John Kowalski
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Should I stop waiting for Mass Effect Trilogy Remastered?
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How many times does this crazy notion have to be squashed?
Trogdor1123
Member
aren't remasters easy money? Ea loves money, I don't get it
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yeah, they are currently in the 'reboot' business.
I would not be shocked if they dropped the '5' from the next Battlefield.
BossDarkseid
Member
Not really. Still requires time, work and investment. Maybe after Andromeda is out and there are more fans.
Yeah, they are currently in the 'reboot' business.
I would not be shocked if they dropped the '5' from the next Battlefield.
Yes, re-making games in an entirely new in-house engine. I hope you're not comparing that to a UE3 port of the ME Trilogy.
Less so when you're required to port a game using an engine none of your releases use anymore.
The Artisan
Member
actually, that's what remasters are for. this generation most of them have been released before the new generation installment.
None of them have been released using an engine the publisher has abandoned. The ME Trilogy will not see the light of day on PS4/XB1 unless it's in frostbite.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
My comment was more to the people saying, "they want new games and not wasted time on remasters", as well as EA's official reasoning where they just did not come out and say what you said, rather, the dodgy (disingenuous?), "we want to make new ideas, not old" in so many words.
My comment was more to the people saying, "they want new games and not wasted time on remasters", as well as EA's official reasoning where they just did not come out and say what you said, rather, the dodgy (disingenuous?), "we want to make new ideas, not old" in so many words.
Eh, even the reboot of Mirror's Edge is tackling the story from a new creative direction so I don't think that holds anyway.
Captain_Wreckus
Member
I gave up waiting for a remaster a long time ago and grabbed the 360 trilogy set for 20 or 30 bucks. Better chance for ME 2 & 3 to be BC than a remaster.
badcrumble
Member
It'll come out right after Bayonetta 2 gets ported to PC.
vakarian32
Member
Not officially supported but the controller mods available are pretty much perfect now, no need for xpadder. I've finished ME1 and halfway through ME2 now using my PS4 controller, playing at 4K/60fps on my TV is fantastic.
Here are the controller mods if anyone is interested:
ME1: http://me3explorer.freeforums.org/me1-controller-support-power-wheel-t2036.html
ME2: http://me3explorer.freeforums.org/me2-controller-support-power-wheel-t1703.html
ME3: http://me3explorer.freeforums.org/me3-controller-support-power-wheel-t1838.html
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Lol I see what your did there
The Artisan
Member
what does that have to do with anything? I was just saying how remasters are a way of reinvigorating an IP before a new installment is released, even if the name doesn't need that.
psychotron
Member
Would buy in a heartbeat. Loved them originally and a remastered collection would be a terrific value.
Pontiaction
Member
Awesome! I was looking for this, thank you. Recently picked up the trilogy on PC for $10 and am looking to mod them up before revisiting the series (I first played them all on the 360).
Anyone have a list of other recommended mods, especially texture mods?
The_Inquisitor
Member
Wow that texture mod is awful...
Angry Fork
Member
brianjones
Member
just played through the trilogy for the first time recently.. they're all pretty rough framerate wise with ME1 being the worst offender.. so many glitches they could fix and loading screens they could improve on too
my dream would be to update ME1 with ME2 gameplay and get rid of that horrible loot and inventory system
and also weave the DLC's into the story
my dream would be to update ME1 with ME2 gameplay and get rid of that horrible loot and inventory system
and also weave the DLC's into the story
vakarian32
Member
For ME1 you might want MEUITM, that's all I used myself. I didn't bother modding ME2 myself, there's a few texture replacements around but it's a bit more involved to get them working. Haven't got up to ME3 for mods yet, but from what I see there are quite a few on the Nexus site.
Exploratory
Banned
So we throwing down or we throwing down?
Triggerhappytel
Member
I'd think a remaster collection re-release with a playable demo for Andromeda bundled in would be a pretty good marketing strategy.
