So you're implying that Nintendo's refusing to grease the media with preferential treatment by doing their own thing? I'm still not seeing how this is bad.
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SESSLER'S SOMETHING Nintendo Skipping Their E3 Press Conference
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So you're implying that Nintendo's refusing to grease the media with preferential treatment by doing their own thing? I'm still not seeing how this is bad.
Zen_Arcade
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I love how when Iwata does things like this its supposed to be something stupid but when Peter Moore comes on stage with a Halo 2 tattoo and Kaz gets up on stage saying "RIDGEEEEE RACERRRR" we giggle and clap and make a meme out of it.
elbourreau
Member
STOP SCREAMING!!!
Why are you so invested in this? As a journalist, Sessler is part of the group that will be covering this. I don't agree with some of his conclusions, but he clearly has some perceptions about the necessity of a presser that probably are echoed by other journalists.
Carpe Diem
Banned
How would you define struggling as it relates to Nintendo as a COMPLETE gaming company?
grimshawish
Banned
WHY ARE WE SHOUTING
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
I prefer games, which is why I get excited about them at E3.
E3 is about videogames. You know there's more to videogames than just playing them right?
The magic of live versus pre-recorded, I guess.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
If journalists would rather sit through another shitty press conference (that they've been complaining more and more each year about how disappointing they are) then get private hands on time with upcoming games then video game journalism is shittier then we could have ever imagined.
That's like Roger Ebert being mad that he's getting a private screening of all of a studios upcoming movies instead of having to sit in a conference room where they show clips of the movies in between sales numbers and live music events.
maquiladora
Member
Woah. Calm down, whats with the all caps and calling gaf blind?
If he was saying something that most people would disagree with then I think you wouldn't be seeing this...
I really hate analogies...
But to clean it up a bit more
It would be like if Nintendo went to the restaurant with just its close friends for a birthday while MS and Sony came with their entire entourage.
Both are going to eat. Both are going to celebrate. One is just gonna make a show about it, the other wants something a bit more reserved and personal.
equippedwithtowel
Member
WHAT?
his video is so butt and people here are saying RIGHT ON THE MONEY, SPOT ON. That is bullshit.
This is how his video runs:
explains that big news happened with nintendo. not doing e3 press conference, tells what their actually doing, smaller events along with nintendo direct formated videos.
GOES ON RANT ABOUT OLD LOVEY DOVEY NINTENDO AND THAT THEY JUST NEED GAMES AND HE HOPES THAT MAYBE ONE PERSON IN NINTENDO IS MAKING GAMES. THEY ARE MAKING TO MANY MISTAKES PLEASE MAKE GAMES. NINTENDO SO MANY MISTAKES.
He barely touched upon whether doing or not doing a press conference is good or bad and why that is. he just went on a rant about how they need games and how they just made mistakes(which I'm guessing is the news topic of not doing a traditional press conference.) And yes that is true but irrelevant, and widely known.
The whole reason they are changing their format is to have tight focus on their new software. Exactly what he is ranting about. Members in this mess thread have better perspective's than he showed, and he's a big figure in the game press world?And people are saying that he is god after seeing this? I like sessler, and I subscribe to his feed, but yeah, his latest something is butt.
Dave Meltzer
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Both are stupid, but at least Peter Moore didn't make wacky videos every month.
Still not seeing how the reserved and personal method is bad.
No he only permanently tattooed two release dates on each of his arms for all eternity (discounting laser surgery) then left to work for a company that deals in neither franchise.
But I would like to be part of the Nintendo party.
As a consumer, how is the end experience different for you?
Zen_Arcade
Banned
I agree that neither matter to me much and both are stupid. But that post was in response to someone who thinks that ND is just Iwata talking in front of a white screen. The whole point is that just as many wacky stupid antics happen during ND that would happen during E3, so people who watch for stupid memes still get stupid memes.
Woah. Calm down, whats with the all caps and calling gaf blind?
If he was saying something that most people would disagree with then I think you wouldn't be seeing this...
Youtueb likes lol.
You seen the comments on YT?
It's a sesspool of idiocy, last thing I would ever depend on to support an argument is people agreeing/liking with a video.
Because representing the company is part of his job as president.
Not sure if trolling...
equippedwithtowel
Member
Dave Meltzer
Banned
What does this have to do with me wondering why a CEO is spending his time in front of the camera trying to be funny rather than doing his job?
Iwata kind comes across as the kind of guy more interested in his personal brand than Nintendo.
I'd be interested to hear how - as a journalist - what he has to do to cover Nintendo adequately will change in a way to make it more difficult for him.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
You don't see what's going on here? The PlayStation meeting is just the prologue, the entrée, the tip of the iceberg. And I anticipate MS taking the same approach. Sony spent all that time talking about tech and vision so they could use their valuable press conference time to announce the things people care about more: Games, price, the physical console, launch lineup etc.
That's the big deal. Those are the megatons. And they'll always choose E3 as the site to drop them.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Forced memes aren't funny. That stupid action figure they tried to turn in to a meme was shit. But that stupid asshole drumming Wii Music was great.
odhiex
Member
It may sounds mad, maybe I am... but I don't know. I am not going to posts some crazy analysis on this B-) but I love to be proven wrong. We'll see...
Let's see how big the announcements they are going to make on those smaller stages + N-directs?~
how significant they are?~
how many third parties (especially the western devs/pubs) will be there exclusively for the WiiU?~
how strong the 1st parties line-up for the WiiU is?~
I don't know.. and I even don't know how to post predictions on them. BUT this is how I feel right now (like what Sessler's said) general reaction = disappointing news.
Woah. Calm down, whats with the all caps and calling gaf blind?
