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[fernoca]

:lol :lol :lol (@ the new title)

 

[Ramenman]

I wish I followed this thread. Just for the title changes.



Not that I care about the game.

 

[GhaleonEB]

What is the point of people coming in here trying to discredit our purchases. Most of us who bought the game are truly enjoying it. In fact, I don't think there's a single person in here who has played it and hasn't enjoyed it. For everybody that's bickering about the price, just wait until it comes down and then buy it then. You won't be disappointed.

No one is trying to discredit your purchase, just explain why they are hesitant to buy it themselves. The demo will probably help make this game's case for many.

 

[RPS37]

o rly?

CS: Source is $0 with Half Life 2.

 

[B_Rik_Schitthaus]

I wish I followed this thread. Just for the title changes.



Not that I care about the game.

Edit: I did not write this post.

 

[Voltron64]

CS: Source is $0 with Half Life 2.

But does it have dwarves with mustaches?

 

[RPS37]

But does it have dwarves with mustaches?

Damn, you win this time, Voltron. :lol

 

[White Man]

What is the point of people coming in here trying to discredit our purchases. Most of us who bought the game are truly enjoying it. In fact, I don't think there's a single person in here who has played it and hasn't enjoyed it. For everybody that's bickering about the price, just wait until it comes down and then buy it then. You won't be disappointed.

<raises hand> I'm not happy with it. It went from good to meh when I realised there was no free for all deathmatch. I don't want to play team games with the mostly retarded Live user base.

 

[MMaRsu]

<raises hand> I'm not happy with it. It went from good to meh when I realised there was no free for all deathmatch. I don't want to play team games with the mostly retarded Live user base.

I haven't had any retarded live matches. It sounds to me like your just trolling White Man. Go and play CS then if you like that better

 

[ToyMachine228]

I'm in on the Shadowrun fun. Bought it a few hours ago. I'll be on in a bit. GT is RyoGCH.

 

[White Man]

I haven't had any retarded live matches. It sounds to me like your just trolling White Man. Go and play CS then if you like that better

Er, I'm not trolling. See me say good things about the game early on? See me do a compelte 180 when I realize it lacks the most basic deathmatch mode ever? It's not trolling, it's a legitimate complaint, and we can all agree that you don't have to play XBL very long before you meet someone "special," and that sucks.

 

[KTallguy]

Er, I'm not trolling. See me say good things about the game early on? See me do a compelte 180 when I realize it lacks the most basic deathmatch mode ever? It's not trolling, it's a legitimate complaint, and we can all agree that you don't have to play XBL very long before you meet someone "special," and that sucks.

Your avatar is super cute

 

[besada]

Er, I'm not trolling. See me say good things about the game early on? See me do a compelte 180 when I realize it lacks the most basic deathmatch mode ever? It's not trolling, it's a legitimate complaint, and we can all agree that you don't have to play XBL very long before you meet someone "special," and that sucks.

Except that's an XBL problem, not a Shadowrun problem, is it?

As for lacking deathmatch, it's a team-based game. It's really that simple. It's designed entirely around the idea of working within a team. If you're looking for one on one play, this is not the game for you, but that doesn't make it a bad game. It just means you're looking in the wrong place for your fun.

 

[White Man]

Except that's an XBL problem, not a Shadowrun problem, is it?

True.

As for lacking deathmatch, it's a team-based game. It's really that simple. It's designed entirely around the idea of working within a team. If you're looking for one on one play, this is not the game for you, but that doesn't make it a bad game. It just means you're looking in the wrong place for your fun.

I could probably have lived with it if they had support for more than 2 teams.

Even still, good teamplay or not, it's definitely not worth 60 bucks for the very limited game modes and the lack of content.

 

[godhandiscen]

I am getting it today. If it sucks I dont give a damn, it will not be the first time Ms gets me into buying a horrible game (Brute Force). However, sometimes the game is a gem (Crimson Skies). So here it goes $60 hoping for the best.

 

[Ravager61]

Er, I'm not trolling. See me say good things about the game early on? See me do a compelte 180 when I realize it lacks the most basic deathmatch mode ever? It's not trolling, it's a legitimate complaint, and we can all agree that you don't have to play XBL very long before you meet someone "special," and that sucks.

I dont think it is a legitimate complaint. The game is designed around teams and rounds. Deathmatch wouldnt work without a significant change to the core gameplay.

edit: ya beat meh

 

[White Man]

I dont think it is a legitimate complaint. The game is designed around teams and rounds. Deathmatch wouldnt work without a significant change to the core gameplay.

edit: ya beat meh

People say this, but what would really have to be changed? Sure, some powers, like resurrection and tree of life, would be useless, but what CORE GAMEPLAY needs to be changed?

