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Since when did Gamespot become this bad?

I feel like it's every week I hear on Twitter "person x is leaving GameSpot. Wish him luck".

I wonder what's going on over there. Could easily just be people getting out of the San Fran rent mess
 
Was once the outlet that raised the standards of gaming journalism.

Once van Ord left, it was the final nail in the coffin.
 
Anyway I didn't realize this:

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Nothing surprising about that? Maybe might have expected a few more Canadians I guess..
 
I, for one, refuse to read anything that isn't in list form.

(wish Giantbomb would just steal Danny O'Dwyer permanently, he always seems like such a natural fit when he's on the Bombcast)
 
Now all I can think of is a barren apocalyptic hellscape. A fallen civilization's discarded detritus blows through asphalt covered wastelands as a thousand throats cry "HEY GUYS! LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE!" to an uncaring sky.

Don't forget starting everything with an energetic / insincere "WHAT IS UP EVERYBODY!" Followed by some spiel in an increasingly homogenized radio announcer-like voice. Blech.
 
Not that I'm a fan of this article in particular or Gamespot in general, because I'm not.

But just out of curiosity, is there any site for games that GAF in general likes? Because according to the collective, Gamespot sucks, IGN sucks, Kotaku sucks, Polygon definitely sucks, and most of the rest just aren't well known enough for most people to have an opinion about.

And the funny thing is that whenever there's a gaming media outlet that gives gamers what they say they want—straight news unfettered by human interest articles, light hearted pieces, or news of tangential interest to geeks—it always goes out of business or eventually gets reformatted into a site that actually makes money.
 
The future of AAA gaming is games as services, people stick to playing a few games for years..

The future of games is all kinds of games, not just one paradigm. Not long ago the future of games was mobile. Now app stores are disasters and they haven't and won't destroy core gaming.

Some people play one game forever. Some people just want f2p time wasters. Some people want variety. Some people want indie 2d games. Some people want open world games. Some people want RPGs. Some people want shooters.
 
Not that I'm a fan of this article in particular or Gamespot in general, because I'm not.

But just out of curiosity, is there any site for games that GAF in general likes? Because according to the collective, Gamespot sucks, IGN sucks, Kotaku sucks, Polygon definitely sucks, and most of the rest just aren't well known enough for most people to have an opinion about.

And the funny thing is that whenever there's a gaming media outlet that gives gamers what they say they want—straight news unfettered by human interest articles, light hearted pieces, or news of tangential interest to geeks—it always goes out of business or eventually gets reformatted into a site that actually makes money.

I like Eurogamer, mostly for the Digital Foundry stuff they do. And I do like the long form and historical stuff that Kotaku does. But I come to GAF for actual news and info.
 
Not that I'm a fan of this article in particular or Gamespot in general, because I'm not.

But just out of curiosity, is there any site for games that GAF in general likes? Because according to the collective, Gamespot sucks, IGN sucks, Kotaku sucks, Polygon definitely sucks, and most of the rest just aren't well known enough for most people to have an opinion about.

I only visit Giant Bomb and Digital Foundry. I feel these two are part of a handful of sites that GAF seems to be positive on based on the frequency of new threads that appear.

But if you ask some people, GB are a bunch of old farts that hate video games because they're not reacting like they've won the lottery at the sight of a game announcement.
 
i used to visit numerous sites multiple times a day:
kotaku
joystiq
go nintendo
1up
gamestop
ign
gamefaqs


now:
i just go to neogaf
 
There are a few good ones, Danny and Mary being two of them. But I'd rather see see them start another site or go over to CNET to round out their video game personalities roster. I think Giant Bomb is in a good place right now and are served well by gradually expanding. Basically, Giant Bomb needs to be strategic (like they have been) in adding people instead of any sort of wholesale hiring.

Giant Bomb is the Commandos™ of vg journalism, everyone has a function.

The think-piece videos Danny does would be a welcome addition to Giant Bomb. There's definitely room for some more informative/investigative videos and Danny usually injects his own humour so they're not stuffy. That he gels well with the other guys and is a good fit for all the other shenanigans is a bonus. Mary I really like too, but she's primarily a video producer and I don't think GB needs more of those.
 
I like GameSpot.

Maybe it's because my RSS feed for it has been limited to news and reviews. I find its news stories to be some of the most thorough and its reviews to still be some of the most useful.
 
Games media is proving itself to be further and further irrelevant. Especially with the advent of mainstream open betas and social media, I don't need gamespot to tell me if Overwatch is good.
 
Gamespot was done as soon as they fired Gerstmann.

It's funny that Danny is the only good thing left on that site, since he was originally a Gamespot forum poster.
 
I didn't realize until read their Uncharted 4 review. Who the heck was that guy reviewing it? I have never even seen him before.The entire review was talking about how wonderful the story was and the emotions on the character's faces. It read like a summary of the game's story and an advertorial piece with no real substance.
 
i used to visit numerous sites multiple times a day:
kotaku
joystiq
go nintendo
1up
gamestop
ign
gamefaqs


now:
i just go to neogaf
Joystiq were 80% reblogging (source: x at the bottom, sometimes it's even just a tweet) and 20% opinion. Same goes for so many gaming sites nowadays, just varying on that ratio.

So now I cut the "middle man" and just check gaf and reddit instead.
 
Joystiq were 80% reblogging (source: x at the bottom, sometimes it's even just a tweet) and 20% opinion. Same goes for so many gaming sites nowadays, just varying on that ratio.

So now I cut the "middle man" and just check gaf and reddit instead.

Which subreddit? Because both /gaming AND /games are terrible.
 
