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SCEA announces 250GB PS3 for $349

Wario64 said:
Right now there's a Western Digital Elements drive 500GB external selling for $65, free shipping on Dell. Just open up the enclosure and use it on the PS3 and you got yourself twice as much HDD space than this stupid SKU


Actually I think the 500GB is SATA, PS3 doesn't take SATA does it? I know the 400GB works since that's what I used for my PS3.
it's SATA. 2.5". not even sure if they make (P)ATA drives that big in 2.5" size
 
Wario64 said:
lol, I got a Mybook 500GB external for $50. 120GB good value, ahahahaha


I guess Microsoft has skewed some of our perception at HDD value
If the Mybook was a 2.5" SATA then it was a good value.
Price is normal for a 3.5" though.
 
TouchMyBox said:
It would have been hilarious if this was $399, it's not a very good value at $349 either. On newegg a 120GB HDD retails for $54.99 whereas a 250GB HDD retails for $54.99 (2.5 inch of course). Wasn't this supposed to come bundled with a game?


:lol :lol :lol
 
gamerecks said:
Once again GAF thinks business decisions are made for them.

I don't. I know exactly who this is targetted at, and why they're releasing it.

Fact is, if you're part of that target market you're a clueless, uninformed and lazy shill, that doesn't mind being exploited. Of course companies are going to line up to take extra dollars of these sorts of consumers, it'd be bad business not to.
 
The people this is targeting have never visited, let alone heard of newegg before. People want convenience. They doubled the HDD size without much cost to them (Sony), and can sell it for a nicer margin.
 
alr1ghtstart said:
The people this is targeting have never visited, let alone heard of newegg before. People want convenience. They doubled the HDD size without much cost to them (Sony), and can sell it for a nicer margin.
stop making sense! :lol
 
MrPliskin said:
Not worth it to you, maybe, but I'm sure Joe 6 Pack will take it in a heart beat.
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Joe Six Pack wouldn't know 120 gigs from 120 megs. It's a good value for gafers, but not for Joe Six Pack.
 
Wario64 said:
lol, I got a Mybook 500GB external for $50. 120GB good value, ahahahaha


I guess Microsoft has skewed some of our perception at HDD value

So if you're not interested in buying another, and you're smart enough to replace it, why are you in here shitting on others? I don't think your self righteous attitude is not doing anyone any good.

We all know it's not a "great deal" but it is a good price, considering their history. It's also a wise business move, which will hopefully help Sony get back on their feet, which will keep competition healthy in the gaming industry, which is good for us, as gamers.

What the hell is wrong with this again?

Edit: To the above poster, Joe Six Pack isn't the beer drinking hill billy living in a trailer in the middle of alabama. He's the college kid who parties, barely get's by, and at the end of the day knows 2 things: iPods and music. He knows what a "Gigabyte" is because millions of people in america know what an iPod is.

Or do you think everyone on the planet is seriously THAT stupid? I guess people don't know what the "J6P" demographic is.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
Joe Six Pack wouldn't know 120 gigs from 120 megs. It's a good value for gafers, but not for Joe Six Pack.

Either way, that number doubled and bigger is better right? Joe Six Pack will buy the one with 250 on the box.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
Joe Six Pack wouldn't know 120 gigs from 120 megs. It's a good value for gafers, but not for Joe Six Pack.

Wow Mr. Six Pack isn't THAT stupid :lol Most people know what gigs are these days. Now Joe Twelve Pack? Maybe he won't know.
 
alr1ghtstart said:
The people this is targeting have never visited, let alone heard of newegg before. People want convenience. They doubled the HDD size without much cost to them (Sony), and can sell it for a nicer margin.
Thank you.

To the people they are selling this to, it's an immense value, doubling the HDD space. They are the people that don't know how to or don't want to bother changing the HDD. these are the same people that buy HDMI cables at best buy.

And more importantly, there are a ton of these people. Let's be clear, being an informed buyer can help you save money on any single thing on this earth, but being an informed shopper is also a tedious task, often making something as simple as buying say, a PS3, into something that takes way too much time. Doesn't make them lazy, just not interested in going through too much trouble to save some money.
 
