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Should I buy a 3ds GAF?

Fire Emblem, Mario 3d Land, Ocarina of time and Tales of The Abyss are all pretty essential Imo.
luigi's Mansion 2 is pretty great too.

Tales of the Abyss was the game that I feel like I was tricked to buy and play. It's one of the most boring jrpg's I've played in years. At least you can turn that horrendous english dub off. It makes it a little easier to stand.

But yeah, 3DS XL is a good investment. There are lots of reat games to play and more to come. :)
 
It is still the exact same game though. No new gameplay content included. It's an almost entirely aesthetic update. Nothing wrong with that imo of course, but it's interesting to see such venom for ported titles from Nintendo fans when the best game on their favourite console is a port.

I'm seeing a lot of excitement for that Donkey Kong port from some of you in other threads as well on a similar note, and it's a "downgraded port" too, is it not?
I definitely said in the Donkey Kong thread that I had no interest thanks to it being 30fps instead of 60. The framerate increase does wonders for OoT. Ports are fine but I personally have no need for them if the home console version is superior and in the same gen.
 
It is still the exact same game though. No new gameplay content included. It's an almost entirely aesthetic update. Nothing wrong with that imo of course, but it's interesting to see such venom for ported titles from Nintendo fans when the best game on their favourite console is a port.

OoT is one of the best games ever made, so that's not surprising. However, remove it and you still have a library absolutely filled with GOTY contenders that are not on any other platforms. You can't really say the same for the Vita, as much as I would like to play Gravity Rush.
 
Just got a 3DS last week. It's really good and my 3 year old can play Nintendogs relatively well. Mario Bros. 3D land is on point and got a lot of suggestions from other GAFers recently. I'm actually excited about having one. I would say it's worth a look if you like playing handheld games.
 
I just recently picked up a 3DS myself last week and I love the thing. I'm sure I've used it more in the last few days than I've used my Vita in the last couple months.

However, I got it primarily for Nintendo games. If you're not into Mario, Zelda, etc I'd hold off on getting one. That being said, Super Mario 3D Land and Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon are simply outstanding games. Try one out locally at a store if you can.
 
It is still the exact same game though. No new gameplay content included. It's an almost entirely aesthetic update. Nothing wrong with that imo of course, but it's interesting to see such venom for ported titles from Nintendo fans when the best game on their favourite console is a port.

I'm seeing a lot of excitement for that Donkey Kong port from some of you in other threads as well on a similar note, and it's a "downgraded port" too, is it not?

Hmm... anyways. That suggestion of "original" 3DS games being little else than Mario games and JRPGs isn't exactly a million miles away from the actual situation from my perspective either to be quite honest. As I've stated I'm done with the mascot nostalgia side of Nintendo gaming and right now every 3DS game I'm set to buy this year is a JRPG.

To be frank, I'd be fine with more ports on 3DS if it meant I might get a little choice and variety in what I play.

I personally think definitive versions (or remakes in this case) is a worthy addition to console's library but a simple (down)port doesn't excite me that much.

Donkey Kong can be viewed as an inferior port, true. Though it adds 3D, easier mode (the original game could be very hard for some) and 8 new levels. Wouldn't call it simple downgraded port.

Even if you don't count Luigi's Mansion 2 seeing that it features a mascot (though is still a extremely unique game in Mario universe and outside of it) 3DS library is pretty vast in 2013.

-Fire Emblem (I wouldn't exactly call it JRPG myself)
-Animal Crossing
-Pokemon X/Y
-TLOZ:LTTP2
-Guild02
-Mighty Switch Force 2
-Ace Attorney 5 (believe)
-Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright (believex2)
-Mutant Mudds 2 (is this still 2013?)
-Cult County
-Project X Zone
-Whatever I didn't pick up from my head

What? NO. The best games on 3ds are not ports. The best games on vita are, with few exceptions, ports. Make of that what you will.

Yeah I'm pretty sure most would list Fire Emblem or Super Mario 3D Land as their favorite...
 
