magwizsorc
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I think that in order for the mechanic to really shine it would require the enemy to have access to a lot more variety.
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Shadow of Mordor Nemesis System....where are the copycats?
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AuthenticM
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The next Assassin's Creed needs to have it.
I also wish Dark Souls III had it.
I also wish Dark Souls III had it.
trikster40
Member
Well, the tough thing is it really has to be a game where the protagonist doesn't necessarily die when killed. LOTR, you were a wraith and came back to life, so it made sense that an enemy that killed you was still around. Theses other games being mentioned, Gears, etc., wouldn't make sense because when you die its game over, retry from last save, checkpoint, etc.
It could make sense in assassins creed because you're in the Animus, but other than that, it would be hard to squeeze it into a game.
Edit: it would work awesome in Souls games.
It could make sense in assassins creed because you're in the Animus, but other than that, it would be hard to squeeze it into a game.
Edit: it would work awesome in Souls games.
Emperor_EL
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If other Devs are gonna start copying it then they need to make sure it works for every player, every time. The Nemesis system sounded great on paper but it didn't do jack shit in my game.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
It would have been fun to have the Nemesis system in Sunset Overdrive.
Hmm could the Nemesis system be used in something like Total War, it wouldnt be more than an experience system for units you control...
It was a nice idea in SoM but so shallow, as it really didnt do much to prove how you were just another hero in an open world where hierarchal changes really impacted your progress. As soon as it felt like it revolved around you its 'magic' disappeared.
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It was a nice idea in SoM but so shallow, as it really didnt do much to prove how you were just another hero in an open world where hierarchal changes really impacted your progress. As soon as it felt like it revolved around you its 'magic' disappeared.
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I don't really understand. The system did work on its own, but you could manipulate the outcome of power struggles or even incite them yourself. You weren't meant to be 'just another hero', you were meant to use your powers to pull the strings. I think SoM has used this feature really well and it was surprisingly deep in an otherwise shallow experience about killing myriads of orcs.
Vulcano's assistant
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Racing sims is another candidate. People saying it can never work have to think outside the action adventure genre, or stuff where you just kill things with swords and guns.
It played out pretty cool in my game, but I found it kinda frustrating in the end. Due to a few stupid mistakes and freak occurrences I had this beast of an orc who I basically avoided when possible, but when I DID have occasion to kill him he would just come back even if I beheaded him or absorbed his soul or whatever. It basically became the reason I stopped playing the game.
I'd love to see an improved version of it in another game though.
FUUUUUUUCK. That'd be dope.
I could also see something a lot like it it playing well in a wrestling game. Or any sport really. Hockey and even baseball kinda write themselves.
I'd love to see an improved version of it in another game though.
FUUUUUUUCK. That'd be dope.
I could also see something a lot like it it playing well in a wrestling game. Or any sport really. Hockey and even baseball kinda write themselves.
GwyndolinCinder
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Surprised nobody seems to have mentioned it... MGSV?
dapperbandit
Banned
Personally I wish more games had a thing like Metal Slug where your firepower gets enhanced if you get fat
The possibilities are quite endless assuming devs actually want to put the time in to flesh out the system.
With procedural generation being all the rage nowadays, its kind of sad and confusing that the nemesis system hasn't turned into an industry staple.
grosvenor_92
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It wouldn't surprise me if we start seeing some games use a similar type of system.
Developers just need to implement it in a way where it makes sense in terms of the story and without it having it break other aspects of the game.
Developers just need to implement it in a way where it makes sense in terms of the story and without it having it break other aspects of the game.
Freshmaker
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Only if they stayed dead when killed.
FunkyPajamas
Member
My exact same thoughts when reading the thread title.
Didn't we have a thread a few years ago about cool game mechanics that hadn't been replicated in other games? Active Reload would be my number one.
Corpsepyre
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Takes 5 years to release a game now. I'm sure you'll see copycats pouring in sometime.
I was hoping it was included =(
Permanently A
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Why the hell hasn't anyone made a wrestling game using it? It seems pretty much perfect.
because wrestling games are basically all based on big names, which would eliminate the point of it all
choco-fish
Member
This is a really good shout, you could have different clubs and losing to a racer ranks him/her up within that club/team, club gets better looking and driving cars, they push on other clubs making them weaker to keep the difficulty sort of dynamic, this seems like a better fit than SoM.
KefkaPalazzo
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It's a cool concept, but not without its flaws. Would be nice to see it expanded upon in the future, be it in a Modor sequel or a different game.
Hopefully we'll get the sequel soon.
It was a no brainer. Would've made the wastelands much better.
It was a no brainer. Would've made the wastelands much better.
Sorry I didnt explain myself, I mean it should have been a mechanic of an organic world that the hero finds himself in so even if he didnt exist it felt like those things mattered. As youve said, that wasnt really the case...
Great idea, not well implemented. Definitely has potential - really surprised WB didnt do a Ubisoft and made it a compulsory feature post-SoM
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