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Single Malt Whisky - Peat Two

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Ugh I should have looked in that first thread yesterday. I went to the liquor store to get a decent bottle of whiskey and was overwhelmed with the options; ended up getting a Rye blend instead 'cause I didn't know what sort of single malt to get

dear lord man! just pick literally ANYTHING else than what you got. Go for the ron swanson at least.

in my cabinet just now

the end of a lagavulin 16 (sob)
a dalwhinnie 16 (great)
Carn mor 'strictly limited' highland (also great)
and a johnnie walker gold as a gift which I also like.

I have kind of a soft spot for Johnnie walker. I've tasted em all and it was my go to before I ever knew about single malts. I've been lucky enough to be gifted a blue and a gold in the past 2 years as well.
 
Has anyone had the Ardberg Corryvreckan that Abercrombie has winning his whisky deathmatch? I think the only Ardberg I've seen is a 10 year old here in North Carolina.
 
Has anyone had the Ardberg Corryvreckan that Abercrombie has winning his whisky deathmatch? I think the only Ardberg I've seen is a 10 year old here in North Carolina.

Corryvreckan has the smokiness that Ardbeg is known for, but also comes across smoother than say the Uigeadail. I have not tried them side by side, so my impressions of the Uigeadail are from memory. I remember pouring a glass of the Uigeadail and smelling the smokiness from across the room, but I did not have that with the Corryvreckan. Both are excellent whiskeys.
 
Recently spent a few days in Scotland. Loved it.

Didn't have enough time to do any proper whisky tours or anything, but tried to taste as much as I could.

On my way out I stopped at a whisky shop and locked up a 350ml bottle each of a Tomintoul Speyside 16 and a Bowmore Islay 12.

One is promised to a friend. I assume I should give him the 12, right? :) thoughts on these that I bought?

Also, I know little about drinking whisky properly. Any good links?
 
From what I've read online, starting with single malt whiskey is probably a bad idea for a rookie because I probably won't like the peat or smokey taste, and would probably prefer a blended whiskey. Maybe something like Maker's Mark?

And from there, start with mixing it with water? And for my wife, I doubt she'd drink it with just water. Possible to do mixed drinks with whiskey?

"Single malt whisky" refers to whisky from a single distillery. Not all of it is smoky or peaty, in fact the majority isn't peated at all. All whisky is matured in oak barrels, usually ones that have already been used to mature bourbon or sherry, though many kinds have been used - virgin oak, port, various wine casks etc.

Bourbon-cask whiskies are the most common, due to the steady supply from the US, and can run the gamut in taste from extremely light and grassy, to citrus or tropical fruits and nuts, or strong toffee and caramel flavours. Sherry-matured whiskies are typically described in terms of candied fruit, dark chocolate, and Christmas cake.

It's also common these days to mix different batches of whisky from different types of barrels into one release. As long as all the whisky was distilled at one distillery it's still a single malt.

The most common peated whiskies are from Islay, such as Lagavulin, Laphroaig, Ardbeg and so on. Not all Islay whiskies are peated though, and not all peated whiskies are from Islay :)

Blended whiskies are typically softer due to the grain whisky that's used in them. Some like them, some don't, but it's definitely worth checking one or two out to see if you like the general flavour profile.

Makers Mark is a bourbon and would be completely different to anything in the Scotch whisky range.

Personally I'd start out with something that you think sounds good from online reviews. Sherry-matured whiskies like Aberlour or Dalmore are fruity and approachable for a beginner, or something light like the Glenlivet 12 already recommended. I really like the Glenfiddich 15 too. For a beginner Islay I'd suggest the Bowmore 15, I like it much more than the 12, but it sounds like you're not into that :)

I also wouldn't water it down right off the bat. You want to know how it actually tastes, right? Try it at bottle strength first (which with any of the above suggestions has already been watered down by the distillery to a standard strength, usually 40-46% ABV). Add literally a few drops of water at a time and keep tasting. Eventually you'll find the amount that you prefer. It will be different for every individual whisky so don't assume what works for one will work for another.
 