If you like games, of course you should buy one. Mario 3D Land and Kid Icarus alone did the trick for me, and there are lots of quality new games (retail and downloadable) and classic ports that are worth the price of admission.

If you've got some sort of pre-existing beef with Nintendo products and what they look/sound like, you won't have all that much fun until you can get over that.
 
OoT is one of the best games ever made, so that's not surprising. However, remove it and you still have a library absolutely filled with GOTY contenders that are not on any other platforms. You can't really say the same for the Vita, as much as I would like to play Gravity Rush.

Trust me you don't.
 
Is gravity rush that bad...saw a bunch of posts about it this week...looked good when I saw it but never actually played it.

Some people want you to think is the reason to purchase a Vita.

I think is a tech demo with absolutely laughable gameplay, weak game mechanics, bad missions, little content and godawful story.
 
Damn, I always thought it looked pretty good. What's wrong with it?
Well, it's... not very good. Pretty much everything about it is mediocre aside from the aesthetics.

It's playable, but only in the sense that it works and there's a game there I guess.
 
Oh please guys! Who do you want to fool? Are you telling me that you don't play skyrim, batman, deus ex etc because they are multi or that they don't count on a console lineup?

Ds, 3ds and wii simply can't afford ps360 multi and ports, the only games that can run on them are games made for them, it's not exactly a thing to be proud of, but nintendo fans are masters of overturning things.

Obviously i'm not saying that that exclusives are not essential or that vita doesn't need more exclusives, i simply want you to see the things as they really are.
 
Well, it's... not very good. Pretty much everything about it is mediocre aside from the aesthetics.

It's playable, but only in the sense that it works and there's a game there I guess.

I thought I was one of the few to not like it when it first came out and everyone was going crazy on here about it. It looks great but goddamn flying around and stomping on enemies heads is just not fun. None of it was fun to me. Couldn't bring myself to play it much. Wish I didn't buy it.
 
We're at the point where when people mention Nintendo games, they probably mean 2d platformers + sports games + Zelda.

So I think you guys are free to recommend games such as Fire Emblem: Awakening, Kid Icarus Uprising, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Pushmo/Crashmo, Mario & Luigi or even Art Academy.

Some of the games I've listed are easily recognized as Nintendo games, others not so much but they all share the fact that they are vastly different from what most people consider as Nintendo or Mario games now.

Another recommendation of mine would be Crimson Shroud. The Matsunoto eshop game. I just picked it up and I'm having a great time with it and it feels to me like a really great mix between good tabletop rpgs and good adventure gamebooks. I'm fan of both and I really loved this particular game. People could be bothered by the combat pace that is a bit slow and the fact that there's quite a bit of reading you will have to do (writing is top notch) but these things are actually positives in my mind.

As far as third parties go, I haven't picked up much from them yet but the console is gearing up to be a SMT machine. There's also Bravely Default, Etrian Odyssey, Professor Layton games... and there's much more but this is quickly turning into just a list of games I want to pick up in the future so I'll just stop here.

Also, Pokémon.
 
Oh please guys! Who do you want to fool? Are you telling me that you don't play skyrim, batman, deus ex etc because they are multi or that they don't count on a console lineup?

Ds, 3ds and wii simply can't afford ps360 multi and ports, the only games that can run on them are games made for them, it's not exactly a thing to be proud of, but nintendo fans are masters of overturning things.

Obviously i'm not saying that that exclusives are not essential or that vita doesn't need more exclusives, i simply want you to see the things as they really are.

Seriously the day Vita gets a proper port of Skyrim is the day I'll dust it off and consider buying a game outside of PS+. I buy handhelds for their exclusives. I'm not saying that portability doesn't have its own benefits but that's the main reason. That's why I personally stress exclusives. Ports are just the sauce not the steak.
 
Best system of 2013 for sure. And it has a very very good library so you can find dozens of games you may like (even if you're not into Nintendo games... which is sad because they are simply making some of the best games you'll ever see).

GO BUY ONE ! >_<
 
One of the best gaming investments I've made in the past few months.

