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[kbear]

http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/smithfield_investigation

I want you all to watch this vid. Yes, I am a vegetarian but I'm not trying to convert you or anything, I just want you to watch this vid. Watch the whole thing, it's only a few minutes long. Warning.. the last minute or so is absolutely devastating in every sense of the word.

* Workers dragged injured pigs out of the facility by their snouts, ears, and legs before killing them with a captive-bolt gun. Some of the pigs had "KILL" spray-painted on their backs.

* A farm supervisor admitted that he violently beat pigs, saying of one that he "cut the sh** out of his God damn nose with a f***ing gate rod."

* Workers cut off piglets' tails and pulled out piglets' testicles—without using any pain relief—as the baby animals screamed in pain in front of mother pigs.

* Two workers and a supervisor hit and jabbed pigs—sometimes in their faces and near their ears—with 2-foot-long metal gate rods on 31 of the 41 days that PETA's investigator worked.

* A worker gouged the eyes of four pigs with his fingers. Pigs suffered from ailments including cysts, sores, and a uterine prolapse for which they were denied treatment.

 

[Diablos]

What the fuck is wrong with people?

 

[DarthWaiter]

those assholes who did that to those innocent animals need to be tortured the same way they did to them.


I understand the point of slaughtering animals for food, but in a controlled environment where the animals do not feel it.


But this way, those motherfuckers piss me the fuck off. I hate people who treat animals badly. They deserve to die. They deserve to be tortured.

Any person who treats animals this way is on my shit list.

 

[MidiSurf]

As long i have bacon on my table i don't care.

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This is only way i wan't to see my pig.

 

[chubigans]

PETA can burn right along with those farmers for all I care. They're one of the worst official organizations ever.

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

The eye-gouging sounds pretty bad, but spray-paint on their backs? Who gives a shit about that? They wouldn't even notice.

 

[Slo]

Pigs. They're delicious.

 

[happyfunball]

Killing other animals is never going to be pretty and/or sterile.

The people who will be working in these facilities are likely on the bottom rung of society in both intellect and education. Add on top of that some religious belief that a god gave us these animals to do what we want with them, you can't really expect much respect for other animals lives.

How does PETA feel about growing meat? That seems like the only solution to me other than going veg.

 

[Haly]

Killing other animals is never going to be pretty and/or sterile.

The people who will be working in these facilities are likely on the bottom rung of society in both intellect and education. Add on top of that some religious belief that a god gave us these animals to do what we want with them, you can't really expect much respect for other animals lives.

How does PETA feel about growing meat? That seems like the only solution to me other than going veg.

In the future we will have bacon trees and all will be good and just in the world.

 

[Duke Togo]

I've heard stories about pigs being powerbombed through folding tables ECW style at those farms. I wonder how PETA would deal with that.

 

[MidiSurf]

I've heard stories about pigs being powerbombed through folding tables ECW style at those farms. I wonder how PETA would deal with that.

Does PETA even deal with anything ? All i ever heard about PETA is these kind "shocking" reports and nothing ever changes.

 

[Zeed]

those assholes who did that to those innocent animals need to be tortured the same way they did to them.

Please stfu and stop acting like they're your grandparents or something.

As long i have becon on my table i don't care.

I just had bacon and it was delicious.

 

[harSon]

 

[happyfunball]

In the future we will have bacon trees and all will be good and just in the world.

Maybe we can start with growing it in a petri dish?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_meat

 

[MidiSurf]

Maybe we can start with growing it in a petri dish?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_meat

Superstitious mumbo jumbo.

 

[Ether_Snake]

You see, these people exist in all industries that kill animals. They hate the environmentalists/animal protectionists, so they enjoy hurting the animals even more so out of anger against said people.

Like kicking turtles that they caught in their nets as if they were soccer balls, cutting off the fin of a huge swordfish and pushing it back in the water alive, butchering dolphins they caught accidentally in their nets (out of anger for having to untangle the net), etc.

 

[Ether_Snake]

The eye-gouging sounds pretty bad, but spray-paint on their backs? Who gives a shit about that? They wouldn't even notice.

Because it's a pretty good sign of how the rest of the business acts. Do you really think that European companies piss and shit on automobile parts before they are washed, cause in the end no one will notice anyway?

 

[Keylime]

No point in watching these sensationalist videos.

If you've ever thought about what happens at these farms, then surely you realize that there are violent acts going on there. Then you think about who would be the ones carrying out the acts.

It's just common sense that this shit happens.

But what is the solution? Restart the entire food production industry with conscience friendly methods of killing animals at the cost of billions of dollars? Put the people on trial for animal cruelty?

 

[Sapiens]

Wait, are you trying to tell me that bacon, ham and pork chops all come from the same animal?

 

[Ether_Snake]

But what is the solution? Restart the entire food production industry with conscience friendly methods of killing animals at the cost of billions of dollars? Put the people on trial for animal cruelty?