 

[Prime crotch]

I dont think it is a legitimate complaint. The game is designed around teams and rounds. Deathmatch wouldnt work without a significant change to the core gameplay.

edit: ya beat meh

Putting Deathmatch free for all aside why aren't there more team based modes then? Not even a capture the flag? Why only Team Deathmatch?

 

[Ravager61]

People say this, but what would really have to be changed? Sure, some powers, like resurrection and tree of life, would be useless, but what CORE GAMEPLAY needs to be changed?

Lots of powers and racial abilities interact in certain ways that deatmatch would not allow for. For instance the Dwarf absorb ability is kind of negated since you can no longer absorb essence from your teammates making it nearly impossible to recover essence. Tree of life is essentially useless, as is resurrection. Trolls are designed around punching through defenses which isnt much use in deathmatch. Pretty much everyone would just play a troll with teleport and smoke in deathmatch since they are the hardest to kill. Im just saying lots of changes would need to be made to make deathmatch a balanced game.

Putting Deathmatch free for all aside why aren't there more team based modes then? Not even a capture the flag? Why only Team Deathmatch?

This is a more legitimate complaint. Id have loved to see a capture the flag type mode or a plant the bomb mode. These could work with the way the game is designed.

 

[White Man]

Lots of powers and racial abilities interact in certain ways that deatmatch would not allow for. For instance the Dwarf absorb ability is kind of negated since you can no longer absorb essence from your teammates making it nearly impossible to recover essence. Tree of life is essentially useless, as is resurrection. Trolls are designed around punching through defenses which isnt much use in deathmatch. Pretty much everyone would just play a troll with teleport and smoke in deathmatch since they are the hardest to kill. Im just saying lots of changes would need to be made to make deathmatch a balanced game.

I'm still not seeing it. If anything, it would make free for all deathmatches more interesting because you'd have to form strategies around taking out specific opponent types.

 

[besada]

I could probably have lived with it if they had support for more than 2 teams.

Even still, good teamplay or not, it's definitely not worth 60 bucks for the very limited game modes and the lack of content.

I agree. Four team combat with special four team modes would have been amazing. And I don't necessarily disagree with you regarding the value proposition. I bought it, but I can reasonably say it's not the best value I've ever gotten for my $60. That said, I have had more fun with it than any number of other games I paid $60 for, so I'm not really that upset about it. And it's not like anyone put a gun to my head and made me buy it.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Kind of a derail, but the resurrection angle opens up a whole realm of possible gametypes; something like the "zombies" Halo 2 variant. They could get really clever with the game types; the three in there are pretty standard.

 

[JdFoX187]

You guys do know there is a capture the flag mode, don't you?

 

[homez99]

I don't know what all the fuss is about, why would you want to be on your own? On the Halo 3 Beta I don't play any other modes apart from the team-based selection like BTB, BTB Training, Team Training, etc. as I really hate to be on my own because I have no one else to blame for my suckage, and you feel all nice and warm in a comfortable team.

 

[Prime crotch]

You guys do know there is a capture the flag mode, don't you?

According to the site you are right, that's Raid mode right?
So aside that one they have Extraction, that is a variation of Capture The Flag where there's only one artifact to be recovered by both teams and the Deathmatch one. Still seems too little for a multi-player focused game, U2K4 had more than the double not to mention an actual single-player mode.

 

[MMaRsu]

guys

who cares

the game is great fun

ALOT OF FUN

60$ is not that much

FUN IS PRICELESS

IM COVERED IN SEMEN

 

[Cheesemeister]

:lol :lol :lol (@ the new title)

Please allow me to echo this sentiment.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

guys

who cares

the game is great fun

ALOT OF FUN

60$ is not that much

FUN IS PRICELESS

IM COVERED IN SEMEN

..................... wow lol...

 

[JdFoX187]

guys

who cares

the game is great fun

ALOT OF FUN

60$ is not that much

FUN IS PRICELESS

IM COVERED IN SEMEN

I <3 this post

 

[Master]

Eurogamer review is up

6/10

Did anybody proofread this review? Am I the only one stumbling over grammatical errors and such?

Or, maybe this review falls in line with the strange UK grammar rules? "Sega are happy" and all that.

 

[MMaRsu]

JdFox, I added you, wanna play now?

 

[Teknopathetic]

"Sega are happy"

In UK English, It's OK to use plural pronouns with collective nouns.