Tales of the Abyss
Kid Icarus
Monster Hunter <- My current addiction
Professor Layton
Pushmo
Fire Emblem

Are all games I could easily recommend. I haven't even gotten to the Nintendo mainstays like Mario Kart or 3D land.

In fact, I enjoyed the 3DS so much that my 8 year old and fiance both have one. It is basically taking up all my gaming time and I have a 360, PC, (sold my PS3) and a Wii. Until GTA V, it's basically my 'main' gaming console.
 
I bought an XL with Mario Kart 7 on a whim a few weeks ago. I now have Super Mario 3D, Fire Emblem, Luigis Mansion, Zelda OoT and Kid Icarus 3D Classic. I have Donkey Kong Country pre ordered and my will buy list includes Pokemon, Starfox, and KI: Uprising.

To me it seems OP hasn't really given Nintendo games much of a chance (played some at a friends house, etc.). I think he should embrace Nintendo and enjoy some excellent games on an excellent system.

Do it.
 
To everyone,

Please never listen to this person.
From the position of somebody who's never played GR (but has played and liked a few games universally shunned) I strongly suspect you're getting yourself into an argument of tastes. Some people like some games, others don't - c'est la vie.
 
To everyone,

Please never listen to this person.

I kind of agree with him. PS Vita is a good system but there is not that many good games on it and Gravity Rush is good but far from being as good as it seemed when PS Vita launched. PS+ is the compromise I found to keep the system even if I don't play it more often. One of the only game I really enjoyed on PS Vita was LBP, Sound Shapes is good but it's not a system seller and another good games like Rayman can be played on PS3 or on other systems (even if not exactly the same version all the time).

Vita's problem is the same as the Wii U one : not enough very good exclusive games.

So whoever buys a PS Vita is betting on the upcoming games to be good (like I did for Wii U) but it's not something I'll push people to do (except if you have plenty of money and then just buy everything :D )
 
What? NO. The best games on 3ds are not ports. The best games on vita are, with few exceptions, ports. Make of that what you will.

To clarify the notable exceptions that come to my mind:
Uncharted
Gravity Rush
Wipeout (ps3 version included free if you own it, but separate)
Lumines ES
Soul Sacrifice
Motorstorm RC
LBP Vita
Unit 13
[+Tearaway and Killzone]
Then you have games that are either just as good or more suited to the Vita for most people these days:
PSASBR
Super Monkey Ball/Touch My Katamari [not ports anyway]
Guacamelee
Jet Set Radio
Rayman Origins
Basically all indies are more suited to a handheld, specifically vita
Super Stardust HD
Pinball games etc
Sound Shapes
Dragon's Crown on the way
Then you have console games that are only available portably (or the best version is) on the vita - if you care even a little about having a more conveniently accessible version than mostly just even better graphics:
Sonic Racing Transformed - great on vita
NFS:MW - only open world racer on any handheld, good game made by criterion
Fifa and a bunch of other sports games like everybody's golf, tennis and mlb
Oddworld Stranger's Wrath
NGS+/2
Shinobido 2
All the fighters basically
Urban Trial Freestyle
ED2017 Portable
Sly Cooper 4 and those various announced trilogy collections.
Not to mention Sony's N64, the PS1, has its library mostly available online on the Vita's store, as are the PSP games.

If you want typical Japanese games, get a 3DS for the moment. Vita only really has Persona 4, Disgaea 3, VLR and like Muramusa on the way so far. Otherwise, I'm not convinced 3DS appeals very well to many people in my agegroup (18-34 that I hear mentioned).
I know people have different tastes and strong preferences for franchises on Nintendo and the 3DS came out earlier and so some people already own a dedicated handheld, which is even more unnecessary these days. But generally speaking, 3DS has no games*. Mario Land and for me, march of the minis. Maybe Kid Icarus and crushmo if the artstyle changed so much.

