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[ElMexiMerican]

Hey guys, how much of an improvement in the sound quality are these compared to the ATH-M50X? Have had those for almost a year now, and I'm not sure if the retail price for these are indicative of better quality or not.

 

[GinoFelino]

Hey guys, how much of an improvement in the sound quality are these compared to the ATH-M50X? Have had those for almost a year now, and I'm not sure if the retail price for these are indicative of better quality or not.

Ha, you're like the fourth person asking that question.

They're likely a huge upgrade overall (imo!), but YMMV considering the type of music/audio signature you enjoy.

 

[hoserx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVFKbVPTdG8

I'm fully aware of what a modmic is...... but I'm pretty sure the inline mic that comes with these is not one of them.

 

[Tinúviel]

As a Sony MDR1-R owner just bought this i wanted to buy a HD598 but they're a bit pricey and no mic.

 

[ElMexiMerican]

Ha, you're like the fourth person asking that question.

They're likely a huge upgrade overall (imo!), but YMMV considering the type of music/audio signature you enjoy.

Lmao, I probably should have looked through the whole thread. Thanks for the reply though, appreciate it.

 

[firehawk12]

Price is 110 in Canada, which is kind of amazing.

 

[GinoFelino]

You could get an SMSL SD793-II and connect your headset to your PS4 with that. It should be the superior option to connecting to your controller.
And of course, I'm not comparing them to the likes of the Sony Wireless Gold Headset or anything. With or without bluetooth connection, those shit sound awful. Even a controller-connected HD 598 should be better than that.

Right, my bad. I thought you were looking for an alternative.

Sure, but for non-audiophiles, I think plugging this into the controller will be a very pleasant experience/ 'compromise'

 

[hoserx]

You could get an SMSL SD793-II and connect your headset to your PS4 with that. It should be the superior option to connecting to your controller.
And of course, I'm not comparing them to the likes of the Sony Wireless Gold Headset or anything. With or without bluetooth connection, those shit sound awful. Even a controller-connected HD 598 should be better than that.

Right, my bad. I thought you were looking for an alternative.

Nope, I was commenting on these cans. I have a pair of Hd600s that I use with a Behringer B1 microphone on a Fast Track Pro.

 

[EBreda]

If this is anything like the regular 598 (which I bought 2 years ago for the same price at Amazon's BF) the cable is not a standard 3.5mm, but the thick one usually used on amps and receivers.

The open 598s does come with an adaptor for regular outputs, but it sticks out like a big sore thumb. I wouldn't recommend connecting that to a controller.

IF they are the same, mind you. If it's a regular 3.5mm cable, then go for it.

Edit: explained. Thanks. Go for it people!

 

[hoserx]

Of course, but if you're going to buy an HD 598 for your PS4, you might as well spend the extra couple of bucks to get everything out of your headset =D. If not immediately, then in the future.
Ah, well forget I said anything about the modmic. My bad.

The antlion is an awesome mic that I highly recommend people match up with a pair of Hd558s for a great solution.

 

[GinoFelino]

If this is anything like the regular 598 (which I bought 2 years ago for the same price at Amazon's BF) the cable is not a standard 3.5mm, but the thick one usually used on amps and receivers.

The open 598s does come with an adaptor for regular outputs, but it sticks out like a big sore thumb. I wouldn't recommend connecting that to a controller.

IF they are the same, mind you. If it's a regular 3.5mm cable, then go for it.

Just look it up, man You're just confusing people!

The HD 598 Cs comes with two detachable cables: a 3m cable with a 6.3-mm jack for a home entertainment system and a 1.2m cable with a 3.5mm jack featuring a one-button remote with mic for controlling music and taking phone calls.

 

[ngower]

I can't decide if I should be financial responsible and stick with my 555s/IEM combo, or pick up a (possibly overdue) new pair. The mic is an added benefit cause my PS Gold headset is kind of annoying.

 

[DragonKnight]

How do these compare to the M50x?

 

[GinoFelino]

Hahaha 'How do these compare to the M50x?' is the new 'But what do you DO in NMS?'

I can't decide if I should be financial responsible and stick with my 555s/IEM combo, or pick up a (possibly overdue) new pair. The mic is an added benefit cause my PS Gold headset is kind of annoying.

Dude, I have the Momentum 2.0s, PS Golds, Sennheiser 598, Sony MDR-10RC and a bunch of mid-range IEMs at home, and I still couldn't resist buying these. Just do it!

 

[New002]

For those of you that have the original non-closed version, or were considering them, but lamented the lack of a mic, I ordered this relatively inexpensive one and it works great.

I'm pumped about being able to use my 598s for gaming, though I liked my 4shots.


Aaaaanyways, if I had a need for closed headphones I'd jump on these so fast

 

[Filthy Casual]

Yeah I impulse bought these, seems a great price and I've never had a good pair of headphones before so I'm sure I'll enjoy them

 

[Renekton]

I'll just copy-paste my opinion from the first page and add to it for more clarity:

Regarding the soundstage, the 598 on offer here is the closed version.

