing audience really so shallow that if the movie is good they wont go see a lesser known actor that isn't white? Does the movie need to be this huge budget affair? I honestly think the quality of the movie and the marketing can make uo for bankable stars given your movie doesn't suck.
So, all women should stay down, basically? The problem is that these turn into criticisms against the women, individually. Scarlett Johansson can't try to seek equality for herself, because in doing so, she's not helping everyone. So, she needs to stay down.
Yeah, things are worse for minority women, absolutely, but doesn't it help the cause for them, if some women are getting action-adventure roles? Doesn't her success in this role, make it more likely that similar movies will be made and more opportunities will be opened up for all women?
There needs to be a balance, where we try to push forward the cause of minority women, without tearing down the efforts of white feminist (who are frankly more likely to get traction in the movement).
How about 250?
Or 225?
No, this is very much white feminism. She is pushing WoC aside to prop herself up.
No one is trying to silence or even disagreeing with her desire to see equal treatment of women in Hollywood.
We do however have issue with her ignoring issues the don't affect white women and claiming to be a feminist.
She is not free from criticism because she is a woman.
You were responding to a comment about unknowns.
There's a massive difference between being an unknown and being a bankable star. Alicia Vikander isn't a bankable star, clearly. She's also the furthest fucking thing from an unknown. A film like Tomb Raider gets greenlit because of the Tomb Raider brand, not because of the star.