Also to not get DKCR because it's not 60fps is a little crazy, especially if it's locked at 30. Unless - you really don't care about having the game available on a handheld, which I might buy if we're talking about Starcraft II, but otherwise no, not really in this age of convenience. And that you would get it if it were 60 suggests you are at least somewhat interested in a portable version. If you can play intense action games quite comfortably at 30fps, DKCR shouldn't be too bad.
Cost/rebuying and the game being old and possibly overplayed are factors but for others I don't see why it wouldn't be any less awesome to have. You buy what you enjoy, not what you think others find appealing or impressive. Maybe I should say you don't avoid buying a game because someone else doesn't find it impressive.

I think this is partly to do with many of you 3DS gamers getting so many retail carts that you basically treat the handheld like a home console, wanting it all boxed nice and together, partly locking you down to the room your collection is in (especially if you are lazy). I can't blame you with Nintendo's digital policy and I'm guessing 3DS carts still include nice booklets. But having the games digitally on the Vita is like having an iphone full of iOS games, except much better (and somewhat more expensive..). It's all there on the system so you can be even more lazy and instantly satisfied - arguably ideal for a handheld gaming device and leads to much more freedom and opportunities to game.

Eventually you'll get a nice retail collection on the Vita too even if you tried to do digital mostly, but due to costs (+cravings for day1 etc) and expensive, finite digital space, you'll end up having to. Meaning you might have to carry some around with you in some sort of case or bag, maybe even another memory card, which isn't the end of the world but still inconvenient. But it's much less necessary with the Vita.

Everything is relative here. Some people don't care about having variety and are happy playing 1 game at a time. Others are still in love with their home entertainment systems and can't imagine finding enjoyment or preferring to play on a handheld, no matter how nice it is. Maybe they have ultimate access to their home systems, have lots of patience, have the energy for the immersion and being locked in or (think they) don't care about not having those. Others try and convince themselves or even others as well, perhaps due to cost.
But not everyone does, and we ought to accept that there will be a decent amount of people who will find a game that is usually only on home consoles but is now available to play entirely in your hands, pretty cool, just in principle.
People make the assumption that because it hasn't taken off, no one wants to do that. It's like thinking the gamepad is a failure already. It's not. Okay they won't be likely to have dominating appeal even down the line, due to some other major influences, but everything else is pretty unknown, as are decent range estimates for us, these companies know the industry better than most of us. ...and back to the point, saying, as people even here seem to like doing with impunity, that the vita has no games is pure troll.

*Saying (for a significant portion of the agegroup mentioned earlier) 3DS only has Mario [3d land - appealing, nsmb - heard good things but zzz, mk] and JRPGs is semi-troll.

List me with notable other titles please? NA/EU only. I know of:

Resident Evil - circle pad issue
Kid Icarus - frame rate woes
Zelda, Starfox - 64
[Then there is AC, Pokemon, Prof Layton, LM2 and I guess fire emblem] - waifu or snorefest

DKCR - oiw
Zelda - oiw
Yoshi - oiw
smash - oiw
Everything else is on Vita and better afaik. Crush 3D is probably better on 3DS than PSP.
Seems pretty clear both handhelds have their own appeal but also their disadvantages atm, even if 3DS is ahead in what is expected from it.

I'm saying, people expecting others to accept when they say Vita has no games, but not when people say the same of the 3DS is narrow minded or super rabid, especially with (what I assume is) a slightly older age-group in this board and current general trends.
 
From the position of somebody who's never played GR (but has played and liked a few games universally shunned) I strongly suspect you're getting yourself into an argument of tastes. Some people like some games, others don't - c'est la vie.

I know, I was just being facetious. It IS true that I've rarely seen somebody with opinions as terrible as steeloDMZ, though.

Chû Totoro;56979528 said:
I kind of agree with him. PS Vita is a good system but there is not that many good games on it and Gravity Rush is good but far from being as good as it seemed when PS Vita launched. PS+ is the compromise I found to keep the system even if I don't play it more often. One of the only game I really enjoyed on PS Vita was LBP, Sound Shapes is good but it's not a system seller and another good games like Rayman can be played on PS3 or on other systems (even if not exactly the same version all the time).

Vita's problem is the same as the Wii U one : not enough very good exclusive games.

