Red Arremer
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But the PSX doesn't have a mini version - it is already an enhanced version of the PS2. It also only ever came out in Japan. :/
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But the PSX doesn't have a mini version - it is already an enhanced version of the PS2. It also only ever came out in Japan. :/
A lot of people don't know that, or don't remember. Universal owned Crash and Spyro from jump. Sony had a partnership with them that extended through 3 games each, though Crash got an extra one with CTR
Yep. Even Crash and Spyro where never actually Sony's property.
Being fair, most NES and SNES classics were not the property of Nintendo either you know?
Most of the industry runs on third parties, its just that exclusivity was more tightly linked to individual platforms at the time.
Magicgamer101
Member
Very fond memories of the PS1& PS2 days. Those were my consoles growing up. Even early PS3 years I feel a weird sense of nostalgia for. The boom of online gaming hit at the same time I was in secondary school with all my friends, special memories.
I'm not sure why were limiting it to 1st party games because as a kid I had no idea what was 1st or 3rd party, all I knew were games I loved were on these consoles.
I'm not sure why were limiting it to 1st party games because as a kid I had no idea what was 1st or 3rd party, all I knew were games I loved were on these consoles.
Nightengale
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I'm replying to someone saying Sony sold them. Not drawing comparisons .
Yeah, i realized after i posted, sorry about that.
Its the same kind of thing with Rare, how memories can get so messed up with how Rare turned out with Xbox after all the nostalgia on Nintendo consoles. Its the same with Crash after ND stopped working on them and got turned over to many other lower quality devs
katsubento
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They do in other ways though. They do it with subtle things or nods and don't shove it in your face as much as others do.
The 20th Anniversary Dynamic theme has the sounds from the other PS 's startups for example.
I don't want a remake or reboot of all their franchises. Some yes. Many? No. Because for every reboot it usually means one less new title or IP we get.
Sequels to long gone franchises? Same. Not too many. They have to balance it out somehow.
The 20th Anniversary Dynamic theme has the sounds from the other PS 's startups for example.
I don't want a remake or reboot of all their franchises. Some yes. Many? No. Because for every reboot it usually means one less new title or IP we get.
Sequels to long gone franchises? Same. Not too many. They have to balance it out somehow.
This is not how you play the nostalgia card.
Nintendo IPs are not only old, but also ALIVE!
Let's play the first Zelda again, because a new Zelda is coming and it's tied to the original. Let's catch some Pokemon, and by the way, Sun/Moon is coming this fall.
As for Sony, first of all their IPs never reach the height of Mario or Zelda. Second, most of the old franchises are long dead. They don't have nostalgia card to play. Sony better leave it to the 3rd party, or they will get another PS all-star embarrassment.
Nintendo IPs are not only old, but also ALIVE!
Let's play the first Zelda again, because a new Zelda is coming and it's tied to the original. Let's catch some Pokemon, and by the way, Sun/Moon is coming this fall.
As for Sony, first of all their IPs never reach the height of Mario or Zelda. Second, most of the old franchises are long dead. They don't have nostalgia card to play. Sony better leave it to the 3rd party, or they will get another PS all-star embarrassment.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
So there's something to remember?
Agent X
Member
That's true, Sony has never really needed to rely on the nostalgia factor.
That said, it wouldn't hurt if they actually did embrace their past a little more. Also, at times when they do play the nostalgia card, they sometimes don't put as much effort into it as they should.
Take last year's 20th anniversary celebration as an example. I bought one of the 20th Anniversary DualShock 4 controllers, sporting the original PlayStation gray and with the multicolored "PS" logo. That was a slick piece of equipment. They also dressed up a headset in the same colors, and had downloadable themes for PS4, PS3, and Vita. All of this was very good. What would have really put the whole celebration over the top was if Sony enabled PS1 games to be playable on PS4 (at least the downloadable games). The timing would have been perfect, but sadly they missed this opportunity.
I agree.