I can't find any pictures but after having so many single malts over the last few years I decided that Oban 14 my favorite. I got a bottle from a good friend after I graduated 2 years ago and it was wonderful. I also feel like (personally) that 15 years is where I stop. I don't have the most refined pallet but there's something that's put me off on anything over 15. Maybe it's just too long in the barrel.
 
I asked this in a different thread, but this is probably more appropriate.. But I've never drank much, and am not really interested in beer due to all the calories and carbs. Whiskey or bourbon has always seemed like more of my thing, so I'd like to know where a good place to start is.

From what I've read online, starting with single malt whiskey is probably a bad idea for a rookie because I probably won't like the peat or smokey taste, and would probably prefer a blended whiskey. Maybe something like Maker's Mark?

And from there, start with mixing it with water? And for my wife, I doubt she'd drink it with just water. Possible to do mixed drinks with whiskey?

I'm not much for blended whiskies but If you are open to the possibility of a single malt: My recommended go-to whisky for beginners is the Glenlivet 12 years old. A very nice single malt that serves well as an introduction to scotch; there's a lot of nosing and tasting to be explored it's rather smooth (definitely not too peaty or smokey) and it's at the bottom of the whisky price range as well.

In regards to water: start without water to see how it tastes, maybe a couple of drops to 'open it up'. Too strong? Add a small splash of water, but don't water it down too much.

Mixing whisky is usually done in cocktails or just with coke, although you're better off mixing, say, Jack Daniels (blend) then a Glenlivet (single) because it breaks my scotch loving heart to see someone mix a fine whisky with coke.

Divius is right, never, EVER, mix the good stuff (single malt) with anything but an ice cube or a few drops of water. The few drops of water is key. It's like letting wine breathe.

Bourbon is pretty much the same. Get Knob Creek, or Baker's to try out. Don't mix that either.
 
Peat 1 - Peat One

So the other thread got locked, and I can't seem to find a new one that's replacing it nor a reason it was locked, so here's Peat 2...

I'm currently sipping through a Full Proof / Cask Strength 'Elements of Islay' CI1, which is the Caol Ila version.

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Funny to see one of those, I ordered a bottle of Lp3 last week and recieved it yesterday. It's a very interesting experience.

And if anyone wants to try blended Japanese Whisky I highly recommend Hibiki 12 yo. It's also bottled in the prettiest whisky bottle I've seen so far. :)
 
can anyone recommend a bourbon for someone very familiar with single malts/scotch in general.

I always sort of sniggered and looked down my nose at bourbon based off general elitist douchebaggery and not really finding jack daniels all that tasty now that I'm older, I've probably been missing out.

a jack and coke I don't find too bad these days actually, but I'd like to explore bourbon a little bit and see if there's anything tasty there.
 
Never be an elitist douchebag, something I learned from cigars. Even cheap €2.50 cigars can be nice.

I'm new to Whisky/Bourbons as well and I'm currently stocking a bottle of Glenfiddich 12 and some Jim Beam White bourbon. I really like the scotch and am still undecided on the bourbon.
 
I only got into Whisky when a Scottish friend introduced me to Laphroaig. I love the smokey taste, and the fact I can stink out a whole room with it at Christmas, must to the dismay of my sisters.

I've got myself 2 bottles of Laphroaig - one Quarter Cask (My favourite), one 10YO and a bottle of Ardbeg 10YO. I find the Ardbeg sweeter less harsh than Laphroaig, but I really like the harshness of it.

All are really drinkable. I'm going to try some of the ones mentioned in this thread. What's Jura like?
I love the Laphroaig Quarter Cask. It's my favorite as well. Laphroaig has this thing where you can sign up for some free membership and they give you a square foot plot of land by the river they use to make the scotch. I want to sign up and go visit it someday.
 
can anyone recommend a bourbon for someone very familiar with single malts/scotch in general.