So whoever buys a PS Vita is betting on the upcoming games to be good (like I did for Wii U) but it's not something I'll push people to do (except if you have plenty of money and then just buy everything :D )

There aren't enough games that sell highly, but there are more than enough good games IMO. Of course, that's subjective, but you seem to be saying it more like it's fact. Also, you mention that the only game you enjoyed was LBP. Then you say that Sound Shapes is good but not a system seller. Does a game have to be a system seller to be enjoyable to you? Same with Rayman. it's on another system, but does that hinder your enjoyment of it?
 
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To clarify the notable exceptions that come to my mind:
bla bla bla

Sorry but your exceptions are not good examples.
I've played all these :
Uncharted
Gravity Rush
Wipeout
Lumines ES
Motorstorm RC
LBP Vita
Killzone

Guacamelee
Jet Set Radio
Rayman Origins
Super Stardust HD
Sound Shapes
and just the bolded one may qualify for system seller quality games (if you have a PS3). If you don't have a PS3 I agree that your list is more valid.

And your
games that are only available (or the best version is) on the vita
are a joke. You can't buy a system for these...

I have both. Please tell me which games to buy on PS Vita for the next 6 months? I'll tell you my list on the 3DS.

Both systems are good but really 3DS is superior (like I said if you're not allergic to Nintendo and if your favorite franchises are not Sony's but if you ask then you may not be in these two categories OP).

Try the 3 best PS Vita games, try the 3 best 3DS games (in the 3 genres you like the most) and make your decision.


Edit :

I know, I was just being facetious. It IS true that I've rarely seen somebody with opinions as terrible as steeloDMZ, though.



There aren't enough games that sell highly, but there are more than enough good games IMO. Of course, that's subjective, but you seem to be saying it more like it's fact. Also, you mention that the only game you enjoyed was LBP. Then you say that Sound Shapes is good but not a system seller. Does a game have to be a system seller to be enjoyable to you? Same with Rayman. it's on another system, but does that hinder your enjoyment of it?

Of course not .There are so many games I enjoy and I don't care if people / gaming sites like it and if it sells millions. But what I try to say is regarding the OP I think that we shouldn't only take into account the games we like but the games the majority likes and the games which can make people buy the 3DS or PS Vita (so the system seller games). Doesn't the OP try to find the games that will sell the system for him?

If you take into account the games you like or good (not controversial) games then you'll have dozens on each system and I'm not sure it'll help to decide which is the best.

I personally can buy a system for one game (already released or not) so it's really not my problem here. But listing the best 3DS games vs the best PS Vita ones I think the choice is quite simple (really I'm not trying to troll or saying PS Vita has no games... it just has not enough very good games).
 
To clarify the notable exceptions that come to my mind:

Uncharted
Gravity Rush
Wipeout (ps3 version included free if you own it, but separate)
Lumines ES
Soul Sacrifice
Motorstorm RC
LBP Vita
Unit 13
[+Tearaway and Killzone]

Then you have games that are either just as good or more suited to the Vita for most people these days:
PSASBR
Super Monkey Ball/Touch My Katamari [not ports anyway]
Guacamelee
Jet Set Radio
Rayman Origins
Basically all indies are more suited to a handheld given how they compare to other games on the platforms
Super Stardust HD
Pinball games etc
Sound Shapes
Dragon's Crown on the way

Then you have console games that are only available (or the best version is) on the vita - if you care about having a more conveniently accessible version than mostly just even better graphics:

Sonic Racing Transformed - great on vita
NFS:MW - only open world racer on any handheld, good game made by criterion
Fifa and a bunch of other sports games like everybody's golf, tennis and mlb
Oddworld Stranger's Wrath
NGS+
All the fighters basically
Urban Trial Freestyle
ED2017 Portable
Sly Cooper 4 and those various announced trilogy collections.

Not to mention Sony's N64, the PS1, has its library mostly available online, as does the PSP.

