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Should I quit PC gaming?
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ToxicAdam said:
Learn some reading comprehension yourself.
One person says buy an HDTV if you buy a next gen console.
Reponse:That's too expensive.
First person says don't be dense. It's a one-time purchases that serves multiple purposes as it also most likely will replace your regular TV. In otherwords it doesn't cost $1500 and it's at the minimum a combo that will last 5 years guaranteed and play every game in that time span.
Response: Computers serve multiple purposes too.
Neat. Nobody said they didn't. We all use computers. It's a given. Which person has said computers don't have many great uses? How is this factoid relevant to someone upgrading their computer on a continual basis to play games.
gigamex said:
Conversely, who is saying that HDTV's don't serve other functions? The comment was that it was an EXPENSE. The same way some people have derided PC's for thier EXPENSE in this very thread.
You can accept that right? Upgrading your PC will cost 500-1000 dollars (depending on a MOBO). Buying an X360 with HDTV could cost three times that amount. Gaming costs money .... trying to pick one over the other just due to money concerns is rather simplistic.
ToxicAdam said:
Of course it's an expense and that expense is not $1500 if you don't want it to be. I have a combo HDTV/Monitor and a 360 and combined they didn't cost me $1500. If you want you don't even have to get an HDTV and you save money right there and you are still set for the next 5 years like I said. You will be able to play every game for those next 5 years without ever buying an additional piece of equipment.
That is not the case with a computer if you are playing top of the line games on the PC or want to continue playing top of the line games on the PC as they are released over that time period.
You have every right to play PC games and not touch a console. That's your business. But one shouldn't make false arguments to make the point which is my point.
Teknopathetic
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"That is not the case with a computer if you are playing top of the line games on the PC or want to continue playing top of the line games on the PC as they are released over that time period."
Over the past 4 years I've not spent more than 1500 bucks combined upgrading *several* times over that period and I haven't had a problem running games well yet. It's pure ignorance to think you need 500$ video cards to run the latest games well. False arguments, indeed.
Over the past 4 years I've not spent more than 1500 bucks combined upgrading *several* times over that period and I haven't had a problem running games well yet. It's pure ignorance to think you need 500$ video cards to run the latest games well. False arguments, indeed.
gigamex said:
5 years is a pretty long time. But look at it this way, if you went this long without a new pc, you can go another 1 or 2. By that time you can build a sick pc for cheap, and go back and play awesome games like fear, whatever else you missed, etc. and they will still look and play great.
look at far cry and half life 2 as an example. came out in 04, if you play them this year in like november for the first time if you just got a new pc, they will still be 2 of the most impressive games you can play, 2 years down the road.
Lukkas said:
Yeah, my point isn't too beat up on PC gaming. Nobody who's a gamer at their core really does that. I have issues with the PC market selection of games but I also have issues increasingly with the console selection of titles which without Japan is pretty much in the same shape as the PC market. My whole point to coincide with the point of the original poster is that I stopped the arms war upgrade esclalation and instead focused on a different segment of the PC market that ended up saving me money in the long-run. I don't really miss playing the wizz-bang hot shit PC graphic title of the month because ultimately the graphics aren't really the point anyway. Of course that's not to say there is anything per se wrong with buying the latest and greatest if someone has a good supply of disposable cash they don't mind burning on it.
only quit if you want to, don't let a bunch of people on the net decide for you
but I'm pretty sure that I'll probably never play my PC games again if I get a nice HDTV to go w/ teh 360... my only reason for sticking with the PC is for counter-strike: source and all of the HL2 shit, can't get enough of that valve stuff
but I'm pretty sure that I'll probably never play my PC games again if I get a nice HDTV to go w/ teh 360... my only reason for sticking with the PC is for counter-strike: source and all of the HL2 shit, can't get enough of that valve stuff
Lukkas said:
PS2:
Final Fantasy XI
Dragon Quest VIII
Summoner
Quake 3
Nobunaga's Ambition (well, sim is really vague, but I think that was the type you were driving at...)
Kessen
several dozen Japanese-only adventure games; IIRC, Syberia also got a port, if we want to keep this to English-only.
Gran Turismo 4
Ace Combat 5
Madden
Klonoa 2
This could easily be done for all but MMORPG and possibly RTS on the SNES, too.
DonasaurusRex
Online Ho Champ
..you dont necessarily have to have a state of the art uber expensive machine to play most PC games. I know you have to have a nice machine to run most games with FULL settings but god damn alot of those settings are pure insanity. I mean really who needs 8x AF and 16 AA in all their games at 1600x1200? What console can even match that sort of image quality..none thats right. Most games require waaaay too much video memory to run a game at those settings and get 60fps, alot may get 30 ...on avg not constant. Now at 1024x768 with SANE effects settings a user could get quite alot out of their vid card for some time.
Bottom line is this for good pc gaming you just gotta spend all you can afford on a good platform aka motherboard. Make sure you have a motherboard that will allow for future upgrades to video, cpu, memory most MB's these days integrate all other features.
