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Fantastic cabinet edotherocket. I've been looking one for myself but I can't put down a lot of money knowing I won't be here for more than a couple years and don't want the hassle of relocating a large cabinet. My latest bottle was a Dalwhinnie 15yr. I thought it was smooth, lots of different subtle flavors but not overpowering. Plus I got it on sale so it was a definite win. I had a few whiskey newbies try it as well and they all loved it despite not being use to the alcohol content of whiskey. It might be one of my go to's when introducing whiskey to people.
 
Harry,

You've had a sherry influenced scotch (MaCallan) and smoother one that won't knock you over with its flavors (Glen). I'd say get something smokier (Laphroaig, Ardbeg, Lagavulin, any Islay malt really) and complete the spectrum. Laphroaig 10 year would be your cheapest option. Maybe try some bourbons, ryes are pretty unique in that respect too.
 
arotator said:
Harry,

You've had a sherry influenced scotch (MaCallan) and smoother one that won't knock you over with its flavors (Glen). I'd say get something smokier (Laphroaig, Ardbeg, Lagavulin, any Islay malt really) and complete the spectrum. Laphroaig 10 year would be your cheapest option. Maybe try some bourbons, ryes are pretty unique in that respect too.

Thanks for the advice, I was leaning towards a Highland Park or Laphroaig. I think I'll go with the latter.
 
Harry Potter said:
Thanks for the advice, I was leaning towards a Highland Park or Laphroaig. I think I'll go with the latter.
Laphroaig is a peat heavyweight, I'd suggest something like Bruichladdich 12 as a stepping stone before diving head first into the deep end.
 
Went back to one of my favorites...

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Feels like home :)
 
Harry Potter said:
Thanks for the advice, I was leaning towards a Highland Park or Laphroaig. I think I'll go with the latter.

As you can see I have some Laphroaig 10 on my shelf... its been there for awhile. I'd get something else unless you want to be put off peaty scotch forever.

Highland Park is an excellent intro to smoke, I'd rate it as more woodsy than peaty.
 
ChryZ said:
Laphroaig is a peat heavyweight, I'd suggest something like Bruichladdich 12 as a stepping stone before diving head first into the deep end.
i don't see too much of a problem with a Laphroaig 10 as a stepping stone into peaty whiskies. While it is indeed fairly peaty and smokey it is also pretty light and smooth alcohol wise. You will immediately love or hate it. I know a bunch of guys whose first 'serious' whisky was a Laphroaig and they loved it.

my 2 eurocent
 
S. L. said:
i don't see too much of a problem with a Laphroaig 10 as a stepping stone into peaty whiskies. While it is indeed fairly peaty and smokey it is also pretty light and smooth alcohol wise. You will immediately love or hate it.
So tasting a glass at a bar or so probably isn't a bad idea.

my 2 eurocent
I suggested the Bruichladdich 12 because it's actually light on the peat ;)

Regardless, I have to agree with the tasting at a bar, that's always a nice way to sample without committing to a whole bottle.

Damn it ... all this Laphroaig talk, now I want some. Guess, I'll go for dram.
 
ChryZ said:
I suggested the Bruichladdich 12 because it's actually light on the peat ;)

Regardless, I have to agree with the tasting at a bar, that's always a nice way to sample without committing to a whole bottle.

Damn it ... all this Laphroaig talk, now I want some. Guess, I'll go for dram.
yeah, what i meant is that Laphroig is "easy" as an beginner to drink if you do in fact enjoy the peat and smoke in it. There are plenty that aren't like eg. Longrow.

Anyways just ordered a fresh bottle of Laphroaig together with a bottle of Nikka From The Barrel.
certainly two of the best price-value whiskies out there :)
 
Finally found the Glenfiddich Snow Phoenix!

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After a solid month of searching online and in specialist bottle shops without success, I stopped by a liquor store at a train station on the weekend to pick up some wine for a dinner party and there it was. Came to $95AUS which I thought was pretty reasonable.

I look forward to trying it out soon :)
 
Do things beside taste/nose of the scotch matter to you guys? Do you put any emphasis on color, consistency/"texture", etc?
 