 

[JdFoX187]

JdFox, I added you, wanna play now?

I'm still at work for another 30 min.

 

[MMaRsu]

I'm still at work for another 30 min.

Working hard, or hardly working?

 

[Kewk]

People say this, but what would really have to be changed? Sure, some powers, like resurrection and tree of life, would be useless, but what CORE GAMEPLAY needs to be changed?

If this is truely something the player base wants all you have to do is litter the official forums with the request and I guarantee that at some point it would get released in a patch. If no one is vocal about it the dev will never know anyone wants it thus not worth putting in.

 

[JdFoX187]

Working hard, or hardly working?

The latter of the two, indeed.

 

[onegoodlogan]

"Sega are happy"

In UK English, It's OK to use plural pronouns with collective nouns.

But this is the internet, not the UK.

It should be "Sega am happy".

 

[ToyMachine228]

I just played through the first two chapters of the training and I think I'm going to like Shadowrun Even in the Training I can tell it's going to be tactical and based around your team which I like. If you have a cooperative team at least.

 

[jaypah]

<raises hand> I'm not happy with it. It went from good to meh when I realised there was no free for all deathmatch. I don't want to play team games with the mostly retarded Live user base.

um yeah......what the f*ck were they thinking?

 

[Gowans]

me & QVT are playing at the mo, practicing in some private matches, anyone want in hop over.

this is the first new MS online release where everyone isn't flashing up on my friends list (damn forza)

 

[GhaleonEB]

from penny-arcade:

I lost myself in Shadowrun last night when I intended to play only a single round. I can speak at length on it, and I may, but the demo comes out in a couple days and I have more faith in your gourmet palette than I do my ability to describe how complex some of these relationships are.

When I spoke with the studio head over at FASA about what was next for the team, he laughed and said "Nothing." The people around him also laughed, but it felt more nervous. I thought he might have meant vacation, maybe - but I'd heard the rumors too. When he said "nothing," maybe he was referring to the studio. Maybe he actually meant "oblivion."

 

[ToyMachine228]

from penny-arcade:

Yeah the whole situation with FASA is strange...As far as Shadowrun is, it's a strange project for a developer to do. It's almost like a project that an independent developer would handle. Even if their future is doomed I expect a few Shadowrun DLC packages first.

 

[Narag]

Yeah the whole situation with FASA is strange...As far as Shadowrun is, it's a strange project for a developer to do. It's almost like a project that an independent developer would handle. Even if their future is doomed I expect a few Shadowrun DLC packages first.

I know it won't happen but I wish MS would give DLC free given the initial entry price and to prevent from segmenting what is likely to be a relatively small userbase as is.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

from penny-arcade:

FASA making Oblivion expansion confirmed? :lol

 

[Diablohead]

me & QVT are playing at the mo, practicing in some private matches, anyone want in hop over.

this is the first new MS online release where everyone isn't flashing up on my friends list (damn forza)

Well you better be playing forza next friday

 

[element]

Yeah the whole situation with FASA is strange...As far as Shadowrun is, it's a strange project for a developer to do. It's almost like a project that an independent developer would handle. Even if their future is doomed I expect a few Shadowrun DLC packages first.

FASA is a strange studio that goes up and down. It wouldn't shock me if the people left at FASA simply just turn into a publishing support for 3rd party companies making games based on FASA IPs.

 

[ToyMachine228]

Anyone playing tonight throw me an invite. I just completed all 6 Chapters of training and I'm ready to go online. So invite me to a party and I'll play.

GT: RyoGCH

 

[Bowen_B]

I feel that if Shadowrun had a full single player campaign it could be one of the best FPS ever, I wish it at least had something like the Unreal Torunament / Q3 Arena single player.
It really feels like an unfinished game with tonnes of potential

 

[godhandiscen]

FASA making Oblivion expansion confirmed? :lol

I dont know if this is sarcasm. Just to make it clear, "oblivion" as if the team is done for.

EDIT: The reviews are killing Shadowrun. I do like this game and hopefully (more like in my dreams) I will get a sequel. **** game journalists, I do not agree with any of them when it comes to opinions. They should only report news, but never give their worthless opinion.

 

[Gattsu25]

I dont know if this is sarcasm. Just to make it clear, "oblivion" as if the team is done for.

EDIT: The reviews are killing Shadowrun. I do like this game and hopefully (more like in my dreams) I will get a sequel. **** game journalists, I do not agree with any of them when it comes to opinions. They should only report news, but never give their worthless opinion.

A review is an opinion.