That's why specialised remaster studios like Bluepoint exist. It would take almost nothing away from Bioware's current projects to improve and update the games, and I'm sure they'd have no issues working with UE3.
Yeah, they are currently in the 'reboot' business.
I would not be shocked if they dropped the '5' from the next Battlefield.
Nah, not after the lukewarm reception to Hardline. They're going to want to re-affirm that this is a mainline instalment rather than a spin-off.
cleveridea
Member
Yeah I came here to post that PC edition with the controller mod is basically the remaster
ME2 and ME3 run decent on console but ME1 really is terrible engine wise on 360
Sword Of Doom
Member
I tried playing ME 1 with the controller mod and it doesn't seem to have aim assist so it was very difficult to aim at anything. Maybe I was doing it wrong
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
Remasters are mainly for new audiences, so there's no need for one here. Mass Effect was super popular & available on 4 platforms. Anyone who'd be interested in Andromeda has VERY likely played 1-3. Not true for Dishonored, Uncharted, TLOU, etc.
So like two years ago?
Andromeda hasn't had a blowout of information, but it has been officially announced. We've already had multiple official trailers for it. We know that it will be out by the end of March 2017.
Shit, it's been talked about officially at 2 E3 conferences at this point. This year will be the third.
The Artisan
Member
by 2014, ME trilogy sold 14 million copies and two years prior uncharted sold more than that.. uncharted was said to be remastered for newcomers to the series, so those people asking for a remaster of ME have merit in the same way.
Whiteblade999
Member
I wouldn't mind a game that aims to make the trilogy a giant seamless experience like Van Helsing did last year.
I will continue to ask for a remaster of the Mass Effect Trilogy.
We keep getting remasters of countless other games, but few of them are as deserving as Mass Effect was, and EA has not given a single, solitary good reason why they haven't done so.
They've said Bioware doesn't have the time to do it. Um, who says Bioware has to do it? Get a studio that specializes in remasters (like Bluepoint) to do it. You think Naughty Dog personally remastered Uncharted Collection?
They've said that remasters means you're out of ideas. Well, I guess Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Activision, Capcom, WB, 2K, and practically EVERY other company out there is out of ideas since they've all done remasters and remakes recently. Don't even get me started how faulty and stupid that logic is, as if a remaster is the death of creativity. Hell, I read one interview with Capcom where they stated that remastering Resident Evil Remake actually reminded them of what they used to do so well and had veered away from.
Beyond that, even if Mass Effect doesn't get remastered, we still NEVER got even a single release that bundled all the DLC in one affordable package. Forget the remaster argument; just re-releasing the series - as is - with all the premium DLC bundled in would be a wise, sensible, consumer-friendly thing to do. It boggles my mind that they didn't even do THAT and they have the gall to still charge nearly $100 extra bucks on top of the core games just to get the complete story. Even worse when so much of that content is borderline essential and mandatory for even comprehending and understanding the story of the trilogy.
And that doesn't factor in just how many players started on old consoles and would love to upgrade, largely because those console versions are PAINFULLY held back by their platform limitations. I replayed Mass Effect 1 only a few weeks ago and, good grief, it is one UGLY performance. Framerate drops constantly, often into the single digits. Non-stop screen tearing. Painfully long load times. The whole game feels like it's held together by tape and glue and could come apart at a moment's notice.
There are at least a dozen other, sensible, budget-friendly, money-making reasons why Mass Effect Trilogy doesn't just deserve a remaster but really needs one.
And EA is absolutely leaving money on the table on this one. I will GLADLY pay for a complete Trilogy release on modern hardware and I haven't heard a single good excuse for why it couldn't or shouldn't happen.
Let me give you my money, EA. You make it so damn hard for me to want to do this the other 99% of the time, but the one time I'd do so with a stupid smile on my face you have "no interest".
Mass Effect Trilogy on modern platforms absolutely is something I fully, completely endorse and will never stop requesting, no matter how much time passes.
