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[idrago01]

smh.

I love how you don't even see how ironic your post is.

Abby is still mocapped by real people bud...

You can find any person attractive, but you disagreeing with how someone looks isn't any conspiracy anymore then the fucking people bashing Ghost Of Tsushima.

"Despite the fact they're based on the mocap performance from the actresses who voiced them? And the actresses are not ugly by any means." smh. Yea bud, thats your view, have you not factored the same can be applied to The Last Of Us 2?

So someone out there finds this person attractive as she has a shit load of fans.

Someone finds this person attractive no different then you like those women on GoT...

So at the end of the day, those faces and bodies clearly exist in real life and some people find em attractive. You not liking it isn't some agenda bud, it sounds weird too, like you MUST like all things for them to be valid and just or something. Heck, I don't find some of the women in GoT attractive, but as someone thats been to Japan, I don't find ALL FEMALES IN JAPAN attractive so I have nothing against how they did the game.

They represent how people clearly look like there soooooo thats more then enough for me to enjoy the game. You cant get mad at people saying this about GoT, then argue against The Last Of Us 2 cause you think someone isn't attractive or something.

Who cares?

why are you so against people wanting more attractive females in video games? honest question

 

[Danjin44]

Every time people make thread like this it just goes around in circle, both side making same type of arguments and the discussion just doesn't really go anywhere.

the reality is that It just how it is with modern western games these days and as much as I personally don't like it, same way Japanese developers are free to make attractive characters, so are western developers are free to make whatever they want.

I already made peace with the fact that I will get my beautiful character designs both male and female from Japanese games.

 

[Cactuarman]

It must suck so bad that you're forced to read and reply to them.

My personal annoyance with these threads is that they don't allow for any variance - it's one of those topics on GAF (like SJWs) where the thread always goes basically the same way. It always seems like there could be a conversation in here about western vs eastern character design. But most of the time we get the same examples and the same hardlining:

• "There are no attractive women in western games anymore"
• "I don't know I think [character] is pretty attractive".
• "No she's ugly"

Cool

I mean someone literally called Chloe "ugly". Not "I don't really find her attractive" or "I prefer characters like Kasumi in DOA". But no, Chloe is "ugly". Come on.

why are you so against people wanting more attractive females in video games? honest question

EDMIX 's point was just "some people find em attractive" and you respond with that strawman? Honest question.

 

[Elcid]

They made her ugly. I used that pic to show how she looks in 2 and 3. Is this better for you?

She kinda looks like she's been doing heroin in that last picture. At the very least meth.

 

[The Fartist]

Every time people make thread like this it just goes around in circle, both side making same type of arguments and the discussion just doesn't really go anywhere.

 

[anothertech]

Sad world we live in. 2020 can go to hell.

 

[idrago01]

Every time people make thread like this it just goes around in circle, both side making same type of arguments and the discussion just doesn't really go anywhere.

the reality is that It just how it is with modern western games these days and as much as I personally don't like it, same way Japanese developers are free to make attractive characters, so are western developers are free to make whatever they want.

I already made peace with the fact that I will get my beautiful character designs both male and female from Japanese games.

vote with your wallet if u don't like the way things are, acceptance and mindlessly buying their crappy content is what they want you to do

 

[Danjin44]

vote with your wallet if u don't like the way things are, acceptance and mindlessly buying their crappy content is what they want you to do

I just buy what I like, its that simple.

 

[The Fartist]

Sad world we live in. 2020 can go to hell.

Everytime I hear shit like this:

I mean did we forget or something? 2020 ain't got shit on the last century.

With that being said, I understand your frustrations. But really, it's not that bad, you just happen to exist at the moment.

 

[Vaelka]

I think that it just depends on what the devs want to do.

I do think that in the West developers who want to make conventionally attractive or sexualized characters aren't allowed to do it because of pesky marketing teams or hysterical shenanigans in the media or even from other devs in the studio causing a fuzz.
The reason why we're not really seeing it much if at all ( especially in new games ) in the West isn't because devs that want to do it don't exist, just a quick look at the art that artists create says it all. Even devs that work in these studios, their personal work is often times quite different than their professional work that is more '' pc ''.

With that said if devs want to create characters like Abby in TLOU2 or obese characters or characters that appeals to some niche that's fine and I think that it's stupid to complain about those characters too.
But it does irritate me how people on the other end often don't return the favor and throw a gigantic tantrum the moment that a female character is sexualized or whatever.
Especially when it's people in the industry too who take to Twitter to sit around bitching about what devs do in their games like fuck off with that shit and let devs create.
Not saying it doesn't happen the other way around too because it does, and I think that's stupid too.

To me it's not a matter of '' should and shouldn't '' even tho I voted yes.
It's a matter of what do the devs want to do?
And I don't think that the devs that want to do this are given the option to do it in the AAA.