If he was saying something that most people would disagree with then I think you wouldn't be seeing this...
Of course it's all positive.
He's talking into an echo chamber
;-)
Drinking the Brera Kool-Aid
I feel he represents the brand.. Nintendo has always been an unorthodox company.. so of course the President would present their information in a quirky/off beat manner
And you act like recording an hour long video is taking away tons of work from him
Or one invites everyone to come and join in, the other hides out the back trying to be all VIP and stuff.
There is no difference, I guess. If Nintendo decides to scale down on E3 this year, it is their decision. I have voiced my dissapointment about this already.
It won't have an impact on the creative teams developing the next Mario 3D or the next Zelda title.
Even if I'm not a convinced believer of Nintendo console strategy and 3rd party strategy, I still think there is a lot to show. And E3 is a big show, asking for big performances.
Or one invites everyone to come and join in, the other hides out the back trying to be all VIP and stuff.
Not a fair analogy either.. since MS and Sony (EA and Ubi) pressers are by invite only as well.
There won't be an answer to that. I think people are just more wrapped up in the nostalgia of having the "Big Three" do their annual song and dance. As a journalist he'll have even MORE access to the games, before everyone else, faster access to announcements, so I'm not sure why this is a huge deal to them. They don't have to sit through awkward live demos of crap that half works like Sony and MS and Nintendo used to force them to do. And get real play time with games before anyone else.
I think it's a good idea, and I fully expect Sony and MS to do the same in a few years. After all why spend money on Usher and JK Rowling when you can have something more intimate and games focused?
And yes, both are already heading that direction, Sony already blew out its PS4 and MS will have a Nextbox meeting 3 weeks BEFORE E3. That should tell you something.
I'm not saying that people don't agree with him. The reason it is so upsetting IS because so many people are agreeing with him. And no ones calling him out. Because he is the new independent guy we love in videogames who said fuck you G4! Sess is so awesome watch his speak his mind. Wow he's so good. Gaf trends. It's like no one read the source material he is speaking upon in the video and is ranting about fucking nothing. In other words, the same shit in this thread.Woah. Calm down, whats with the all caps and calling gaf blind?
If he was saying something that most people would disagree with then I think you wouldn't be seeing this...
OK, so we stand outside the restaurant and press our noses to the glass and watch as the people eat all the food. We then imagine what the food tastes like but we won't actually get to eat for another 6 months or so. When it gets to the eating time, we find out we were not hungry in the first place.
Carpe Diem
Banned
I swear this thread is cracking me up literally with every refresh. Look at the way he 'tosses' his hair. LMAO.You're just jealous of his swag.
I see no reason NOT to have an event at E3. Do it in addition to Nintendo Direct. They need to reach as many people as possible with the message that the Wii U will have games, what it has, and an actual strategy on selling it. Because so far their strategy and marketing has not been working for them, and they seem to be content in not caring about 3rd party support.
People get excited at E3, and the Wii U desperately needs people to feel excited about it. Please be excited.
People get excited at E3, and the Wii U desperately needs people to feel excited about it. Please be excited.
Because representing the company in public is his job? When Steve Ballmer and Steve Jobs did it people respect their willingness to talk to the people directly. Even the CEO of Chryler Sergio Marchionne often does public speeches to discuss future products and features.
They only difference between all these CEOs and Iwata is that Iwata does it in a goofy, fun way. Slamming him because he's doing his job and helping develop brand recognition (something his marketing team that were recently let go) have failed to do recently is just grasping at straws.
Then again I'm humoring a guy who's only spoken in Nintendo threads, often using driveby troll comments, so I don't think this'll make any sense to you at all.
That's because he is Brera.
Again as a consumer, how is this not the e3 experience in general?
Zen_Arcade
Banned
You mean exactly like every other E3?
Sessler is pretty good usually, but Gaf isn't this one entity that thinks as a whole.
equippedwithtowel
Member
Hey, I love every e3 too.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
Ouch! My ears! Don't shout!
He IS pretty good usually. Lol, i just do that because of gaf trends, a term i used to define trendy shit to say on gaf. Sess is trendy right now donukno?
yeah, my all caps is obnoxious as hell, im sorry :O. but this thread has been in constant loop. im going mad. MADWITHSESS
Yeah
Cannot wait! I see the E3 events as an opportunity for people that make games to impress me into buying their products. I really don't care that much who makes them but I certainly like to have it all presented before me so I can make an educated guess. E3 has had its ups and downs but for pure entertainment value (for the good or bad) having a big presser at E3 just cannot be beat.
Kinda like going to those small gigs with 20 -30 people in, against those massive stadium filling gigs. Both are great but they both fill a very different need. Mainly the need to show off.
ArkkAngel007
Member
So what's the megaton from Nintendo that anyone other than GAF/Gamers would care about?
Most here are proving, as Sessler did, that they are against this move because they miss out out on a spectacle that they can either hype up and declare winner of an annual event (while setting them up to be winner of a 7 year console cycle) or tear them apart for being a let down and an embarrassment.
Yes, the public may get wind of there not being a mega-conference and hearing through yellow journalism that Nintendo is conceding absolute defeat and the company is about to die. Likely wouldn't be front page news for more than a few hours on AOL/Yahoo as a line blurb rather than a feature article, and USAToday, CNN, and most news outlets in general either won't mention it or it will be buried off somewhere.
That bit of perception though is the only real consequence of this entire thing, and that may be mitigated/avoided entirely if Nintendo takes certain steps with their presentations on site and through the Directs.
Edit: To be clear, I was disappointed with this decision initially. However, I also can admit that I just am used to the stage presentations and everything surrounding it.