Wow. Don't think I've ever seen the tides turn so quickly. Thread went from "great price" to "practically a rip-off".
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
Joe Six Pack wouldn't know 120 gigs from 120 megs.
I'd say the majority now do, after the mainstream adoption of USB drives, micro SD cards for phones, and iPods.

Once my mom knows the difference, I take that a a measure of the average consumer knowing it.


AFreak said:
It's better than $150 for 120GB. ;)

indeed.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
Joe Six Pack wouldn't know 120 gigs from 120 megs. It's a good value for gafers, but not for Joe Six Pack.

I suspect when browsing the hardware, most people can note the difference that one costs less, but it says it only has '120' on the box, and the other is a little more, but says '250' on the box.
 
slider said:
Wow. Don't think I've ever seen the tides turn so quickly. Thread went from "great price" to "practically a rip-off".

That's because GAF is full of idiots.

$50 for 130GB is a great price from Sony. I don't know how people can be delusional enough to think that Sony would sell HDD space cheaper than newegg but I'm constantly surprised by the clueless DIY'ers who can't understand that businesses work off of profits.
 
AFreak said:
It's better than $150 for 120GB. ;)

PS3: $299.99
PS3 250 gig: $349.99
Value proposition versus base unit: 130 gigs for $50

360: $299.99
MW2 360: $399.99
Value proposition versus base unit: 130 gigs, a full retail price game, and a second controller for $100
 
brain_stew said:
I don't. I know exactly who this is targetted at, and why they're releasing it.

Fact is, if you're part of that target market you're a clueless, uninformed and lazy shill, that doesn't mind being exploited. Of course companies are going to line up to take extra dollars of these sorts of consumers, it'd be bad business not to.


Or you're someone who values their spare time more than a few bucks. For me, I'll gladly just pay and extra $50 for more space rather than have to search for a compatible HDD, wait for it to arrive, install it, etc.
 
Concept17 said:
I suspect when browsing the hardware, most people can note the difference that one costs less, but it says it only has '120' on the box, and the other is a little more, but says '250' on the box.


Right, but how does he then know if it's worth $50? He typically doesn't. I think folks understand that a bundled game is worth $50, but half of us would have to do a quick google search to find out how much SATA we get per dollar this week.

You also then have to think about what the perceived value of disc space on a console is anyway. For us, it's photos, MP3s, Videos (not OS anymore, sadly) and all that. For Joe Sixpack, a console and hard drive space probably don't map at all.

We're not talking about an AV dad, who gets that this is a Blu Ray/multimedia machine, and understands how convenient another 120 gigs is. Although there will be PLENTY of that guy. We're talking about moms, random mouth-breathers, baseline mainstream consumers.

GAF gives Joe Six Pack too much credit - anyone here who works in retail knows that the low bar is very low indeed. And that "average" people can often seem borderline retarded when it comes to stuff we take for granted.

And if Gaf thinks that Joe Sixpack thinks $50 is a reasonable amount per gig when equated with the cost and inconvenience of a newegg upgrade, then gaf is being pretty dense.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
How many active SKUs does this make?

All PS3 SKUs (past and present)

20GB
40GB
60GB
80GB /w BC
80GB w/o BC
160GB
Slim 120GB
Slim 250GB
 
To the people claiming that the average consumer doesn't know about newegg, isn't having more than 120GB in a ps3 venturing into an enthusiast-only zone? This just seems like a product to allow people to go "Yo bro, my tripple gots two hundred fifty gee-bee, that's giga byte."... In which case, this is the best product ever made.
 
Barkley's Justice said:
i think this is a really bad move on sony's part, and could potentially confuse the mass market.

"$350?? i thought it was $299!"

I agree and they should only advertise and push the $299 sku. If people become aware of the option to upgrade, then it's there for them.
 
What is the trade-in on an existing older PS3 for a Slim? Anyone know? 40 GB seems so pathetic right about now.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
Joe Six Pack wouldn't know 120 gigs from 120 megs. It's a good value for gafers, but not for Joe Six Pack.
The number is larger. That is enough.
 
brain_stew said:
I don't. I know exactly who this is targetted at, and why they're releasing it.

Fact is, if you're part of that target market you're a clueless, uninformed and lazy shill, that doesn't mind being exploited. Of course companies are going to line up to take extra dollars of these sorts of consumers, it'd be bad business not to.