If you want typical Japanese games, get a 3DS for the moment. Vita only really has Persona 4, Disgaea 3, VLR and like Muramusa on the way so far. Otherwise, I'm not convinced 3DS appeals very well to many people in my agegroup (18-34 that I hear mentioned).
I know people have different tastes and strong preferences for franchises on Nintendo and the 3DS came out earlier and so some people already own a dedicated handheld, which is even more unnecessary these days. But generally speaking, 3DS has no games*. Mario Land and for me, march of the minis. Maybe Kid Icarus and crushmo if the artstyle changed so much.

Also to not get DKCR because it's not 60fps is crazy, especially if it's locked at 30. Unless - you really don't care about having the game available on a handheld, which I might buy if we're talking about Starcraft II, but otherwise no, not really in this age.
Cost and the game being old and possibly overplayed are factors but for others I don't see why it wouldn't be any less awesome to have. You buy what you enjoy, not what you think others find appealing or impressive.

I think this is partly to do with many of you 3DS gamers getting so many retail carts that you basically treat the handheld like a home console, wanting it all boxed nice and together, partly locking you down to the room your collection is in (especially if you are lazy). I can't blame you with Nintendo's digital policy and I'm guessing 3DS carts still include nice booklets. But having the games digitally on the Vita is like having an iphone full of iOS games, except much better (and somewhat more expensive..). It's all there on the system so you can be even more lazy and instantly satisfied - arguably ideal for a handheld gaming device.

Eventually you'll get a nice retail collection on the Vita too even if you tried to do digital mostly, but due to costs (+cravings for day1 etc) and expensive, finite digital space, you'll end up having to. Meaning you might have to carry some around with you in some sort of case or bag, maybe even another memory card, which isn't the end of the world but still inconvenient. But it's much less necessary with the Vita.

Everything is relative here. Some people don't care about having variety and are happy playing 1 game at a time. Others are still in love with their home entertainment systems and can't imagine finding enjoyment or preferring to play on a handheld, no matter how nice it is. Maybe they have ultimate access to their home systems, have lots of patience, have the energy for the immersion and being locked in or don't care about not having those.
But not everyone does, and we ought to accept that there will be a decent amount of people who will find a game that is usually only on home consoles but is now available to play entirely in your hands, pretty cool.
People make the assumption that because it hasn't taken off, no one wants to do that. It's like thinking the gamepad is a failure already. It's not. Okay they won't be likely to have dominating appeal even down the line, due to some other major influences, but everything else is pretty unknown, as are the brackets, these companies know the industry better than most of us. ...and back to the point, saying vita has no games is pure troll.

*Saying (for a significant portion of the agegroup mentioned earlier) 3DS only has Mario [3d land - appealing, nsmb - heard good things but zzz, mk] and JRPGs is semi-troll.

List me with notable other titles please? NA/EU only. I know of:

Resident Evil - circle pad issue
Kid Icarus - frame rate woes
Zelda, Starfox - 64

[then there is AC, Pokemon, Prof Layton and I guess fire emblem] - waifu or snorefest

DKCR - on its way
Zelda - oiw
Yoshi - oiw

Everything else is on Vita and better afaik. Crush 3D is probably better on 3DS than PSP.
Seems pretty clear both handhelds have their own appeal but also their disadvantages atm, even if 3DS is ahead in what is expected from it.

I'm saying, people expecting others to accept when they say Vita has no games, but not when people say the same of the 3DS is narrow minded or super rabid, especially with (what I assume is) a slightly older age-group in this board and current general trends.

See people, this is how you make a stealth fanboy post!! Word it nicely :P

BTW, the things you say about the 3DS don't really apply. But I understand it's your opinion.

Edit: Also, funny how a lot of posts don't even focus on what the OP likes. On 3DS so far, games that have your genres covered are probably MK7 (if you like this sort of racing), SM3DL (which is an amazing game), Kid Icarus, KH3D (depends on how you follow the series i guess), Shinobi. There's a good variety of good content available digitally too.

Then again, if you don't like "Nintendo games", some of those don't really apply.
 
Chû Totoro;56981026 said:
Sorry but your exceptions are not good examples.
I've played all these :

and just the bolded one may qualify for system seller quality games (if you have a PS3). If you don't have a PS3 I agree that your list is more valid.

And your are a joke. You can't buy a system for these...