I always sort of sniggered and looked down my nose at bourbon based off general elitist douchebaggery and not really finding jack daniels all that tasty now that I'm older, I've probably been missing out.

a jack and coke I don't find too bad these days actually, but I'd like to explore bourbon a little bit and see if there's anything tasty there.

I went down a similar path, getting into scotch first, and bourbon only in the past year or two. Bourbon is definitely a sweeter flavour profile than most single malts, which is an adjustment, but there's plenty to enjoy. I quite like Blanton's, Elijah Craig, Knob Creek, and Buffalo Trace. Maker's Mark is also fairly good, if not the most interesting.

I'd love to try George T. Stagg and Pappy Van Winkle, but have yet to do so.
 
I've been naughty today, I cracked opened that Glenmorrangie 12 years old "Nectar d'or" (finished in Sauterne's cask, so silky). Nice touch, a very good one on the sweet side. And now, religiously sipping my Lagavulin 16... Standing as my "go to" single malt for ten years without contest still.
 
What does gaf think is the best bottle for 45-50 bucks for me to buy this weekend? MacAllen 12 year, Highland Park 12 year, or Glenfiddich 10 year?

I'm leaning toward the MacAllen, but its the priciest of the bunch
 
Wonder why the old thread was locked. In any case, I look forward to a new year of trying scotches! I don't drink too much scotch during the Summer but I'll be sure to at least pick up a bottle or so in the coming months.

Drunken wall of shame from the last thread:
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I've been naughty today, I cracked opened that Glenmorrangie 12 years old "Nectar d'or" (finished in Sauterne's cask, so silky). Nice touch, a very good one on the sweet side. And now, religiously sipping my Lagavulin 16... Standing as my "go to" single malt for ten years without contest still.

I finished off my Lagavulin 16 a few months back. My favorite so far and I'd love to buy another but it's so expensive. :(
 
What does gaf think is the best bottle for 45-50 bucks for me to buy this weekend? MacAllen 12 year, Highland Park 12 year, or Glenfiddich 10 year?

I'm leaning toward the MacAllen, but its the priciest of the bunch

My preferences would probably be Macallan > Highland Park > Glenfiddich.
 
What does gaf think is the best bottle for 45-50 bucks for me to buy this weekend? MacAllen 12 year, Highland Park 12 year, or Glenfiddich 10 year?

I'm leaning toward the MacAllen, but its the priciest of the bunch

Highland Park as far as I am concerned. Great balance, much more aromas than the other two. Is it the boxing with the small sample of 18 years old? If yes, even better, the 18 is THE whisky that fits all tastes.
 
So, having just returned from Scotland, I brought back a few small bottles of some single malts.

However, I'm a beginner and have zero taste for whisky in general. Should I pick up a couple of whiskies and/or bourbons to start developing the taste (and to have something to compare to) before I open up my single malts? If so, what are some good starters?
 
We drank a bottle of this at our 'whisky club' last night. Incredible. Almost somewhere between Ardbeg 10 and Lagavulin 12, it's quite salty / briney, hangs around for days and has a good amount of peat. A huge whisky, perhaps the best i've tried.

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Wonder why the old thread was locked. In any case, I look forward to a new year of trying scotches! I don't drink too much scotch during the Summer but I'll be sure to at least pick up a bottle or so in the coming months.

Drunken wall of shame from the last thread:
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I finished off my Lagavulin 16 a few months back. My favorite so far and I'd love to buy another but it's so expensive. :(

Wow, I feel like the majority of all my posts were in that thread!
 
Wonder why the old thread was locked. In any case, I look forward to a new year of trying scotches! I don't drink too much scotch during the Summer but I'll be sure to at least pick up a bottle or so in the coming months.

Drunken wall of shame from the last thread:
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I finished off my Lagavulin 16 a few months back. My favorite so far and I'd love to buy another but it's so expensive. :(

I made a Wall of Shame! My first! Awwww yissssss.

