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Scribblenauts 2, bitches!
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Scythesurge
Member
Scribblenauts had a great foundation, one of the most ambitious games out there really. I personally had a lot of fun with the first despite its problems, and from the sound of things it seems like they will be trying their best to address people's problems with the first game. Plus, having double the amount of words to use can only make the experience better. Can't wait to find out more about this game!
MidnightScott
Banned
You lied Jeremiah Slaczka!
Cow Mengde
Banned
Oh and Jackson, Lock's Quest 2 please; with these improvements.
Better controls.
Faster camera scroll speed. I couldn't build in some of the larger levels fast enough because the camera wouldn't scroll to the location fast enough. It's rare, but it was especially annoying in the final battle.
Smarter weapon design - This one I need to go in-depth. Some of the weapons are too 1 dimensional. Like the one that fights off aerial enemies. They can only hit those and nothing else. Other games like this might have weapons more effective at X enemy, but can also help out in combat. Since the game's source limit means you can't build blindly, you end up not knowing whether you'll encounter flying enemies and end up not being able to do jack cause you didn't build it, or wasting source on a useless weapon.
Better source management - The gun mini-game was boring. You never know how much source you need, so it ends up being a chore to grind for source. You guys should just reset the source amount every level at a certain number you feel is enough, and have a bonus mini-game that'll increase the totals depending on how you do in the mini-game. The mini-game should also be limited so you can't go back and grind for more. Grind or no grind, the original gun mini-game got boring fast.
Better controls.
Faster camera scroll speed. I couldn't build in some of the larger levels fast enough because the camera wouldn't scroll to the location fast enough. It's rare, but it was especially annoying in the final battle.
Smarter weapon design - This one I need to go in-depth. Some of the weapons are too 1 dimensional. Like the one that fights off aerial enemies. They can only hit those and nothing else. Other games like this might have weapons more effective at X enemy, but can also help out in combat. Since the game's source limit means you can't build blindly, you end up not knowing whether you'll encounter flying enemies and end up not being able to do jack cause you didn't build it, or wasting source on a useless weapon.
Better source management - The gun mini-game was boring. You never know how much source you need, so it ends up being a chore to grind for source. You guys should just reset the source amount every level at a certain number you feel is enough, and have a bonus mini-game that'll increase the totals depending on how you do in the mini-game. The mini-game should also be limited so you can't go back and grind for more. Grind or no grind, the original gun mini-game got boring fast.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
..so return of the scribble-fy your avatar thread?! fantastic!
crazy monkey
Banned
I was just going to say hints and controls. Hints are already in i see. just needs control tighten. It will be great. As some one suggested D pad controls would be great
I'm optomistic.
Beside adjectives and controls I really think the physics needed and overhaul and also the person AI. I really hope they revisit what they've built and took feedback from the first game because it didn't always work as expected. That and break up a few of the synonym clusters into multiple objects.
Beside adjectives and controls I really think the physics needed and overhaul and also the person AI. I really hope they revisit what they've built and took feedback from the first game because it didn't always work as expected. That and break up a few of the synonym clusters into multiple objects.
I AM JOHN!
Banned
Can we temper our frothing demand this time, guys?
VGChampion
Member
I'm looking forward to it. As long as they realize what mistakes they made with the first game and attempt to fix them I'll pick it up sometime. Just don't turn it in to a Cooking Mama series. We really don't need a new game every. single. year.
Yeah, I want to know this too. JACKSON! *puts up the Jackson signal* WE NEED INFO. I also wonder if this is DS only since I didn't seem to notice any platform information on that website.Massa said:
We will undoubtedly not get any info due to exclusive deals with WB and magazines and stuff. 
At any rate, here are some primary things the game needs in my opinion (and I know all about the gaming culture -- I yam an expert):
1. NeoGAF needs to think the game will be bad, or mediocre. NeoGAF needs to not be hyped about the game. This should be rather obvious about every game, but especially Scribblenauts. Uncharted 2 might be the only game I've ever seen be nearly universally liked after the release, while every other one has a bunch of people who start hating it or who become disappointed in it.