We keep getting remasters of countless other games, but few of them are as deserving as Mass Effect was, and EA has not given a single, solitary good reason why they haven't done so.
They've said Bioware doesn't have the time to do it. Um, who says Bioware has to do it? Get a studio that specializes in remasters (like Bluepoint) to do it. You think Naughty Dog personally remastered Uncharted Collection?
They've said that remasters means you're out of ideas. Well, I guess Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Activision, Capcom, WB, 2K, and practically EVERY other company out there is out of ideas since they've all done remasters and remakes recently. Don't even get me started how faulty and stupid that logic is, as if a remaster is the death of creativity. Hell, I read one interview with Capcom where they stated that remastering Resident Evil Remake actually reminded them of what they used to do so well and had veered away from.
Beyond that, even if Mass Effect doesn't get remastered, we still NEVER got even a single release that bundled all the DLC in one affordable package. Forget the remaster argument; just re-releasing the series - as is - with all the premium DLC bundled in would be a wise, sensible, consumer-friendly thing to do. It boggles my mind that they didn't even do THAT and they have the gall to still charge nearly $100 extra bucks on top of the core games just to get the complete story. Even worse when so much of that content is borderline essential and mandatory for even comprehending and understanding the story of the trilogy.
And that doesn't factor in just how many players started on old consoles and would love to upgrade, largely because those console versions are PAINFULLY held back by their platform limitations. I replayed Mass Effect 1 only a few weeks ago and, good grief, it is one UGLY performance. Framerate drops constantly, often into the single digits. Non-stop screen tearing. Painfully long load times. The whole game feels like it's held together by tape and glue and could come apart at a moment's notice.
There are at least a dozen other, sensible, budget-friendly, money-making reasons why Mass Effect Trilogy doesn't just deserve a remaster but really needs one.
And EA is absolutely leaving money on the table on this one. I will GLADLY pay for a complete Trilogy release on modern hardware and I haven't heard a single good excuse for why it couldn't or shouldn't happen.
Let me give you my money, EA. You make it so damn hard for me to want to do this the other 99% of the time, but the one time I'd do so with a stupid smile on my face you have "no interest".
Mass Effect Trilogy on modern platforms absolutely is something I fully, completely endorse and will never stop requesting, no matter how much time passes.
Blue Ninja
Member
It's not happening.
At this point, if you want to replay the trilogy with a controller, just buy 'em for cheap on Steam/Origin and use the controller mods. I recently replayed all three and they work pretty much perfectly. The hacking minigame in ME1 isn't well-suited for it, but that's the only real issue.
At this point, if you want to replay the trilogy with a controller, just buy 'em for cheap on Steam/Origin and use the controller mods. I recently replayed all three and they work pretty much perfectly. The hacking minigame in ME1 isn't well-suited for it, but that's the only real issue.
The Artisan
Member
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
Those two aren't comparable at all. Uncharted was PS3 only so many couldn't play it, hence why Sony said 80% of PS4 Owners had never played Uncharted.. ME was available nearly everywhere, even Wii U eventually, and sold really well. Not much room for new audiences there.
Except his point is that Uncharted was only on a single system and yet it still sold better than Mass Effect combined across all platforms.
Just because it's available everywhere doesn't mean it's a best-selling series.
In fact, for a long time Dragon Age sold a lot better than Mass Effect, even with DA2's less than stellar reputation.
In fact, Mass Effect may still have not sold as much as Dragon Age.
The only problem recommending the games on PC is while the base games may be cheap, the DLC is not. So expect to spend $100+ on it, if you want the full experience.
And it basically never goes on sale.
The Artisan
Member
they're very comparable. both are IPs that began last gen, both that originated in november 2007, both that have the second and third installments as critically acclaimed with the seconds' among the greatest games of all time, both seconds' installments also have a whopping 96 on metacritic, both are 3rd person shooters, and both have a 4th installment incoming this (or next) year that's hotly anticipated.
you said most people who are interested or will be potentially interested in Me4 for that matter have already played Me1-3, when Uc1-3 have already sold more. If you're not gauging it by sales, what are you going by to back up your assertion?