I used to follow Gamespot on twitter but every other post is click-bait bs. I agree with everyone that I'd love to see Danny move to GiantBomb and keep doing work like he does with "The Point".
 
I think it all started going downhill when Greg Kasavin left. And then you had the Kane & Lynch nonsense, and after that... it was basically over.
 
The think-piece videos Danny does would be a welcome addition to Giant Bomb. There's definitely room for some more informative/investigative videos and Danny usually injects his own humour so they're not stuffy. That he gels well with the other guys and is a good fit for all the other shenanigans is a bonus. Mary I really like too, but she's primarily a video producer and I don't think GB needs more of those.

More video productions and cutting promos on Cincinnati chili is never redundant.
 
i used to visit numerous sites multiple times a day:
kotaku
joystiq
go nintendo
1up
gamestop
ign
gamefaqs


now:
i just go to neogaf

Same.

Its not just that the content on these sites are lacking now. They are slow and a pain to navigate. Their video players are terrible and there's just shit constantly popping up on the screen at all times.

I think IGN was at it's peak when the format looked more like this

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It was simple, easy to navigate.. Easy on the eyes. There was a lot to read and the articles were more interesting, less clickbaity
 
Since Gerstmanngate, not been the same. Then there's Ad block, the rise of YouTube and the death of dedicated games press. It's a shame cause I loved the days of Greg Kasavin, Carrie Gouskos and Rich Gallop etc. I hope the decline doesn't hurt Giant Bomb as they all come under the CBS umbrella...
 
Since Gerstmanngate, not been the same. Then there's Ad block, the rise of YouTube and the death of dedicated games press. It's a shame cause I loved the days of Greg Kasavin, Carrie Gouskos and Rich Gallop etc. I hope the decline doesn't hurt Giant Bomb as they all come under the CBS umbrella...

That was the golden age man. 2003-2007

Gallop, Navarro, Gerstmann, Kasavin, Gouskos, Shoemaker, Ryan Davis.....

Good thing most of the crew is on GiantBomb.
 
Maybe future game reviews will be restructured to be top 10 countdown. I'm Chuck from GameReview.com and here are 10 critiques about No Man's Sky.
 
That was the golden age man. 2003-2007

Gallop, Navarro, Gerstmann, Kasavin, Gouskos, Shoemaker, Ryan Davis.....

Good thing most of the crew is on GiantBomb.

Hell, yeah. What a day. I would go to Gametrailers to check out the latest video/reviews, check the reviews and coverage on Gamespot, visit 1up for 1-UP Shows and Retronaut

/sniff
 
Slow news days before E3. This happens every year in most media outlets. Prepare to see a lot of tops, opinions and Overwatch videos/gifs,etc.
Celebrating 20 years of Gamespot.

Weird that it actually took 42 posts for somebody to mention the actual purpose of the article...

It's just a fun, dumb little piece of fluff -- sites are allowed that indulgence every once in a while, I would hope (especially since they all got rid of their Letters sections.) It's not a well-done article, but I don't know why this was singled out as evidence of journalism taking a piss.

That said, GameSpot is in a rough time right now, and everybody in the business is potentially up against it. Even though GAF generally hates on IGN, you will see "IGN: Blahblah" posts on GAF because there's still an audience; when's the last time you saw GameSpot content quoted around here? It's sad, I think the site still does good work, but everybody has been struggling in the media market quicksand, and junky click-bait stories need to be part of your editorial process. The ideal is to work within junky formats to put nutrition inside so that there's value to the readers (and the writers, for that matter) despite its primary appeal being the mesmerized-by-the-countdown dummies, but it's not easy, and there's not a lot of time budgeted to make quality content these days.

And BTW, notice how many threads are going up on GAF about "Where's all the E3 leaks?" or "How come it seems like we know nothing about what'll be at E3?" The gaming business in general is in a hinky place where there are only AAA products and indies (and mobile games, which are their own weird category that have a special risk/reward/failure system to them, but since mobile products don't generally have a fanbase interested in journalism about them, I separate them for the purpose of this discussion.) There is not a lot to cover, and the games that are being covered need to be covered and covered and covered again because they now take 3 years to make instead of 1 or 2. This is not a buyer's market anymore, and some things are going to have to happen that core game fans will not like in order for the business to be healthy.

Don't judge a site's value by its worst content (unless that material is actually dangerous, like spreading bunk rumors or reviewing without a true understanding of the product); let its best content speak for its worth and leave the junk to the junk hounds.
 
I will never advocate for firings but their model is unsustainable. Too much people for what they are really producing in terms of entertainment and journalism. The Giantbomb or Kinda Funny models are way more reliable. Even Easy Allies, which is a recent example, has too many people, in my opinion.
 
I will never advocate for firings but their model is unsustainable. Too much people for what they are really producing in terms of entertainment and journalism. The Giantbomb or Kinda Funny models are way more reliable. Even Easy Allies, which is a recent example, has too many people, in my opinion.

I feel like most games media sites are just way too inflated in an age where solo youtubers can put out better content more reliably.
 
There are a few good ones, Danny and Mary being two of them. But I'd rather see see them start another site or go over to CNET to round out their video game personalities roster. I think Giant Bomb is in a good place right now and are served well by gradually expanding. Basically, Giant Bomb needs to be strategic (like they have been) in adding people instead of any sort of wholesale hiring.

Giant Bomb is the Commandos™ of vg journalism, everyone has a function.
I think West Coast GB is feeling a bit thin these days and you couldn't pick a better two hires to flesh it out.

It won't happen though.
 
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