Drinking more Glenfiddich 19 tonight. So good. Very sad that the bottle is only 700ml. Thankfully Father's Day and birthday are just around the corner. I know my wife won't let me down. I'll have at least one bottle of scotch to add to the current bunch:

- Glenfiddich 19
- Balvenie 14 Caribbean Cask
- Aberlour A'bunadh
- Glenfiddich 12 (open only in case of emergency and if all other bottles run dry)
 
Divius is right, never, EVER, mix the good stuff (single malt) with anything but an ice cube or a few drops of water. The few drops of water is key. It's like letting wine breathe.

An ice cube? The colder the whisky, the less you taste. And for something in the 56+ vol% range one could probably also add a little bit more than just a few drops of water.
 
An ice cube? The colder the whisky, the less you taste. And for something in the 56+ vol% range one could probably also add a little bit more than just a few drops of water.
I use the stainless steel ice cubes to cool down the scotch just a bit.


As for water in the higher alcohol content scotches, YMMV basically.
 
An ice cube? The colder the whisky, the less you taste. And for something in the 56+ vol% range one could probably also add a little bit more than just a few drops of water.

Yup. Ice cube is the way to ease into it until you can drink it neat. Should've specified that the ultimate goal is 2-3 drops of water only.
 
With the Ardbeg Almost There, we all decided a small splash of water worked best, really opened up the flavours. God that whisky was good.
 
I posted in the old thread but I dont remember if I got a reply. Anyway, I love craft beer and red wine. I've wanted to get into single malts but haven't been able to hack it.

I bought a bottle of Auchentoshan 18 but didn't dig it. I've also tried Glenlivet 12 or 18 and one of the Johnnie Walkers at bars. No luck.

Anyone ever go from disliking to lovingnthis stuff? It's just very "hard" for me to enjoyably drink.
 
I posted in the old thread but I dont remember if I got a reply. Anyway, I love craft beer and red wine. I've wanted to get into single malts but haven't been able to hack it.
If you like red wine you should try rather fruity whisky, matured in sherry or port casks. For example Aberlour, Balvenie or the (very tasty) Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban.
 
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Accurate as of 2 minutes ago. That's like 3 weeks worth of drinking... and I was away for one of those! Will be pretty sad when the Glendronach is empty :( it's my favourite whisky now - can anyone recommend something similar? Got it from the Whisky Shop on Piccadilly for £50 and it's glorious.

Also had a Talisker the other day (oh it was last night actually) and I SWEAR it tasted like a sea breeze. I'd had a lot to drink though :p
 
Do you guys keep your whisky in the refrigerator? I mean I use ice anyway in hot weather, why not just keep it in the refrigerator?
 
Well, that's the case for everything concerning taste imo.


I would say rather young cask strength scotch (I mean everything well above 54%) loses taste when you don't water it down a bit. Alcohol numbs the tongue (it's a neurotoxin after all).

Poeple that only drink neat or put their nose in the air to the addition of water are just being snobs to be snobs. I bought my brother this book. He described the process of tasting and writing reviews for whiskeys. They start neat and continue to add water opening up more flavors. They end on like a 50/50 water whiskey ratio. It's the only way they can do tasting notes on teh whole range of flavors and sents a whiskey provides.

It's a personal experience. Drink what you like, how you like it. Just don't add coke :P
 
I know its a bourbon, but this thread has made me look at my liquor cabinet and I forgot I had a bottle of Bookers. Going to have a glass on the rocks tonight now and its going to be marvelous.
 
I know its a bourbon, but this thread has made me look at my liquor cabinet and I forgot I had a bottle of Bookers. Going to have a glass on the rocks tonight now and its going to be marvelous.

You and I can rock the Bourbon / Rye in this thread.

If you like cask strength / un-filtered bourbons, I would suggest you look into Buffalo Trace Special Edition Whiskeys. Each year they come out with a new batch. The George T Stagg bourbon is my favorite (needs ice @ about 140 proof), but the Thomas Handy Sazarac Rye is also delicious.
 
Do you guys keep your whisky in the refrigerator? I mean I use ice anyway in hot weather, why not just keep it in the refrigerator?