Also for dubstep, IINM sub-bass is key not punchy bass.

 

[Koppai]

These don't have Bluetooth in them right? :<

 

[Firebrand]

Give the Hyper X Cloud line some credit, they're at least based on real headphones, which already puts them above other headsets.



That being said, you should buy a good pair of headphones and a separate mic. I usually recommend the HD 598s for first-time buyers as they're open, relatively cheap, and don't require an amp.

That image doesn't seem entirely correct, the mic on the QH-85/90 is detachable. But yeah, the 85 are alright, just hope my second pair last longer than the first which died in a less than a year.

 

[GinoFelino]

Regarding the soundstage, the 598 on offer here is the closed version.

Yeah, the 598 Cs and normal 598 have jack shit in common, really. Except for the fact they're both totally worth getting at $99.

These don't have Bluetooth in them right? :<

Nope.

 

[Kwansu Dudes]

Regarding the soundstage, the 598 on offer here is the closed version.

The 598 C also has slightly more bass (10hz 598 C vs 12hz 598 SE). the top rated review also mentions that the C has slightly elevated mid range as well.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Nice price but I don't like the design of these headphones. They are prone to cracking. I wish it were metal instead of plastic, especially at that price point.

 

[SwiftSweeper]

I have V-Moda Crossfade M-100 (link). I use them for DJing, and listening to music on my IPhone and Macbook Air. I also use them for PSVR, but the fit is tight with PSVR.

I primary listen to House, Techno, Electronica, Downtempo, Drum 'n' Bass, Ambient etc. I listen to other genres on an occasion.

I also have Skullcandy PLYR1 (wireless Dolby Surround gaming headphone; link), which I use for regular non VR gaming and late night movie watching.

I also have Sennheider PX 100, which I use mainly for working out.

Would HD598 CS be a significant upgrade for me?

Should I get these?

I am tempted due to the sale, but I do not want to waste my money either.

Any advice?

 

[GinoFelino]

Nice price but I don't like the design of these headphones. They are prone to cracking. I wish it were metal instead of plastic, especially at that price point.

This is a new model, released only a couple of months ago.

Newer Sennheiser models don't crack anymore, so this should be fine.

I have V-Moda Crossfade M-100 (link). I use them for DJing, and listening to music on my IPhone and Macbook Air. I also use them for PSVR, but the fit is tight with PSVR.

I primary listen to House, Techno, Electronica, Downtempo, Drum 'n' Bass, Ambient etc. I listen to other genres on an occasion.

I also have Skullcandy PLYR1 (wireless Dolby Surround gaming headphone; link), which I use for regular non VR gaming and late night movie watching.

I also have Sennheider PX 100, which I use mainly for working out.

Would HD598 CS be a significant upgrade for me?

Should I get these?

I am tempted due to the sale, but I do not want to waste my money either.

Any advice?

Skullcandys -> Gigantic upgrade in sound quality but not wireless
Sennheiser PX100 -> Those are lovely, but yeah, big upgrade
V-Moda -> Not an upgrade at all, but they will sound very different. Sennheisers have a very characteristic sound.

But these are too big for working out and they don't have the ease of use of being wireless, so I'd say your V-Modas suffice. You don't really need these.

 

[Deleted member 20920]

I'm also starting to reconsider my order. How much better would it be compared to a Sony MDR100AAP?

 

[jett]

Nice price but I don't like the design of these headphones. They are prone to cracking. I wish it were metal instead of plastic, especially at that price point.

Heh, my 555s also have slight cracks. I guess Sennheiser never learned or cared to fix it.

The pads are also starting to come off lol. :|

 

[Grief.exe]

You don't want closed headphones for gaming.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

You don't want closed headphones for gaming.

Why not?

 

[Izayoi]

Would the 360s be better for gaming? They are open back and also $99.

 

[Lockjaw333]

Why not?

Closed headphones are fine for gaming. Sound stage is better on open since they are well, open. But closed also is good in other ways, keeping outside noise out, allowing you to concentrate on just the game audio. Also many people require closed because they share a space or have roommates, etc.

 

[GinoFelino]

You don't want closed headphones for gaming.

Nonsense.

Why not?

Because he's making a waaay too general statement.

Closed headphones are fine for gaming. Sound stage is better on open since they are well, open. But closed also is good in other ways, keeping outside noise out, allowing you to concentrate on just the game audio. Also many people require closed because they share a space or have roommates, etc.

Basically this. I'll add that soundstage won't be open-back 598 level, but soundstage on closed-backs can still be great and more than good enough for gaming. Besides, I think a tight bass is just as important for movies/gaming as soundstage is.

 

[Fatal Futanari]

How do the Vmoda M-100s compare to these?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LDTRJG4/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[GinoFelino]

How do the Vmoda M-100s compare to these?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LDTRJG4/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Scroll up a little

Edit:
Sorry. Wait, what? How do the V-Modas compare to the Sennheiser PC thing? I thought you meant 'these' as in 'the headphones this thread is about'

 

[SwiftSweeper]

This is a new model, released only a couple of months ago.