I have both. Please tell me which games to buy on PS Vita for the next 6 months? I'll tell you my list on the 3DS.

Both systems are good but really 3DS is superior (like I said if you're not allergic to Nintendo and if your favorite franchises are not Sony's but if you ask then you may not be in these two categories OP).

Try the 3 best PS Vita games, try the 3 best 3DS games (in the 3 genres you like the most) and make your decision.

Wait why do you keep saying system sellers? Who said anything about system sellers?
 
Some people want you to think is the reason to purchase a Vita.

I think is a tech demo with absolutely laughable gameplay, weak game mechanics, bad missions, little content and godawful story.

Weren't you one of the people evangelising about Kid Icarus 3D?
 
Some people have broader gaming interests than Mario and teenagers on a mission.

This and the 'waifu' comment are kinda funny considering it isn't unreasonable to see the Vita's future as primarily an otaku focused system basically made up of visual novels and dungeon-crawlers featuring your favourite waifus.
 
OoT is one of the best games ever made, so that's not surprising. However, remove it and you still have a library absolutely filled with GOTY contenders that are not on any other platforms. You can't really say the same for the Vita, as much as I would like to play Gravity Rush.

I'm sorry, but it seems you are confusing the 3DS with the Vita. Besides, Nintendo is not releasing these GOTY contenders in the West. I know one GOTY contender, and it's called MEDAROTS 7 for 3DS. But Natsume instead wants to force more animal husbandry and rune mining down our throats.

Please visit the Natsume facebook page and ask for Medarots 7.
-Fire Emblem (I wouldn't exactly call it JRPG myself)

Yes, God forbid that you would be caught dead playing a jRPG, because you know of the stigma associated to playing such games.
Fire Emblem is THE GAME to beat on 3DS, and yes, it's a jRPG, not battleship.
 
Wait why do you keep saying system sellers? Who said anything about system sellers?

Please read my post -_-

I'm using this term because "good" games may not be sufficient to make the OP make his decision. If he only wanted good games then he'd buy both :p

Wanting the best for the value of the system makes me focus on the best games on each systems. You know the ones people call system sellers because these games are so good they can sell systems on their own :O

But ok if that bothers you just put "very good game" instead. But once again what are the very good games on PS Vita? We may have 5. On 3DS we could find 10.

Edit : OP just do this and make your choice. I'm out. I'm going to play Guacamelee and Luigi's Mansion 2 :p
Try the 3 best PS Vita games, try the 3 best 3DS games (in the 3 genres you like the most) and make your decision.
 
By trying to weaken somebody's argument by claiming that he had x opinion about an unrelated game, that is how.

Not my intention at all.

I just find it interesting that someone can slam one game for such a list of reasons while speaking so highly of another to which all the same criticisms apply.
 
^ Gravity Rush is about moving through the world by changing gravity, it's understandable some people will have more difficulty with it than others, it's not the sort of game that everyone can pick up and play. I'm a big fan of Mirrors Edge and fast, different gameplay so it was sort of unbelievably great that they put those mechanics in GR. Combat took more practice than I was comfortable learning but I appreciate the depth in the game. My main complaint is the story continues in a sequel really, leaving a lot left unanswered from what I've been hearing, - I'm taking my time with it..big time.

I don't have anything against JRPGs, I don't really see a stigma there, maybe it's stronger than I realise but I would only fault the insane patience requirements, lack of dexterity and precision challenges and very little pew pew pew action unless it's in a cutscene. Also light vs dark stories and general teen nonsense don't help retain interest in the story, which tends to be half the focus of the game. If you love the battles and the tactics, congrats, you got lots of games to play that give you great value generally.