2. A better Johnny Depp dancing GIF. That one did come out pretty quickly though.
3. Better controls, and a better physics engine. Specifically:
3a. The camera should stay frozen wherever you move it, without snapping back. Alternatively, have an option to control this.
3b. The arrow keys should move Maxwell along with a jump button if needed. If left-handedness is a concern, add an option to switch between right- and left-handed controls in a main options screen somewhere.
3c. It should be easier to move things, select enemies, and attack enemies. D-pad controls should prevent as many Maxwell suicides though, so I'll leave how this one is fixed open-ended.
3d. Stacked objects should stay put instead of potentially falling through each other. If you put stuff (girders?) over a gap, the girder might crawl along the ground or slowly fall INTO the ground in Scribblenauts 1.
3e. There should be some magically better way to do ropes and cords. The usual problem was that the rope/cord got locked into a certain shape, and then it was difficult to impossible to drag it somewhere that would fit in the level AND attach to whatever you were trying to use.
3f. Mass and friction should be implemented or faked so that if you attach a rope to a small object, the rope might pull it off the cliff. If you attach the rope to an anvil, or a car, or a steamroller, the heavy object should basically stay put unless something quite heavy is on the other end.
4. In terms of gameplay, I suppose there are various ways things could be improved. No dark levels would be nice, and if existing words interacted in more complex ways it would be impressive and more satisfying, for instance. In Scribblenauts 1, I feel that a good bit of the interaction is impressive due to a sort of horoscope effect, where you read more meaning into it than actually is there.
5. Jackson needs to get me a hat this time around. :'(
I spent the time writing up a detailed list of thoughts because I really appreciated Jackson being involved with the community last time around, and I think there is a chance he might read this, if 5th Cell is even developing it. I really liked Scribblenauts 1 and I do not regret buying three copies, but I do admit it had several flaws.
Mr Sandman
Banned
Wasn't the par system half the replayability? I loved shooting for the least amount possible...
krypt0nian
Banned
With new controls this version should be playable finally.
CornBurrito
Member
I'm not going to hype myself up for this. I'll be waiting for GAF impressions this time instead of buying it day 1.
10k more items is something I don't care about. I hope they make more of the items useful. I pretty much always used the same items last time. Though that might change with the removal of the par system.
For some reason I recall Jackson saying they filled the DS Cart to the brim. How are they adding 10k more words in that case? Perhaps it isn't for the DS this time.
10k more items is something I don't care about. I hope they make more of the items useful. I pretty much always used the same items last time. Though that might change with the removal of the par system.
For some reason I recall Jackson saying they filled the DS Cart to the brim. How are they adding 10k more words in that case? Perhaps it isn't for the DS this time.
joseph1594
Member
Oh man.... The first one was awesome, though it was tough to play at times due to the controls. I am so excited for this one, can't wait to hear more about it.
Buy the NP mag when it comes out on shelves next week. Some things I can confirm from the article.
-Developed by 5TH Cell.
-DS Only.
-Out this Fall.
-Yes, D-pad controls for Maxwell are in along with significantly improved stylus controls and camera is now fixed.
-Big updates to physics (it's still DS, but it's vastly improved).
-Levels are revamped completely improved (no more solving every level with rope/unicorn/death/etc), levels are deeper in content.
-The 10,000 words refers to adjectives, we didn't add 10,000 new objects, we put in 10,000 new adjectives (we put in some new words too).
-You can string adjectives together.
There's a lot more info in the NP article, buy it!
Some things I can confirm from the article.-Developed by 5TH Cell.
-DS Only.
-Out this Fall.
-Yes, D-pad controls for Maxwell are in along with significantly improved stylus controls and camera is now fixed.
-Big updates to physics (it's still DS, but it's vastly improved).
-Levels are revamped completely improved (no more solving every level with rope/unicorn/death/etc), levels are deeper in content.
