I don't mind if they put an English dub in there *if and only if* they include the original Japanese language track, too. Given that, I still can't imagine this game spoken in English... games like MGS *work* in English, because the theme/setting is very western (and the dub is done well), but in a game like this, it just doesn't mix.
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SEGA announces Ryu Ga Gotoku for Europe/US
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jetpacks was yes
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I watch plenty of foreign movies and don't need to understand the languages to tell the difference between good and bad acting.
OB1 said:
I think Japanese voice acting is better because it's usually more theatrical. There also seems to be a lot more emotion in it. Japanese VAers aren't afraid to scream at the top of their lungs when something happens, American VAers just go "Ahhhhhhh". There's a big difference.
Blackcherry
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Jap dub = me buy
Fishie flop oog
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ivysaur12 said:
Shout all you want people but Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic Heroes are far beter decisions Sega made then Ryu ga Gotoku will ever be.
Cheap and crap million sellers, ROI on em will be far better then what Ryu ga Gotoku can ever achieve.
RGG is the sort of game we love Sega for but lets not kid ourselves, its not the sort of stuff that keeps Sega profiteable.
Fishie flop oog
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SnakeXs said:
Can I use your crystal ball for a second?
I'm pretty sure I speak for most everyone here in saying that games like Shadow the Hedgehog make me want to see Sega go bankrupt. And quickly.Hajiki said:
If they truly cared only of profitability, they could leverage a shitton of their Saturn and DC properties on the PSP, which would provide amazing returns, especially the lesser available classics like Panzer Dragoon Saga and NiGHTS.
Magicpaint
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Hajiki said:
Good point, but I think what he meant by 'best decision' is more from a gamer's perspective. A great game from Sega coming to the west? That's great news and a great decision by Sega for us gamers.
I mean not many gamers (if any) want Sega to keep making games like Shadow the Hedgehog just to maintain profitability even though it's good for them.
Parallax Scroll
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Since premium-priced "collector's editions" are all the rage these days, why not release a regular edition of the game that's only dubbed in English, and a more expensive 2-disc or dual layer collector's edition with both language options?
cos they probably can't get the programming time out of sega japan to make this happen, and they probably don't have the budget or schedule assigned to the localization to accomplish anything elaborate.Parallax Scroll said:
seriously, nobody should be expecting japanese voices on this. english voices are a requirement for a PS2 game for it to come out, at the sony level. japanese voices are a bonus. the only way we're going to get both is if there's already room on the disc. someone who has the game already should just investigate how much empty disc space there is on the thing and report back. =P
Red Blaster
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If I were Sega, I'd record the English dub at a really low bitrate, leaving room on the disc for the Japanese track.
Buffy4ever
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ghibli99 said:
Well the Japanese version of MGS has Japanese voices. I hear no one complaining about that. Then again no one buys the Japanese Metal Gears. I too would like the choice of langauage, but I think alot of people on this forum are being hypocrites. When a Japanese game or anime have Western type characters they always speak Japanese for the general Japanese consumer, but when the game or anime is translated for the English speaking consumer, People: whine ,bitch, and complain. Every country translates stuff, stop being hardcore and elite. Expect Sega to translate this. If they didn't it wouldn't sell to anyone but the elite gamer or Sega fan. Also, thank you Sega for bringing this game out to the states!
jetpacks was yes
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ferricide said:
Seriously? English voices? Subtitles aren't enough?
Cold-Steel
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Yes. Now the PlayStation 2 is the REAL spiritual successor to the Dreamcast.
jetpacks was yes
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sonic4ever said:
Metal Gear is about some white dudes in the US military and stuff, who would normally speak English, no? "Yakuza" is about some Japanese dudes in Japan. It's just more natural to have them speak their language.
Of course, I'm still gonna buy this game, but it would be great if we could get the Japanese track.
Uncle Dukey
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About the "English voice mandatory thing", was that a recent change? I remember Sega/RED's Gungrave being Japanese only.
I <3 Katamari said:Why the hell did you sell your PS2 in the first place?
On another note, why the hell are people wanting to keep the Japanese dub? Just import the damn thing. It's an American game, 97% of people want it to be in English.
I mean having both would be nice, but most games don't do that. So just import.