How about not torturing animals when there are already existing methods that are more appropriate? You know, gouging their eyes, spray painting them, ripping of their testicles, etc., is supposed to be good business? Oh yeah who cares it's profit first right? Let's do the same for everything, from kids' toys to clothes. Fuck work ethic and longterm planing, amirite? Profit now, problems later.

 

[Slo]

Fuck work ethic and longterm planing, amirite? Profit now, problems later.

Pretty sure the spray painted pigs weren't part of the long term plan.

 

[Keylime]

How about not torturing animals when there are already existing methods that are more appropriate? You know, gouging their eyes, spray painting them, ripping of their testicles, etc., is supposed to be good business? Oh yeah who cares it's profit first right? Let's do the same for everything, from kids' toys to clothes. Fuck work ethic and longterm planing, amirite? Profit now, problems later.

So put those guys on trial for animal cruelty?

I said this in my post!

 

[Ether_Snake]

Pretty sure the spray painted pigs weren't part of the long term plan.

Waste of money, waste of production time, potentially toxic, etc.

 

[WickedAngel]

those assholes who did that to those innocent animals need to be tortured the same way they did to them.


I understand the point of slaughtering animals for food, but in a controlled environment where the animals do not feel it.


But this way, those motherfuckers piss me the fuck off. I hate people who treat animals badly. They deserve to die. They deserve to be tortured.

Any person who treats animals this way is on my shit list.

Pretty much what I came here to say. Slaughter is necessary; torture isn't. This was torture.

 

[Slo]

Waste of money, waste of production time, potentially toxic, etc.

No different than marking a tree to be cut.

 

[RiZ III]

Thats awful =(

 

[Zeed]

No but really, I'm pretty sick of self-righteous activists acting like pigs have human rights.

Concerns like the spray paint being potentially toxic to humans are valid, because that's a concern about our species. But that's clearly not what PETA is interested in here. They're too busy trying to humanize cows and chickens to be bothered with their fellow man.

It's like the only time they're ever interested in people is when they're trying to proselytize them with "shocking" video investigations.

 

[DarthWaiter]

Please stfu and stop acting like they're your grandparents or something.


I just had bacon and it was delicious.

are you an animal torturer? This is so inhumane. Like a poster said, slaughter is necessary, but this is torture and it is not needed.

 

[fistfulofmetal]

I'm not watching the video. Regardless of what you say, the only reason you'd show us the video and tell us it's a PETA investigation is to make us think highly of PETA. No matter what happens in the video, it doesn't change the fact that PETA is an psychotic cult of idealists who have no grasp on reality.

 

[Zeed]

This is so inhumane.

I agree. And guess what? Pigs are not human.

Like a poster said, slaughter is necessary, but this is torture and it is not needed.

So what? No really, so what? Am I supposed to feel sorry for the pig?

Jesus, sorry for not having emotional attachments to my dinner.

 

[Keylime]

The big problem here isn't what happens at slaughter farms.

It's the people doing the slaughtering. Just find the ones that are doing stuff that are against regulations and get rid of them if we care so much.

Christ, I hate PETA and vegetarians that push their ideals on others.

 

[Verano]

I hate PETA and vegetarians that push their ideals on others.

QFT!
I wish they were put an asylum with the other crazy liber-lulz.

 

[andymcc]

the pig is god's very own gift to food. i think i'm making pork loin for dinner now.

 

[Trurl]

I agree. And guess what? Pigs are not human.


So what? No really, so what? Am I supposed to feel sorry for the pig?

Jesus, sorry for not having emotional attachments to my dinner.

On what basis have you decided that animal suffering is different than human suffering? It seems like an arbitrary distinction to me.

I doubt very much that any of you would approve of slaughtering profoundly retarded people who are no more intelligent than a pig. Is the difference that humans have souls?

 

[Branduil]

On what basis have you decided that animal suffering is different than human suffering? It seems like an arbitrary distinction to me.

On what basis have you decided that insect suffering is different than human suffering? It seems like an arbitrary distinction to me.

Oh you swatted a fly. You murderer.

 

[Drakeon]

Even though I'm not a vegetarian (and I never plan to be one), torturing the animals is never necessary. They should jail the scumbags who are the ones torturing the pigs or at the very least prevent them from ever working in the food industry again. People who torture animals like that usually have something wrong with them.

 

[Trurl]

On what basis have you decided that insect suffering is different than human suffering? It seems like an arbitrary distinction to me.

Oh you swatted a fly. You murderer.

I'm not sure if flies are able to suffer. It strikes me as self deception to say that pigs can't.

It's really fortunate that humans are able to thrive on a plant based diet, evolution could have dealt us very different cards as far as that goes. It's a waste to not take that fact as an opportunity to be compassionate.

 

[Verano]

I'm not sure if flies are able to suffer. It strikes me as self deception to say that pigs can't.

when you kill something like a fly, you steal that things right to live, dont you think?

 

[7Th]

Pig meat was always unhealthy. I'll stick to my birds, thank you.