On that note, I have to say that I would have also liked to see a special edition PSTV decked out in the classic PlayStation colors. They could promote it with some classic PS1 games, and it would have made a great little portable PS1 game player, much like the Atari Flashback consoles or the self-contained NES with 30 games that Nintendo announced earlier today.
katsubento
Member
Maybe they mean PSX as in original PlayStation.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
If they bring an old up back that's pulling a nostalgia card for fans of that game....what's going on in here. Releasing a new Mario,zelda,pokemon is not pulling a nostalgia card.
Releasing pokemon go is pulling at people's nostalgia
Making a new star fox even tho it really doesn't sell is pulling a nostalgia card
Releasing that mini nes is for nostalgia.
No matter what some of you feel releasing a new ape escape,crash whatever other old ass game associated with PlayStation would be pulling out the nostalgia card.
I don't know why many of the people here seems to be having difficult time understanding why we feel that Sony don't really had nostalgia pull here.
From that NES mini itself, Nintendo had 15 titles which is half of the software list and rest is filled with tons of popular third parties. It shows Nintendo had tons of software with nostalgia which they can bank on.
However a PS1 Mini won't had that as the title we are going to remember a lot more is not going to be Sony's own title but mostly all third party titles.
My memory of PS1 is filled by titles like Suikoden,FF7 and 9, Rayman 2, Misadventures of Tron Bonne, Rival Schools, Klonoa, Monster Rancher, Parasite Eve, Fear Effect, Tekken, Panzer Bandit, Tekken, Valkyrie Profile, Megaman X4-6, Front Mission 3, Xenogears and my personal gem, Guybrave 2 and Brigandine.
From many of those title, it is more or less third party titles all around so i don't really feel nostalgia towards Sony but more on PS1 itself.
Edit: How can i forget one of my favorite title, Chocobo Mystery Dungeon, Chocobo Dungeon, Bomberman Racing and Rockman Battle and Chase. All my childhood games.^_^
From that NES mini itself, Nintendo had 15 titles which is half of the software list and rest is filled with tons of popular third parties. It shows Nintendo had tons of software with nostalgia which they can bank on.
However a PS1 Mini won't had that as the title we are going to remember a lot more is not going to be Sony's own title but mostly all third party titles.
My memory of PS1 is filled by titles like Suikoden,FF7 and 9, Rayman 2, Misadventures of Tron Bonne, Rival Schools, Klonoa, Monster Rancher, Parasite Eve, Fear Effect, Tekken, Panzer Bandit, Tekken, Valkyrie Profile, Megaman X4-6, Front Mission 3, Xenogears and my personal gem, Guybrave 2 and Brigandine.
From many of those title, it is more or less third party titles all around so i don't really feel nostalgia towards Sony but more on PS1 itself.
Edit: How can i forget one of my favorite title, Chocobo Mystery Dungeon, Chocobo Dungeon, Bomberman Racing and Rockman Battle and Chase. All my childhood games.^_^
Well I don't know about embracing nostalgia, because many things are not magically good now simply because they've been gone for awhile, but I do think it's high time we can play PS1 games on PS4. Or at the minimum have PS1 games get added to PS Now.
And if they're going to announce either of these features, at PSX would probably be a good place for it...
And if they're going to announce either of these features, at PSX would probably be a good place for it...
Red Arremer
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They probably do, but that acronym makes no sense, because the Sony PlayStation has no X in its name, and there is an actual Sony PSX which the Sony PlayStation is not.
I just don't understand the convention for this acronym, PS1 is much clearer, especially now that there's 4 PlayStations and several different models as well - including a PSX.
They should embrace Wipeout nostalgia and make another one of those. Also Patapon. Or at least bring them to current gen.
Aside from Wipeout and Patapon I have no real nostalgia feels for Sony. There have definitely been good exclusives over the years but I'm not sure I'll ever be like "oh shit a new Medievil!" Or whatever other other dead franchise that would probably be better off staying dead at this point.