EschatonDX said:
Do things beside taste/nose of the scotch matter to you guys? Do you put any emphasis on color, consistency/"texture", etc?
I'm a big fan of some initial burn, a lingering finish and also the oiliness of non chill filtered spirits.

Color is only interesting if the distillery isn't adding it. No need for E150A, if the whisky is pale so be it.
 
Flo_Evans said:
As you can see I have some Laphroaig 10 on my shelf... its been there for awhile. I'd get something else unless you want to be put off peaty scotch forever.

Highland Park is an excellent intro to smoke, I'd rate it as more woodsy than peaty.
So I ended up going with the Highland Park. Loved it. By far my favorite whiskey yet. Put down half the bottle Saturday night :)
 
man killing a half bottle of any single malt in a night just seems like a waste(unless you're really rich as fuck). I've always felt like good scotch(and the best best bourbon) is something to be enjoyed slowly and deliberately, don't rage on that man. Get some black bottle and cash that instead.
 
TheExodu5 said:
edit: tried the Dalwhinnie. I'm a little disappointed. It's more pleasing than the Glenlivet, but I expected a more complex flavor from a 15 year old scotch. Very smooth, though.
nipping a bit on a Dalwhinnie 15 atm, yeah it's not exactly a revelation - especially if you paid said price. Unremarkable.


DataStream said:
I've fallen of the scotch wagon and want to get back on.

My favs are:

Talisker
Oban
Laphroaig

what else would I like?
a Caol Ila 12 maybe?
It's smokey and peaty, but richer in taste than the Laphroiag. Sort of a middle ground between the talisker and laphroaig (this is a horrible comparison, but just to give you a general idea)

EschatonDX said:
Do things beside taste/nose of the scotch matter to you guys? Do you put any emphasis on color, consistency/"texture", etc?
a little bit - but certainly not purchase influencing, heavy oily texture is nice. And since like sherry cask whisky a lot - super dark is lovely :)
 
S. L. said:
a little bit - but certainly not purchase influencing, heavy oily texture is nice. And since like sherry cask whisky a lot - super dark is lovely :)

What do you think of the Glenmorangie Lasanta?
 
S. L. said:
never had that one (or any glenmorangie for that matter

WOW, that's very surprising. You should really get on that. IMO they're some of the best the highlands has to offer. stunning actually considering how much scotch you buy.
 
EschatonDX said:
WOW, that's very surprising. You should really get on that. IMO they're some of the best the highlands has to offer. stunning actually considering how much scotch you buy.
there is a simple explanation for that:
Bottles i usually buy Japanese ones, samples i buy everything trough the bank but preferably single cask stuff and single cask glenmorangie is pretty rare - but i'll look out for a glenmo sample next time i order some :)
 
DataStream said:
I've fallen of the scotch wagon and want to get back on.

My favs are:

Talisker
Oban
Laphroaig

what else would I like?

You should absolutely get a Lagavulin 16yr old if you like Talisker and Laphroaig.
 
Harry Potter said:
So I ended up going with the Highland Park. Loved it. By far my favorite whiskey yet. Put down half the bottle Saturday night :)

I wouldn't make a habit of doing half a bottle every time you get something new, I mean at what point do you stop appreciating the nuances of the drink? That said, it's your bottle and you can do whatever the hell you want with it.

Back to the Laphroaig, I had a friend just getting into Scotch. He had maybe 2-3 drams and asked for recommendations at a bar. Told him to get Laphroaig Quarter Cask to have something completely different. He didn't enjoy it, it was too intense. Well, we're about 3-4 months into his whisky excursion now and it is his favorite whisky ;). It isn't for everyone, it may be too intense for a noobie, but if you're like me and just want to try something with lots of flavor you'll be like "holy crap, I had no idea alcohol could taste like this!" I loved it and it was the 3rd single malt I had ever had.
 