EA probably want greater thirst for the new game. You're talking three RPGs, and the first one needs a good going over. I think EA would rather not even just from a consumer burnout view and a bit more effort than slapping the PC versions together with controller support.
Have EA ever remastered any old games?
Have EA ever remastered any old games?
See, I'm of the mindset that players and fans have more power than that.
Countless other games, sequels, and properties have sat dormant, remakes that went unmade, sequels that never happened... but fans never shut up about it. They kept the demand up. Even when companies would say "there are no plans" or "it's not happening", fans would keep asking, keep demanding, and many times these companies acquiesced (possibly just to shut us all up).
After last year's "year of dreams", where projects like Shenmue III can be revived, where Final Fantasy 7 Remake can happen, where Nier 2 and Psychonauts 2 can crawl out of the ether and go into production, I am given very little motivation NOT to ask - and keep asking - for a dream project and a dream game of mine to come out.
And I'd argue that a Mass Effect Trilogy re-release with all DLC is one of the more practical and reasonable requests a fanbase could make. Granted, the fact that it IS so logical to do so might be why EA is so adamantly against the idea - possibly out of an allergic fear of money, success, and fan appreciation.
But I'm going to keep pestering them about it, with measured yet passionate reasons and points why they should do so that are mostly just logical ways of me explaining "this will make you money".
Edit: Eh, what the hell. Why not sign The Petition?
I completely agree but if they haven't started it by now it won't be ready before Andromeda. It took Bluepoint a year to remaster the 3 Uncharted games for example and this would take longer.
GametimeUK
Member
For PC could I play the first 2 on Steam and swap my progression to Origin with Mass Effect 3? Also, is there any decent way to get good controller support?
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
Higher sales says nothing about audiences. Uncharted was PS3's best franchise and bundled with it at one point, so of course it sold well...for the Sony audience. But tons of 360/Wii/PC players who got PS4's never played it, hence why an Uncharted Collection made sense.
Mass Effect sold really well, and it was on PC, 360, PS3 & Wii U. Don't think there are many PS4/XB1 owners who don't already have one of those.
Plus the ME Games are 100+ hours a piece: remastering all of that & selling it a budget price for a market that doesn't seem to be there? Don't really see the point. It'd be as pointless as Bethesda remastering Fallout 3 & Skyrim.
True, but while I would PREFER a remaster to hit before Andromeda, I'm more than happy buying one before, during, or after Andromeda as well. I will take it whenever they wish to release it.
I mean, even now, pre-ordering a new copy of Fallout 4 netted me Fallout 3 and pre-ordering Dark Souls 3 nets me Dark Souls 3. Bayonetta 1 was packaged in with Bayonetta 2. Alice: Madness Returns tossed in a free copy of American McGee's Alice.
Going even further back (I'm old...), I remember getting Shadow Hearts 1 for free with Shadow Hearts 2 because they wanted to tie fans over.
I was more than happy getting those older games in addition to the newer ones and had no qualms about playing those games before moving on to the new ones.
Hell, the only reason I originally pre-ordered Zelda: Wind Waker on Gamecube was because it came with a remastered version of Ocarina of Time: Master Quest.
None of the games are 100+ hours. Honestly, you'd have a hard time hitting 50 hours with them unless you spent a ton of time reading and mining.
I can 100 percent ME1 with all DLC under 35 hours while exploring all dialogue trees and not skipping any dialogue.
Pretty much everything Garlador said. Personally i am down for two copies. It is irritating because I have no interest in EA other than Bioware games and upcoming single player Star Wars games and they are about the only ones saying they wont do remasters. As others have said already, this is one of the few times that I want to give EA money and they dont seem to want it.
I actually only created a neogaf account after a decade of lurking when the Bioware GM was here asking about a remaster.
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Hah same here.