 

[andymcc]

On what basis have you decided that animal suffering is different than human suffering? It seems like an arbitrary distinction to me.

I doubt very much that any of you would approve of slaughtering profoundly retarded people who are no more intelligent than a pig. Is the difference that humans have souls?

perhaps eating pork would make you less of a tight ass

 

[Trurl]

when you kill something like a fly, you steal that things right to live, dont you think?

Perhaps. for the record I avoid killing all animals unless they pose some health risk such as mosquitoes or ticks. Even then I try to not kill them with the zeal that many people do.

But still, the important factor is a being's ability to suffer and, to me at least, it seems like all mammalian creatures are able to suffer an awful lot. Suffering is suffering.

 

[Brian Fellows]

Never trust a man who owns a pig farm.

 

[MidiSurf]

I doubt very much that any of you would approve of slaughtering profoundly retarded people who are no more intelligent than a pig. Is the difference that humans have souls?

Pig is animal and retarded person is human. Slaughtering pigs has nothing to do with pigs IQ.

 

[Zeed]

On what basis have you decided that animal suffering is different than human suffering? It seems like an arbitrary distinction to me.

Is this a serious question? You honestly cannot see the distinction between humans and pigs? That's actually fairly disturbing. Are you a member of PETA perchance?

I doubt very much that any of you would approve of slaughtering profoundly retarded people who are no more intelligent than a pig.

This is a stupid analogy. Retarded humans are a member of my species, pigs are not. I have no obligation or inclination to sympathize with my lunch.

If you want to cry for the pig I just ate, that's your prerogative, but don't go shitting on the fine ranchers and meatpackers that work hard to bring the bacon to our tables.

 

[Trurl]

Pig is animal and retarded person is human. Slaughtering pigs has nothing to do with pigs IQ.

That's not much different than distributing rights based on race or on sex. Come up with something more substantive than that. IQ works but has some rather nasty implications. The idea of a human soul works but relies on retarded superstition.

 

[sonatinas]

Unless Peta goes into countries like China their effort is worthless. When I lived there I saw it all on the side of the streets from dog hanging, pig chopping, etc. It's nice they are exposing stuff to the west but in the big picture it's really useless because China eats everything with four legs that isn't wooden.

 

[Souldriver]

Does PETA even deal with anything ? All i ever heard about PETA is these kind "shocking" reports and nothing ever changes.

If everybody reacts like you did in this thread, then no, nothings gonna change.

No but really, I'm pretty sick of self-righteous activists acting like pigs have human rights.

Concerns like the spray paint being potentially toxic to humans are valid, because that's a concern about our species. But that's clearly not what PETA is interested in here. They're too busy trying to humanize cows and chickens to be bothered with their fellow man.

It's like the only time they're ever interested in people is when they're trying to proselytize them with "shocking" video investigations.

No but really, I'm pretty sick of self-righteous activists acting like pigs have human rights.

Concerns like the spray paint being potentially toxic to humans are valid, because that's a concern about our species. But that's clearly not what PETA is interested in here. They're too busy trying to humanize cows and chickens to be bothered with their fellow man.

It's like the only time they're ever interested in people is when they're trying to proselytize them with "shocking" video investigations.

What the flying fuck is this shit!?
I'm not saying animals should be treated just as people, but if you're all like "haha animal torture lolz wheres mah diner!" and don't realise that torture is never ever ok, wether it be on humans or animals, then you are one sad little person.


I've asked it before and I'll have to ask it again cause I didn't get an answer: why again is PETA hated so much? Do they burn down McDonalds restaurants? Do they spit in your steak? Do they beat up people that eat meat? ... If so, then yes, they're morons. If not, and are just trying to make people aware of animal rights, and the vast majority of america doesn't give a fuck about animals and is annoyed by PETA, than the problem lies with the consumer/America/you, not PETA.

I fully expect getting shit trown at me cause PETA is like the modern day nazi's for some of you.

 

[Zeed]

That's not much different than distributing rights based on race or on sex.

So you're comparing sexism and racism to eating pork? Are you fucking kidding me?

(long ass post)

I was looking for something in your post to reply to, but all you're really saying is "lol ur wrong and pathetic". If you're with the "Pork = Racism" nutjobs then say so and get in line kiddo.

 

[Slo]

Perhaps. for the record I avoid killing all animals unless they pose some health risk such as mosquitoes or ticks. Even then I try to not kill them with the zeal that many people do.

But still, the important factor is a being's ability to suffer and, to me at least, it seems like all mammalian creatures are able to suffer an awful lot. Suffering is suffering.

It's nice to evangelize ideals, and it's a shame that crop animals sometimes get mistreated. It's just that when it comes down to it, a ham sandwich's right to die painlessly and with dignity is not worth my outrage, and I've got better things to be pissed of about.

 

[pxleyes]

Cutting off pig tails is a common practice and does not hurt the piglet. If they DONT cut it out, then the piglets will eventually try to eat another piglet's tail. It is a safety measure.