S. L. said:
there is a simple explanation for that:
Bottles i usually buy Japanese ones, samples i buy everything trough the bank but preferably single cask stuff and single cask glenmorangie is pretty rare - but i'll look out for a glenmo sample next time i order some :)

I figured I'd ask...how would you describe the of the Yoichi 10? So far, this has easily been my favorite whisky. The Glenfiddich, Glenlivet, and Dalwhinnie are all too similar, and have too much, I don't know, ethanol taste? They all seem to have exactly the same honey sweetness as well. The Dalwhinnie differentiates itself a bit by being a smoother drink...maybe with a bit of vanilla mixed in? The Yoichi 10 was strong and had a very powerful mouthfeel to it, but you couldn't detect any ethanol flavor in it at all. It had this taste of old leather, but was quite sweet on the nose. I really can't describe it well myself, but it felt very complex and interesting to me.

A friend at work just went to a tasting night yesterday, and he tried the Yoichi. He said it was neither peaty, nor smokey. I figured the taste of old leather would have kind of described one of those, but apparently not. I'm just curious as to how that flavor would be described.

Also, since I liked the Yoichi so much, would you have any other recommendations?

arotator said:
I wouldn't make a habit of doing half a bottle every time you get something new, I mean at what point do you stop appreciating the nuances of the drink? That said, it's your bottle and you can do whatever the hell you want with it.

Back to the Laphroaig, I had a friend just getting into Scotch. He had maybe 2-3 drams and asked for recommendations at a bar. Told him to get Laphroaig Quarter Cask to have something completely different. He didn't enjoy it, it was too intense. Well, we're about 3-4 months into his whisky excursion now and it is his favorite whisky ;). It isn't for everyone, it may be too intense for a noobie, but if you're like me and just want to try something with lots of flavor you'll be like "holy crap, I had no idea alcohol could taste like this!" I loved it and it was the 3rd single malt I had ever had.

That's how I treat my beer drinking, and it's how I will treat my scotch drinking as well. I want lots of variety. Honestly, I didn't like the Yoichi 10 at all at first...it felt pungent and medicinal. But I started appreciating the nose (best whisky I've smelled, by far), and it just kept me coming back for more. I really like it now. That was only after having gone through 170ml of it.

It's a shame it's so expensive. $110 for a 750ml bottle. Yikes.
 
TheExodu5 said:
I figured I'd ask...how would you describe the of the Yoichi 10? So far, this has easily been my favorite whisky. The Glenfiddich, Glenlivet, and Dalwhinnie are all too similar, and have too much, I don't know, ethanol taste? They all seem to have exactly the same honey sweetness as well. The Dalwhinnie differentiates itself a bit by being a smoother drink...maybe with a bit of vanilla mixed in? The Yoichi 10 was strong and had a very powerful mouthfeel to it, but you couldn't detect any ethanol flavor in it at all. It had this taste of old leather, but was quite sweet on the nose. I really can't describe it well myself, but it felt very complex and interesting to me.

A friend at work just went to a tasting night yesterday, and he tried the Yoichi. He said it was neither peaty, nor smokey. I figured the taste of old leather would have kind of described one of those, but apparently not. I'm just curious as to how that flavor would be described.

Also, since I liked the Yoichi so much, would you have any other recommendations?
i don't have any tasting notes of the yoichi 10 (fairly sure i had a glass of it thou lol)
i did some for the yoichi 12 70th anniversary which is more or less the 12yo at cask strength - tendencies should be similar to the 10yo
nose: very slight red berries, peat, old wood, a bit of heavy malt sweetness
taste: peat, peppery, oak, vanilla, slightly medical
finish: old wooden planks, vanilla, warming, peat, smoke, a bit herbal, slight bitterness at the very end


there is definitly peatyness in there, thou not in your face like laphroiag, more Higlandpark ish

if you liked that subtle but heavy sweetness in there you could try going for a Lagavulun 12yo (not so sure about price and availability) or maybe a Caol Ila Distillers Edition
both have a bit more peat and smoke thou. The standard versions of those (Caol Ila 12yo, Lagavulin 16yo) are great too, but less sweet, more peaty smoke and maybe a tad sharper (not alcoholic - dunno hard to describe, less sweet i guess) and also cheaper ;)
 
Anyone know what the deal with the Aberlour 18 year is (re-released just this year)? I just asked my local shop, they said they can't get it in. I've looked online and only seen it in the UK from import stores. I don't want to import it (too much $). Has anyone seen it in the States?
 
arotator said:
I'd second the Lagavulin 16.