Newer Sennheiser models don't crack anymore, so this should be fine.



Skullcandys -> Gigantic upgrade in sound quality but not wireless
Sennheiser PX100 -> Those are lovely, but yeah, big upgrade
V-Moda -> Not an upgrade at all, but they will sound very different. Sennheisers have a very characteristic sound.

But these are too big for working out and they don't have the ease of use of being wireless, so I'd say your V-Modas suffice. You don't really need these.

Yeah, I thought so too. Thanks!

 

[Omnistalgic]

thanks OP....

been looking for a nicer pair of cans at a decent price

 

[Fatal Futanari]

Scroll up a little

Edit:
Sorry. Wait, what? How do the V-Modas compare to the Sennheiser PC thing? I thought you meant 'these' as in 'the headphones this thread is about'

Well the headphone I linked is basically the non C version of the 598s with a mic so that's why I asked here. Yes, I am asking how they compare. My M-100s are going out and would like a better mic as well.

 

[Renekton]

Closed headphones are fine for gaming. Sound stage is better on open since they are well, open. But closed also is good in other ways, keeping outside noise out, allowing you to concentrate on just the game audio. Also many people require closed because they share a space or have roommates, etc.

Still, if external noise (both directions) is not an issue, gaming sounds better on open than closed.

 

[Izayoi]

Anyone have opinions on these vs. the Senn 360 headset?

My wife has a pair of 360s already and its quite nice, just curious which one I should pick.

 

[GinoFelino]

Well the headphone I linked is basically the non C version of the 598s with a mic so that's why I asked here. Yes, I am asking how they compare. My M-100s are going out and would like a better mic as well.

Hm, what makes you say that? From what I've heard, the PC360 is more like a 558 with a mic.

Still, if external noise (both directions) is not an issue, gaming sounds better on open than closed.

It's complete nonsense to make a general statement like 'gaming sounds better on open than closed'. It all depends which open-back headphones and which closed-back headphones you're comparing.

Even then: what kind of games? Positioning is more important for stealth games and shooters, but for many other genres it's mostly irrelevant.

 

[darkwing]

wow this is some crazy bargain

 

[Pheace]

Heh, my 555s also have slight cracks. I guess Sennheiser never learned or cared to fix it.

The pads are also starting to come off lol. :|

Haha, my HD555's also ended up like that (after years of using them and dropping them regularly). Had them taped together at some point. Still sounded great and still worth every penny imo.

@topic... wow, I ordered these as soon as I saw them and I didn't even know it had a mic xD

 

[Izayoi]

Hm, what makes you say that? From what I've heard, the PC360 is more like a 558 with a mic.

So they are a step below these, even though they are open-backed? (The PC360s I mean.)

 

[GinoFelino]

So they are a step below these, even though they are open-backed? (The PC360s I mean.)

Well, the headphones ITT are a new closed-back version of the open-back HD598, but afaik the PC360 is not on the same level as the open-back HD598, no.

 

[Munter]

Ordered a pair from Amazon UK. Will be good for the office and/or for use with my Vive

 

[Renekton]

It's complete nonsense to make a general statement like 'gaming sounds better on open than closed'. It all depends which open-back headphones and which closed-back headphones you're comparing.

Even then: what kind of games? Positioning is more important for stealth games and shooters, but for many other genres it's mostly irrelevant.

This is a safe claim to make, assuming roughly similar quality.

Not sure about gaming performance/professional, this is mostly about enjoying audio.

Edit: for positional, narrower soundstage on closed could mean sound is flatter and distance is less discernible

 

[Auctopus]

I bought these before the thread hit the second page but props to Gino for all the helpful answers.

 

[sweetvar26]

Noob question, how do I get these to work with the Xbox One? Without the receiver.

 

[GinoFelino]

This is a safe claim to make, assuming roughly similar quality.

Not sure about gaming performance/professional, this is mostly about enjoying audio.

Guess we'll have to disagree on that

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I bought these before the thread hit the second page but props to Gino for all the helpful answers.

Thanks!

Noob question, how do I get these to work with the Xbox One? Without the receiver.

If you have the old model controller, you're going to need to buy the little receiver thing for your controller. If you don't need to use the mic, you could also get a 3.5mm extender cable and plug it directly into your TV. Or you could get a newer model controller with a 3.5mm jack.

 

[Deadbeat]

Price is 110 in Canada, which is kind of amazing.

Im ordering them as soon as i get to work.

Goodbye ath30x. You served me well. You will be my laptop bag headphones now.

 

[sweetvar26]

If you have the old model controller, you're going to need to buy the little receiver thing for your controller. If you don't need to use the mic, you could also get a 3.5mm extender cable and plug it directly into your TV. Or you could get a newer model controller with a 3.5mm jack.

Ah! Alright thanks.