Aside from Wipeout and Patapon I have no real nostalgia feels for Sony. There have definitely been good exclusives over the years but I'm not sure I'll ever be like "oh shit a new Medievil!" Or whatever other other dead franchise that would probably be better off staying dead at this point.
peaceiscloser
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I think an important thing about the NES mini is that it's games are really lightweight. Classics for sure, but aside from the more RPG games, most of it's titles were born from the post arcade era with high accessibility. Super Mario Bros is just so much easier to get into than most games in the PS1 era. This would be worse with PS2 games. I think most people would have a tough time going back to outdated mechanics and blurry graphics.
Because the nes mini is all first party games and those are all the games on PS1.
AuthenticM
Member
Yes.
The Legend of Dragoon 2. Pre-rendered backgrounds. 4K.
Gimme.
The Legend of Dragoon 2. Pre-rendered backgrounds. 4K.
Gimme.
Exactly. They may be third party but that doesn't change my nostalgia nor the fact i associate them with playstation. Also they're some of the biggest games in the industries history.
Theanine3D
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Nostalgia has never really worked in Sony's favor before. I don't know why. But no.
They don't seem to need it anyway.
The best games on Sony platforms since the PS1 have mostly all been third party anyway so it's not like they can do much by themselves.
They don't seem to need it anyway.
The best games on Sony platforms since the PS1 have mostly all been third party anyway so it's not like they can do much by themselves.
paragonpro
Banned
Yes but they shouldnt rely on it like nintendo seems to
CamHostage
Member
I'd love it if Sony did more remakes, as there are some amazing franchises in Sony's past, but Medieval Resurrection didn't work, neither Twisted Metal (the PS3 game or the Head-On remake) made an impact, PS All-Stars didn't prove any fanbase for the stars, now Shadow of the Beast is come and gone ... I just don't know if that audience is consistent.
They've also put PS1 games on Android and nobody noticed, so putting its classics on other platforms might not do anything either.
But I'd be totally game for Sony to try more, and I do believe that a few brands will succeed if they tried and got them right on just value in a genre to a new audience, never mind nostalgia carryover.
They've also put PS1 games on Android and nobody noticed, so putting its classics on other platforms might not do anything either.
But I'd be totally game for Sony to try more, and I do believe that a few brands will succeed if they tried and got them right on just value in a genre to a new audience, never mind nostalgia carryover.
Well, that is going to happen when Sony themselves don't really give a damn on maintaining good reps for their IP there.
They easily killed company which make MAG and Socom and those who made them Wipeout.
I also still hate Sony after what they did to Badman franchise here.T_T That is easily one of the best title on PSP and not only they abandon the title, they move the title to mobile gaming and butcher the genre into some generic puzzle game.T_T No wonder i don't give a damn about their old franchise.T_T
Hell, now Siren franchise is also more or less forgotten.T_T And that is one of my fav too.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
They have some old playstation one games that need new games but nobody how they gon sell
Oh, hey, I'm being obtuse. Don't mind me, I'm just saying what I feel is being said by you and a few others here. I mean, it's cool to blame drive by posts and shit explainations on me, right?
You should ask FCUK Konami there. Tx for killing Hudson KONAMI!!!!O_O
Blackleg-sanji1
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I second this... unless of course it would somehow get in the way of a new ape escape than I'd have to say F parappa lol
What does Shadow of the Beast have to do with Sony? Wasn't it a C64 and Genesis game originally? And TM: Head On was pretty good, for a PSP port....so you're going to have a limited audience there to begin with. However, to your point, I don't think the other new gen TMs really recaptured or understood why TM2 was so great
Blackleg-sanji1
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It pulled at the nostalgia strings of fans of the franchise.
I'd take it. The more 3D fighters we get in this day and age, the better. New Bloody Roar, new Virtua Fighter, new SoulCalibur. Bushido Blade and Tobal revivals too.
Awwghh, I forgot that Konami owns it now
Konami sitting on all these franchises that they're never going to touch with anything but pachinko machines. Guhh...
Who cares about those 2 title. The only title important are new Boku no Natsuyasumi, What did i do to deserve this Badman, Patapon, Aquanaut's Holiday and Arc the Lad series.