-The 10,000 words refers to adjectives, we didn't add 10,000 new objects, we put in 10,000 new adjectives (we put in some new words too).
-You can string adjectives together.
There's a lot more info in the NP article, buy it!
Setvan2734
Member
Jackson said:
fap fap fap
Haunted
Member
Jackson said:Buy the NP mag when it comes out on shelves next week.
-Developed by 5TH Cell.
-DS Only.
-Out this Fall.
-Yes, D-pad controls for Maxwell are in along with significantly improved stylus controls and camera is now fixed.
-Big updates to physics (it's still DS, but it's vastly improved).
-Levels are revamped completely improved (no more solving every level with rope/unicorn/death/etc), levels are deeper in content.
-The 10,000 words refers to adjectives, we didn't add 10,000 new objects, we put in 10,000 new adjectives (we put in some new words too).
-You can string adjectives together.
There's a lot more info in the NP article, buy it!
Jackson said:Buy the NP mag when it comes out on shelves next week.
-Developed by 5TH Cell.
-DS Only.
-Out this Fall.
-Yes, D-pad controls for Maxwell are in along with significantly improved stylus controls and camera is now fixed.
-Big updates to physics (it's still DS, but it's vastly improved).
-Levels are revamped completely improved (no more solving every level with rope/unicorn/death/etc), levels are deeper in content.
-The 10,000 words refers to adjectives, we didn't add 10,000 new objects, we put in 10,000 new adjectives (we put in some new words too).
-You can string adjectives together.
There's a lot more info in the NP article, buy it!
So:
Can we now confirm Giant Flaming Bear?
Yay!Jackson said:Buy the NP mag when it comes out on shelves next week.
-Developed by 5TH Cell.
Okay!Jackson said:
Some day may you spread to Steam as well!
I HUG YOU NOW.Jackson said:
Jackson said:
There's a lot more info in the NP article, buy it![/QUOTE]
Sounds good.
I shall look forward to it!Father_Brain
Banned
Jackson said:
Really DS-only, or 5th Cell is only developing the DS version, or "we're not ready to announce," or what?
Not that I expect much of an answer if it's not the first one, but that WBIE leak has been accurate thus far, and I would like to be able to play it with a keyboard and mouse.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Cow Mengde said:
Well guys, Im sure Jeremiah is going to come when he sees the title thread and explain some of the things, but I can say Ive been working in the design objects department and its been awesome. And yeah, adjectives work now. Some of the new objects are sure very cool.
Its funny I was hearing today the Gafcast and they said they wanted an improved Scribblenauts 2 but they were sure they were not going to listen to them :lol
Good I can talk about it now!
EDIT:
Well, I was beaten by the boss :lol
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Hell yeah!
The first game was great!
Hopefully I'll still be in the second game. =)
Edit: If you guys have a launch party on the East Coast, I'm there. =)
The first game was great!
Hopefully I'll still be in the second game. =)
Edit: If you guys have a launch party on the East Coast, I'm there. =)
SirPenguin
Member
Real men already have one and never let them go!Tiger uppercut said:
SirPenguin
Member
Jackson said:Buy the NP mag when it comes out on shelves next week.
-Developed by 5TH Cell.
-DS Only.
-Out this Fall.
-Yes, D-pad controls for Maxwell are in along with significantly improved stylus controls and camera is now fixed.
-Big updates to physics (it's still DS, but it's vastly improved).
-Levels are revamped completely improved (no more solving every level with rope/unicorn/death/etc), levels are deeper in content.
-The 10,000 words refers to adjectives, we didn't add 10,000 new objects, we put in 10,000 new adjectives (we put in some new words too).
-You can string adjectives together.
There's a lot more info in the NP article, buy it!
Will do, bossman. Glad to see you guys hitting the sequel so soon!
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
Member
I concur!! Rooster Hat redux at Nintendo World?Dacvak said:
Hours Left
Member
This is good news. Hopefully they are going to implement all the fixes that the game requires.
The concept is excellent, it just needs some polishing.
The concept is excellent, it just needs some polishing.