I third the shit out of it.

Got some Laphroig Quarter Cask, which is 48% and a real headsmasher. With a touch of water though, it's really quite nice. I do have a litre of it, which is a lot for such a drink. Oh duty free, they only charged me the normal Laphroig price, too.

But yeah, if in LA, Laphroig is $32. Do it.
 
Sanskrit said:
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Ah, Swedish pride.

I just picked up some Mackmyra over the weekend too. I got the 'Special 01'.

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Tried a wee dram last night and loved it. Lovely sweet vanilla aroma and the taste is a great blend of spicey fruit and with a hint of smoke which gives it some bite.

Its a nice story that eight Swedish buddies got together in 99 and started this distillery together :)
 
So I had a Glenfiddich nosing&tasting yesterday, and it was pretty interesting. We had the 12/15/18/21/30 year old whisky's, of which the 30 was without a doubt the most pleasant and complex tasting (and of course also the most expensive one). The 21 was fantastic, and I was already pretty familiar with the 15 and especially the 12. The 18 was my least favorite of the bunch.

We also got to taste a 14 year old (rich oak) which I had never heard of, and we got to sample an 'upcoming whisky', meaning what we got was 7 years old and therefore not yet a whisky (it's only called a whisky if it's at least 12 years old) and it was 62%, but the taste was quite nice.
 
Augemitbutter said:
three years is already a full-fledged whisky in the EU :)
They age them only slightly longer in Tasmania, Australia; they are matured in much smaller casks though, which apparently makes a difference as there is more interaction with the wood. Does that sound right?
 
I must be some kind of Whisky heathen. No matter what Whisky I buy, I keep coming back to plain old Canadian Club at ¥980($12 US) a bottle. I just enjoy the taste far more than anything else I have tried. I have come to the conclusion that I drink what I enjoy not what I think I should enjoy.
Next up is a limited edition Canadian Club. My body is ready.

There is a liquor store in my town that is a Whisky fans dream. They have so many varieties it makes my head hurt. I have also never seen alcohol so cheap. Coming from Australia where I consider alcohol to be quite expensive, Japan is an alcoholics dream.
 
btw you can currently buy the Ardbeg Alligator Committee Release (ultra collectabel) on ardbeg.com; that is if you can get trough the checkout process as it is totally overloaded.
 
After the recent tasting I was inspired to buy some Glenfiddich. I was tempted to pick up a 21, but it's a bit out of my pricerange.

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+ I got a 10% discount
 
the first of my two Ardbeg Alligator Committe Release bottles arrived :D
(accidentally ordered two as the shop was getting HAMMERED) - guess i'll look into selling the second bottle

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S. L. said:
the first of my two Ardbeg Alligator Committe Release bottles arrived :D
(accidentally ordered two as the shop was getting HAMMERED) - guess i'll look into selling the second bottle

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Awesome! Was it expensive?
They didn't ship to Holland I read so I didn't even bother hehe.
 
S. L. said:
around 75€ with shipping

Let us know how it tasted! I'm hoping they will sell it in Holland too. We seem to have these Ardbeg Committee Embassies too in Holland.
So who knows.
 
well no Alligator impressions for now but some of the private bottled Caol Ila 27yo
single cask at 56.5% vol (and at a great price 55€ shipped!)

some initial impressions:

Nose: Peat, moderate smoke, older wood, slightly sweet - sounds simple but is really great, lots of sniffing to be done!
Taste: malty and honey
finish: a bit smoke and peat, sweetish, herbs

this one needs a lot of time in the glass to breath for its flavors to come out. ~15min - But then its really great, especially the nose is very nice and the overall slight sweetness.
 
S. L. said:
the first of my two Ardbeg Alligator Committe Release bottles arrived :D
(accidentally ordered two as the shop was getting HAMMERED) - guess i'll look into selling the second bottle

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So jealous.. I tried ordering a bottle, but they don't ship to the US!!!
 
Sumidor said:
So jealous.. I tried ordering a bottle, but they don't ship to the US!!!
you should try looking/asking around in whisky/liquor stores - according to the ardbeg twitter you guys got 1000 bottles over there:
US (1,000) - Various retailers for $99.99 plus tax.
 
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