I prefer to drink my whisky room temp because I feel it loses a lot of flavor when it's cold. Then again, I don't drink much whisky during the summer.
 
Hey guys.

Just turned 21 today. Never really had a drink before besides a hard beverage or half a beer here or there. Always wanted to drink a glass a whiskey at night after work just like my father/grandfather had before me, so now that I can buy my own I wanted to get some input. I would've made a thread about it but I saw this one.

Any suggestions for first time Whiskey drinker? Spirits store right down the block from me so I could go get some tonight to toast my birthday to. Wanted something nice to get me started on.

Not looking to get drunk, just appreciate something new. Don't want to spend a fortune (college student living on his own etc) but I'm willing to spend a bit. I would appreciate any suggestions.
 
It's a personal experience. Drink what you like, how you like it. Just don't add coke :P

Totally agree with this. I'll do a couple of drops of water 95% of the time, the other 5% I might drop an ice cube, as it was said above, sometimes its nice to have a cold dram especially in the summer.
 
You and I can rock the Bourbon / Rye in this thread.

If you like cask strength / un-filtered bourbons, I would suggest you look into Buffalo Trace Special Edition Whiskeys. Each year they come out with a new batch. The George T Stagg bourbon is my favorite (needs ice @ about 140 proof), but the Thomas Handy Sazarac Rye is also delicious.

Is this the unaged white dog they sell? Or do they have others? I love Buffalo Trace.
 
Hey guys.

Just turned 21 today. Never really had a drink before besides a hard beverage or half a beer here or there. Always wanted to drink a glass a whiskey at night after work just like my father/grandfather had before me, so now that I can buy my own I wanted to get some input. I would've made a thread about it but I saw this one.

Any suggestions for first time Whiskey drinker? Spirits store right down the block from me so I could go get some tonight to toast my birthday to. Wanted something nice to get me started on.

Not looking to get drunk, just appreciate something new. Don't want to spend a fortune (college student living on his own etc) but I'm willing to spend a bit. I would appreciate any suggestions.

Glenmorangie Original is a great start.

Glenlivet 12 if they don't have that.

Aberlour 16 is great as well but possibly a bit pricier.
 
I only drink neat to be honest, but I can see something like a young Glenmorangie, Glenlivet or Macallan going well with ice in the summer. I will experiment with water one day and see what happens - should I just buy a bottle of highland spring water and keep it in the fridge?
 
Water opens up some whiskies tremendously. My favorite whisky, the Lagavulin 16, gets so much better with a bit of water.

Will try some out tonight and report back. Appreciate it.

It may take a little while. Learning to drink it will help a lot. Nose it, sip it, and let it linger in your mouth for a bit before you swallow (this will reduce the alcohol burn and let you taste the flavors more). Experiment with adding some water as well, to get it to your liking.

I didn't care for whisky at first...but it really grew on me. I started off with the Glenfiddich 12 with a bunch of ice, and it just tasted terrible to me. It took a while to figure out how I enjoyed drinking it.
 
Almost evey whiskey I've had opens up with the addition of water. That includes both single malts and bourbons. That doesn't mean that they can't be enjoyed neat, because some of them are delicious neat. My Pappy 20 year is amazing neat and my tasmanian single malt (called Lark) is also amazing neat. Even then, it's nice to add a drop here and there to bring out some flavors. My cask strength bourbons are poured over rocks 90% of the time.

Also ... does anyone else here smoke Cigars with their whiskey or is that mostly and American thing to do while sippin' on the bourbon? I love cigars and whiskey. lol
 
Also ... does anyone else here smoke Cigars with their whiskey or is that mostly and American thing to do while sippin' on the bourbon? I love cigars and whiskey. lol
I love smoking cigars with whiskey, but I would say my favorite spirit for pairing with cigars would be port.

Great to see the peat two thread go live! I haven't bought any new bottles recently and also don't drink as much whiskey during the summer. There are so many great options but Lagavulin is probably my all-time favorite, followed by Ardbeg and Talisker.
 
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