Something else that annoys me too is how anything that isn't '' realistic '' gets a bunch of dudebros bitching about it ( and some '' SJW's '' too ).
There's no fucking stupid rule in fiction that says that fiction HAVE to be '' realistic '', please take out the sticks in your asses about that I am so tired of it.
I don't want to fucking hear about how '' unrealistic '' heels are in Nier Automata or Mortal Kombat, and if you're going to complain about that then at the very least use your brain and be consistent about it.
If people actually did use their brains about it they'd realize how stupid it is to zero in on things like that when it's like the least unrealistic thing ever in these games.

What makes this especially annoying too is how it's being pushed as some '' progressive '' move when sexualization is erased.
But one only needs to take one look at black culture to see how hyper-sexualized it is.
This whole puritan thing in media is primarily pushed by white people who took a social science class and now believe that they're these experts about it.

 

[Kdad]

Yeah...I love that GAF become fucking ground hog day on this topic...OP could add his opinion to an existing thread instead of beating himself off to ugly horses.

 

[Rickyiez]

smh.

I love how you don't even see how ironic your post is.

Abby is still mocapped by real people bud...

The problem is the actual in-game model looks nothing like the mocap actress irregardless of the body built . My first thought when I saw Abby face was , "wasn't that a man" and not the person from the photo above .

 

[Aggressive Carrot]

Western developers can compromise by making all their female characters butter faces.

guys theres women that looks like this. stop complaining. who cares?

I laughed way too hard at this.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

They made her ugly.

Well, she was admittedly changed and a little less glamorous or exotic, but I think she looks good though. She's still a notch above most Western female designs imo though.

I understand she's not to everyone's tastes or preferences, but I don't think she's even remotely close to "ugly". Then again, I do occasionally have unique taste in beauty.

 

[Melfice7]

Devs oughta do the char's they want, be it attractive or not. do whatever the fuck you want

But since the idiotic PC culture of the united states has to be considered, there will always be second thoughts on designing a char

 

[Matsuchezz]

Attractive female characters are always good to look at, I mean Tifa in FFVII Remake looks really hot and gorgeous and this type of character is always welcomed, do I need them to be in every single game, not really I can play or interact with almost any kind of character, I just want the game to be good, the story interesting, and believable characters, if they are hot that is a plus, i just do not like douches and bitches, they exist but are the kind of people/game characters I do not want to be around. Everyone else is welcomed.

BTW I think hot characters appear more on Sci-Fi games or games that are not based in reality, The only character that I think is pretty is Lara Croft on their latest games. What would be a good looking character in a game grounded in reality.

guys theres women that looks like this. stop complaining. who cares?

Is that picture of a real woman?, looks like a muppet

 

[Gamerguy84]

Absolutely. We need hair tesselation and boob physics with these new processors.

 

[brap]

Well, she was admittedly changed and a little less glamorous or exotic, but I think she's looks good though. She's still a notch above most Western female designs imo though.

It's funny how she makes her appearance in U2 as trying to seduce Drake and they just decide to ugly her up. She's supposed to be hot. Didn't do that to Elena.

I understand she's not to everyone's tastes or preferences, but I don't think she's even remotely close to "ugly". Then again, I do occasionally have unique taste in beauty.

Unique is definitely a word.

 

[Orutisu Furio]

At this rate with political correctness and societal decline, we will probably start seeing morbidly obese females and diabetic game characters being portrayed as courageous and flawless.

There's a reason why a lot of indie games have weird stories that deal with dark themes and "depression" and other nonsense that doesn't belong in video games.

It's because the people making our games today in the western world are cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.

 

[idrago01]

At this rate with political correctness and societal decline we will probably start seeing morbidly obese and diabetic game characters being portrayed as courageous and flawless.

we do have body positive models now, only a matter of time

 

[TheGrat1]

They should make neurolinks in our brains and depending on how horny you are the adaptive character appearance system changes the attractivity of the protagonist. Horny boys be playing the game as the Belgian Health Minister the entire game whilst we cool guys enjoying some fine Kate Beckinsale.

I had no idea who this was so I looked her up and uhhh..... let's just say: Woah.

And Kate Beckinsale =

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

we do have body positive models now, only a matter of time

Does anyone take that seriously, though? Honest question. Like, that's clearly what the fashion industry's trying to force down people's throats... I just dunno if people in the real world respond positively to it.

 

[idrago01]

Does anyone take that seriously, though? Honest question. Like, that's clearly what the fashion industry's trying to force down people's throats... I just dunno if people in the real world respond positively to it.

i don't think it matters if people like it to these companies to be honest, activism appears to be more important than profit or what the consumer wants

 

[Lethal01]

that's fine but they didn't de-age her if anything they made her look more butch, i think they should have used a younger actress for the role and one that looks more japanese

How much younger is the character in the game than the actor?

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Nope. They have found their market of soyboys so why should they?

 

[idrago01]

How much younger is the character in the game than the actor?

i don't know, but the actual actress is 48 and looks to be in her fifties in the game, imo i thought the character yuna should have been played by a younger actress

 

[Lethal01]

She kinda looks like she's been doing heroin in that last picture. At the very least meth.

Every picture there looks extremely uncanny since it's more of a reference shot to showcase an unbiased look at the 3d model.