---Sorry Chû Totoro - missed your post but it's rubbish anyway :P I agree, LBP Vita is the only one that I'd say is extremely high quality in every aspect and deserves handheld GOTY etc. But I wouldn't even call it a system seller if Uncharted and to a slightly lesser extent wipeout, don't count. Don't forget PSP's main game was ridge racer then wipeout - for some people waiting on that GT promise :P Pulse, also, brought more fans to the series or back to it. Some only like the 60fps on the home console version but a considerable amount were waiting on the next gen wipeout handheld, and it really delivered (minus racebox and getting shut down lol). As VanWinkle says, system sellers are pretty subjective since marketing, price and availability/ownership of consoles in the demographic all have impacts on sales. Plus with taste and gametype differences, you can't really compare quality so vaguely like Wii Sports vs Mad World just based on how well they sell the system, let alone their own sales. Why that, specifically, matters shouldn't be the most important thing anyway.

This and the 'waifu' comment are kinda funny considering it isn't unreasonable to see the Vita's future as primarily an otaku focused system basically made up of visual novels and dungeon-crawlers featuring your favourite waifus.

Haha true, well I was actually referring to Persona 4 too (not that it's waifu, read original quote everyone else), haven't quite been drawn into it like a lot of others who point out it's the only game they want on the system.

And I can see that happening in Japan but world-wide is more important to me. I know that's not the case for everyone though.
 
Steelo and myself disagree on many things, but he's 100% right about Gravity Rush. The game is boring and has bad controls. If it was on any other platform it wouldn't have many fans.

Eh I think if it was a Nintendo exclusive we'd hear a much different tone from some people (not from you necessarily, but some others). That's just the way exclusives tend to go.

Chû Totoro;56981026 said:
Of course not .There are so many games I enjoy and I don't care if people / gaming sites like it and if it sells millions. But what I try to say is regarding the OP I think that we shouldn't only take into account the games we like but the games the majority likes and the games which can make people buy the 3DS or PS Vita (so the system seller games). Doesn't the OP try to find the games that will sell the system for him?

If you take into account the games you like or good (not controversial) games then you'll have dozens on each system and I'm not sure it'll help to decide which is the best.

I personally can buy a system for one game (already released or not) so it's really not my problem here. But listing the best 3DS games vs the best PS Vita ones I think the choice is quite simple (really I'm not trying to troll or saying PS Vita has no games... it just has not enough very good games).

Well, first, what I quoted and what conversation was going on at that time had nothing to do with the 3DS but (somehow) good games on Vita. So your system seller argument didn't have anything to do with what we were talking about, hence my confusion. Anyway, system sellers are games that a person wants to buy a system for, just so they can play that game. That's totally subjective. What I may buy a system for is totally different than what you may buy a system for. In regards to "listing the best 3DS games vs the best Vita games, the choice is simple," that is wrong. I bought both systems, but have about 10 times more Vita games. For me, it's better. Of course, I'm not going to tell somebody that Vita is better like it's fact, like many 3DS fans do with that system.

Now the one thing I will definitely agree with you on is trying games from both systems and then deciding. Of course, that's not advice for the OP whatsoever, who already has the Vita and is wondering if he should get a 3DS.
 
Eh I think if it was a Nintendo exclusive we'd hear a much different tone from some people (not from you necessarily, but some others). That's just the way exclusives tend to go.

Oh, c'mmmmmon. No. Gravity Rush is admittedly one of the most ambitious games I have ever played. Gorgeous looking and don't even get me started on the score. But, that story and gameplay? All sorts of mediocre.
 
Oh, c'mmmmmon. No. Gravity Rush is admittedly one of the most ambitious games I have ever played. Gorgeous looking and don't even get me started on the score. But, that story and gameplay? All sorts of mediocre.

Oh I have no doubt. But at the same time, there are Nintendo games that I think Sony or Microsoft fans wouldn't hate on nearly as much if they were on their platforms, too. That's just the way it is. But yes, I think many Nintendo fans would LOVE Gravity Rush if it was, say, a 3DS exclusive.
 
Weren't you one of the people evangelising about Kid Icarus 3D?

Yup. I actually call Kid Icarus the second GOAT handheld game.

What does that have to do with GR anyway, lol?

Not my intention at all.

I just find it interesting that someone can slam one game for such a list of reasons while speaking so highly of another to which all the same criticisms apply.

Absolute horse shit. Kid Icarus doesn't suffer from awful mechanics, or terrible uninspired gameplay like GR.
 
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