If I was Sony, I would have thrown in a couple of extra LEDs on the unit. high end skus need more bling.
 
Barkley's Justice said:
i think this is a really bad move on sony's part, and could potentially confuse the mass market.

"$350?? i thought it was $299!"

...

Yeah, time to bounce out of this thread.

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I don't get this thread... the 360 elite gave you 60 extra gb and people ate it up, this comes out and people are calling it disastrous for just a $50 premium??
 
Barkley's Justice said:
i think this is a really bad move on sony's part, and could potentially confuse the mass market.

"$350?? i thought it was $299!"
The idea that someone could drop 300+ on a system and not know the difference between the two is stupid. You're probably talking about .0000001% of the population.

This sounds as dumb as the people who said people would buy Halo Wars and not know that it wasn't a FPS.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
And if Gaf thinks that Joe Sixpack thinks $50 is a reasonable amount per gig when equated with the cost and inconvenience of a newegg upgrade, then gaf is being pretty dense.

I don't think anyone thinks that. That's a worthless argument that shouldn't even be touched. But regardless of what Joe Sixpack knows, it's still a good deal. How much the buyer knows about the product doesn't change that.
 
Stumpokapow said:
PS3: $299.99
PS3 250 gig: $349.99
Value proposition versus base unit: 130 gigs for $50

360: $299.99
MW2 360: $399.99
Value proposition versus base unit: 130 gigs, a full retail price game, and a second controller for $100
My my how times have changed. Now the 360 is the one with the value at the higher price. Never thought I'd see the day.
 
Working in retail there is something I can tell you with 100% sincerity. Many... many people think that the bigger the hard-drive, the faster/more powerful the machine.
 
whitehawk said:
They are still the same SKU. Only Neogaf sees a difference between them.

So the 60-FullBC and 60-HalfBC SKUs are the same SKU but the 80-HalfBC and 80-NoBC SKUs are different? err?
 
Stumpokapow said:
So the 60-FullBC and 60-HalfBC SKUs are the same SKU but the 80-HalfBC and 80-NoBC SKUs are different? err?
I never said I agreed with the other poster either. It should be:

20GB
40GB
60GB
80GB
160GB
Slim 120GB
Slim 250GB
 
kpeezy said:
I don't think anyone thinks that. That's a worthless argument that shouldn't even be touched. But regardless of what Joe Sixpack knows, it's still a good deal. How much the buyer knows about the product doesn't change that.


I'm not disputing that. I'm only disputing the idea that this is somehow the "Joe Sixpack" sku. It's the opposite of that.
 
Stumpokapow said:
PS3: $299.99
PS3 250 gig: $349.99
Value proposition versus base unit: 130 gigs for $50

360: $299.99
MW2 360: $399.99
Value proposition versus base unit: 130 gigs, a full retail price game, and a second controller for $100


You should work for Microsoft PR!! Unless you already do !? :(
 
Stumpokapow said:
PS3: $299.99
PS3 250 gig: $349.99
Value proposition versus base unit: 130 gigs for $50

360: $299.99
MW2 360: $399.99
Value proposition versus base unit: 130 gigs, a full retail price game, and a second controller for $100
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travisbickle said:
You should work for Microsoft PR!! Unless you already do !? :(

Microsoft's hard drive prices are a fucking scam, but this thread is about whether 130 extra gigs is worth $50 extra. The target audience for this bundle will be able to choose between 120 gigs for $299 and 250 gigs for $349.

Some people are saying that this is not a worthwhile deal, and AFreak compared $50 for 130 gigs to $150 for 120 gigs, which is not a relevant comparison. The comparison on the 360 side is whether 130 extra gigs, a controller, and CODMW2 are worth $100 extra. The target audience for buying a 360 this Christmas will be able to choose between 120 gigs for $299 and 250 gigs, an extra controller, and CODMW2 for $399.

Is this really controversial?
 
Kinitari said:
Working in retail there is something I can tell you with 100% sincerity. Many... many people think that the bigger the hard-drive, the faster/more powerful the machine.
Hehe, so true. You can even break it down to the bigger the number they see, tbh.
 
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