Second you do not need the latest and greatest cpu, this has been apparent for a very long time now, no need to waste top dollar on the fastest thing available when its just the highest clocked version of a chip family. Why get the most expensive chip when you can have the most expensive socket that will allow for upgrades that give you the most for your money.
I know you can get high up in the price range if you go balls out, but what pc enthusiast does that? The name of the game is price/performance. You gotta pick and choose what you will spend the big bucks on then squeeze your performance per dollar for the rest of your parts. Thats actually a really big part of being a pc enthusiast look at all the overclocking sites there are on the net, everything from cpu's to ram, to vidcards have overclocking guides because everyone knows even the most expensive part in a product line is essentially the same as the lower priced variants.
I can understand if you gotta run everything at MAX settings but you also have to understand that , those optional settings might as well be there exclusively for stress testing because the only thing running games today with that many effects on is a dual gfx card workstation. Its just an option.
Bottom line is this for good pc gaming you just gotta spend all you can afford on a good platform aka motherboard. Make sure you have a motherboard that will allow for future upgrades to video, cpu, memory most MB's these days integrate all other features.
Second you do not need the latest and greatest cpu, this has been apparent for a very long time now, no need to waste top dollar on the fastest thing available when its just the highest clocked version of a chip family. Why get the most expensive chip when you can have the most expensive socket that will allow for upgrades that give you the most for your money.
I know you can get high up in the price range if you go balls out, but what pc enthusiast does that? The name of the game is price/performance. You gotta pick and choose what you will spend the big bucks on then squeeze your performance per dollar for the rest of your parts. Thats actually a really big part of being a pc enthusiast look at all the overclocking sites there are on the net, everything from cpu's to ram, to vidcards have overclocking guides because everyone knows even the most expensive part in a product line is essentially the same as the lower priced variants.
I can understand if you gotta run everything at MAX settings but you also have to understand that , those optional settings might as well be there exclusively for stress testing because the only thing running games today with that many effects on is a dual gfx card workstation. Its just an option.
Wafflecopter
Banned
Fuck no. PC gaming> life.
This is one thing I'm not sure too many realize.
If you're aiming to play a game as a developer intended, and you're bitching about only getting to do that on the nicest of nice machine... Yes, the game developed is generally intended to have max texture detail on. Geometrical detail, too. But plenty of games have absurdly demanding options that are pretty much in there only for machines down the line. I highly, highly doubt that anybody plays Trackmania Sunrise at 1080p with lighting set to "complex", shadows turned on for everything, full dynamic colors, full motion blur, maxed AA, and maxed AF all at once.
The whole beef I have with "PC games are dying" or "PC gaming is worthless" or whathaveyou is that it's the only reasonable open platform out there, and that will never change. Nothing is as open to independant developers, nothing is as open to the end user. For those reasons alone, there's always bound to be something or something on the horizon. Since every member of GAF clearly has a computer, and since I'm guessing most of these computers run Windows XP, these machines can run a gigantic amount of good games from a huge variety of genres.
If you want something technically amazing for cheap, and you already own an HDTV or don't mind playing in low resolutions, then yeah, the next-gen consoles are what you should be looking into. I can definitely see most recent or upcoming big PC releases seeming stagnant, but that's no reason to avoid all the platform has to offer. Especially the backlog.
Borys said:Yeah, go ahead.
From the list you posted you seem like a RPG kind of guy.
The golden times of PC RPGS are over. You'll find all your favourite future PC RPG titles (Oblivion, Fallout 3, Bioshock etc.) on the 360. Dumbed down, yes, but way, way, way cheaper ($299 and you're set till 2010! No need to upgrade a single component. Bargain of the century!).
Ultima is dead, Baldur's Gate turned into mindless console crap (Dark Alliance)...
*sigh*
Those times will never come back:
colour me suprised. a sensible, non biased post regarding PC gaming, from borys. you made my day.
Red Blaster
Member
PC Gaming is just the same three genres done over and over again.
Wafflecopter
Banned
You trolls are the same.Somethingblah Cock said:
Willie Dynamite
Member
Have been a PC gamer all my life. Now I have a job so I don't have time to be concerned with upgrades, drivers, compatibility, etc. I used to pirate games when I was a kid so a PC was great for that, but now I have money to buy all my games and no time to put up with downloading, cracks, etc.
I play strategy games and WoW on my Powerbook now. I will get Civ 4 when it comes out for OS X.
Revolution will probably become my default platform for FPS games.
With Xbox Live Arcade even the indie scene might break into consoles (to some degree). That will probably be the last PC unique selling point to go away.
I play strategy games and WoW on my Powerbook now. I will get Civ 4 when it comes out for OS X.
Revolution will probably become my default platform for FPS games.
With Xbox Live Arcade even the indie scene might break into consoles (to some degree). That will probably be the last PC unique selling point to go away.
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