 

[Lethal01]

i don't know, but the actual actress is 48 and looks to be in her fifties in the game, imo i thought the character yuna should have been played by a younger actress

What about her character made you think she should have been younger?

 

[idrago01]

What about her character made you think she should have been younger?

really just my personal preference, i felt she should have been in her late 30's, the irl actress is 48 and in game she looks even slightly older to me

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Just make them normally nice and pretty.

No need to go too far in either direction.

Why is there a poll up there? Is this up for debate?

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

The fuck The Fartist

 

[EDMIX]

The problem is the actual in-game model looks nothing like the mocap actress

Thats not a problem as thats irrelevant.

They wanted a different body as thats based on the narrative of her building herself up to kill Joel. That story element can't be expected to be pulled off by a person thats clearly not a crossfit champion.

So what you are bringing up is literally irrelevant. They don't need to use the same actors to do the bodywork as thats not unusual in gaming or other media if someone is unable to physically do something, consider its not even normal for actors in films to just do all the martial arts and stunts or something. They have stunt doubles and body doubles for obvious reasons so I don't see any law they broke to get so worked up over.

ie Chris Redfield's voice actor in Resident Evil 5 clearly is not fucking Jay Cutler... Thats not a problem though, that is artistic liberty. Not all men look like Jay Cutler bud, using your logic all models of men not jacked are women or something. So Jay Cutler doesn't represent all men anymore then Colleen Fotsch represents all women. So clearly we can understand that the voice actor doesn't match the body in RE5 to get the voice actor likely won't match the body in The Last Of Us 2 as there is a literal narrative reason for her.....gains.

 

[GreatnessRD]

They should make whatever they like. Whether the chick looks like Rihanna or Brock Lesnar, shouldn't let these sensitive ass binary frying pans dictate their work.

 

[Raonak]

I really don't care about what a character looks like tbh.

 

[Spukc]

Not everyone wants their woman look like 12 year olds with huge tits... fucking weebs

 

[The Fartist]

The fuck The Fartist

 

[UnNamed]

Neogaf hate women?

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

The second to the last gif.

Thats not a problem as thats irrelevant.

They wanted a different body as thats based on the narrative of her building herself up to kill Joel. That story element can't be expected to be pulled off by a person thats clearly not a crossfit champion.

Who needs roids when you have shitty writing to push the plot forward?


(you)

 

[Hoya Destroyer]

As the power of SJW's grows, we'll see less cool content in video games.
I think the easiest way to put hot girls in games now, is either for the devs to just do it and not speak publically about it, or to just outright say that your game is targeting a straight male demographic. Keep it simple and honest.

 

[cormack12]

Chloe was definitely changed multiple times. She is definitely attractive though. I think it was largely because they retconned her to have Indian heritage though. They probably wanted a more distinguishable look to support that. I do find it funny though, given the amount of crying people did about Lara's face that ND were given passes on this as well.

 

[The Fartist]

The second to the last gif.

Oh sorry, I thought we were all adults in here. Sorry for assuming your age.

 

[Raonak]

This feels like a waifu begging thread.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Eh I'm no mod

 

[anothertech]

Everytime I hear shit like this:

I mean did we forget or something? 2020 ain't got shit on the last century.

With that being said, I understand your frustrations. But really, it's not that bad, you just happen to exist at the moment.

Who exactly said it was worse than the Holocaust? Virtue signal much?

 

[Radical Dreamer]

Honestly this is all moot anyways. No female can ever touch Aerith from FF7R, she is literal perfection.

Couldn't agree more ;d

 

[SirTerry-T]

She kinda looks like she's been doing heroin in that last picture. At the very least meth.

I'm not up on Uncharted "lore" but isn't Chloe supposed to have Indian parentage? In which case the newer model does a far better job of showing her ethnicity than the older ones, which, as nice as they look, are a bit on the bland side a.k.a "sculpted with the symmetry button turned on".
The new one has far more character to her face while also looking like an attractive woman.

As always, horses for courses, each to their own, etc, etc...repeat till fade...

 

[CrysisFreak]

make wahmen kissable again!!!1!

 

[Redlancet]

why are you so against people wanting more attractive females in video games? honest question

why are you agains females? a childhood trauma?

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

It's beyond ridiculous that we can't at least on occasion have a sexy female in western games anymore, what's wrong with some fucking variety? All female character designs in western games are all the same level of toned down now and it's fucking BORING.

Again, for variety's sake there should be at least on occasion a sexy female character, that way everyone gets what they want, but SJWs are so absurdly self centered and dictatorial that they demand everything be put through their filter and it's total fucking bullshit.

Fair is fair and SJWs are simply not fair.

Fair would be allowing developers to have a variety of different female characters for a variety of tastes, but the last thing SJWs want is people to have any freedom of choice.

 

[the_master]

It is not about making beautiful female characters, it is about the culture that female bodies are offensive and the property of their husbands.

That is why female characters in media try to cover and hide female features.

Again, nothing wrong with the human body, nothing wrong about showing your sexy features, nothing wrong with sexuality and sexual desire, and nothing wrong with liking beautiful and sexy human bodies.