The other can go and die on corner.T_T
Sorcerer Supreme
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sony cant even give us ps1 emulation or disc backwards compatibility on ps4. they could've offered 360 like backwards compatibility with ps2 games also but didn't.
they dont give a shit
they dont give a shit
katsubento
Member
PSX was what it was called before it released. There's a reason. And it was way before the actual PSX name was used for the PS2 Japan only DVR. You must be young because we all called the PS1 PSX back in the day. There was no PS1 because it was still the first.
Blackleg-sanji1
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vanDoughnut
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Sony has played with nostalgia pretty well in ways that resonated with a lot of people.
"Hey remember FFVII, Shenmue, and the Last Guardian. They're back"
"Hey remember that crazy Kojima guy who made all those games for you, we gave him wheelbarrows of cash. He's back"
"Hey remember Kratos, he's back and has a beard"
"Ni No Kuni, it's back"
They're straight tugging on nostalgic heart strings man! Making grown men weep lol they're conscious of it and are at times surprisingly in tune with the nostalgia we have.
They don't have the brands like Mario, Pokemon. But they use what they got well to build diverse libraries with relevant games. And I like that they embrace new IPs, as amazing as the new Zelda looks Sony has been pretty great at surprising us.
"Hey remember FFVII, Shenmue, and the Last Guardian. They're back"
"Hey remember that crazy Kojima guy who made all those games for you, we gave him wheelbarrows of cash. He's back"
"Hey remember Kratos, he's back and has a beard"
"Ni No Kuni, it's back"
They're straight tugging on nostalgic heart strings man! Making grown men weep lol they're conscious of it and are at times surprisingly in tune with the nostalgia we have.
They don't have the brands like Mario, Pokemon. But they use what they got well to build diverse libraries with relevant games. And I like that they embrace new IPs, as amazing as the new Zelda looks Sony has been pretty great at surprising us.
PS1 and PS2 were some of the best consoles ever with plenty of GOAT games candidates. If you don't see the point in bringing some of those franchises back into the light then a "PS Mini" isn't for you. Out of the 100's of millions of people who owned a PS1 and/or PS2, someone's bound to see the value in this idea.
On another note... Am I missing something or wouldn't a "PS Mini" just be a PS2? Or a PS3 with PS1/2 emulation? Is this thread just asking Sony to re-release a PS3 alongside old ip revivals/remasters/reboots/sequels like the slew of games we've already been getting?
On another note... Am I missing something or wouldn't a "PS Mini" just be a PS2? Or a PS3 with PS1/2 emulation? Is this thread just asking Sony to re-release a PS3 alongside old ip revivals/remasters/reboots/sequels like the slew of games we've already been getting?
SlipperyFishes
Banned
They're not lying. You can't compare third party developed games with first party Nintendo as Sony don't have permissions around a lot of the PS1 crud.
SlipperyFishes
Banned
It was never called PSX outside of the US.
Ape escape die in a corner.....
Never really cared about all those monkeys lol.
I just want moar of this.
And This
Ummm. that Kratos thingy and Ni No Kuni is not nostalgia like at all though.That just making a sequel there especially when the last game is released not that long ago. I won't even comment on Kojima thingy there as it is totally a different beast.
TreasureHunterG
Banned
Sony's legacy is built mostly on third-party stuff, as already said, and many of them were previously Nintendo stuff as well, especially on PSX days, like Capcom, Square and Konami. I don't really think Crash, Spyro and Gran Turismo are that nostalgic to gamers.
Agent X
Member
Sony owns it as a result of their acquisition of Psygnosis.
I believe the Amiga version was the original. The C64 and Genesis versions (among others) came afterward.
This is my feeling.. the fact the PlayStation came around the beginning of the 3D craze means they have some really rough old games that did not age well. Lots of 2D stuff plays fine these days but early 3D.. ugh no thanks.
The Horror the horror
Banned
Name me three first party games that Sony can remake in HD and have a reasonable expectation of being successful.