How does a guy with the handle I <3 Katamari support dubs?
meltpotato
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Not only will the Voices be English, but its a safe bet to assume everything they possibly can will be GTAed. I've already prepared myself for lots of "Yo" and "Bro". *sigh*
To those clamoring for a US dub, would you watch a Japanese made Yakuza film in dub? I CERTAINLY wouldnt. I remember i had such high hopes for this gen when Armored Core launched in Japan with two vocal tracks.
To those clamoring for a US dub, would you watch a Japanese made Yakuza film in dub? I CERTAINLY wouldnt. I remember i had such high hopes for this gen when Armored Core launched in Japan with two vocal tracks.
exactly what i was thinking....Flynn said:
Buffy4ever
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OB1 said:
With that attitude, shouldn't Konami have dubbed the Metal Gear solid 4 demo, and all the previous Metal Gear game all in English for the Japanese release, becuase it about a english speaking white dude. I didn't hear no one complaing about Metal Gear solid Japanese track for the tokyo toy show demo. I for one think the English voice acting in Metal Gear soilid is better then the what i have heard of the Japanese voice acting for Metal Gear. Really Sega just needs to hire a good voice acting agencey like konami did.
Some one mentioned gungrave va, I think it had Japanese voice acting because it was a budget release, I think. I could be wrong on that one.
It all goes back to the issue of whether you want to experience something the way it was originally intended, or to have it dubbed in another language. Most people have a certain tolerance either way, and some are purists who simply can't have it one way or the other.sonic4ever said:
MGS is a Japanese game with a western theme. It being done originally in Japanese makes sense (I'm sure Japan has just as many people who want to "hear" their games/movies vs. reading them as there are in other parts of the world), and it's not like the Japanese dub track sucked... in fact, it was quite excellent. Playing the MGS and MGS3 demos in Japanese w/ English subtitles really made me wish *we* could have an international version like that.
Additionally, MGS Integral had the English language track for the Japanese market, so there must've been at least some demand for this in Japan to give the game a more western flavor overseas.
I don't think people are being hypocrites in this case. A Japanese language track simply fits the theme/atmosphere of Ryu ga Gotoku better than an English one would.
jetpacks was yes
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sonic4ever said:
Well, you know, I think you're not hearing people complain about that because we are actually getting the English audio track for the US version. Also, who knows if Japanese gamers complain about MGS being in Japanese or not. Frankly I don't care. We're talking about a game that takes place in modern day Japan with relatively realistic Japanese characters sounding more natural in the original audio track. If that sounds elitist to you then oh well. I apologize on behalf of us "hardcore elitist snobs".
Pedigree Chum
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Summer 2006? FUCK YES!
This game is so mine, Sega is back bitches
This game is so mine, Sega is back bitches
Father_Brain
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Question: did anyone really think this wasn't coming to the US?
Ganondorf>Link
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Reznor said:
Well I also want Okami, MGS3:Subsistence, and DMC3:SE.
HomerSimpson-Man said:
I wanted Fable really bad back when it first came out. So I sold my PS2 for an Xbox. After about 9 months, I sold the Xbox after playing all the games I wanted for it. Since then, I've been tempted to buy a PS2 again because of Okami.
Red Blaster
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The sony-hatin' DCharlie liked it, it must be good!
Prince of Space
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Yes, but Sony doesn't play by their own rules.drohne said:
OB1 said:
Unlikely. Without knowledge of the language, you have no clue as to the proper stresses of certain words and syllables, the appropriateness of the intensity of the delivery, or numerous other things that only someone fluent in the language would know. It sounds good in your head because when you read the subtitle, you don't read it as a bad English voice actor would read it. You absorb it as part of the scene and use the inflection of the unintelligible audio as a guide to how the line is intended. However, you have no idea if the acting job is any good or not.
The primary reason subs tend to be superior to dubs in anime and games is that ridiculous situations and shitty writing is easier to accept in that sort of second-hand form rather than listening to an English voice actor struggle with the material. I, too, would prefer to play Yakuza subbed, but it's not a make-or-break issue for me.
MattKeil said:
I agree. The way I think of it is this:
Let's say there's a line in the game that's a question, like "What are you doing here?"
where the stressed words are you and here.
Now, in Japanese, sentence structure and word stresses are probably completely different, but as long as it sounds like "blah blah BLAH blah blah BLAH?" a non japanese speaker would think it's good, regardless of its adherence to japanese language standards, would they not?
Katana_Strikes
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Reilly said:
They will for the UK