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What would you guys say is the best cheap brand? With cheap I mean Jack, Johnny Walker Chivas, stuff that is well known and easy to get your hands on. Thanks in advance.

Co worker said Jameson and Dimple, you guys agree?

"Cheap" is always relative with liquor. If I'm spending $60 on a special Balvenie, the $40 bottle seems inexpensive. You might want to try a "cask strength" bottle, as you'll be watering it down. I suggest blended scotches if you're looking to save money. JWB and Famous Grouse are fine. Jameson is an Irish whisky, slightly different. For that, you could try Bushmills, too. I've never tried Dimple; cool bottle, though.
 
Hello thread. I have recently started drinking scotch. Actually I have recent started drinking alcohol in general but have found most drinks pretty boring until I tried scotch. I'm looking for some suggestions of stuff to try. Here's what I've had so far in order of how much I liked it.


I've tried a few others but I couldn't find pics. I ended up trying scotch because this thread described it as "drinking a campfire." It turns out that that is a very apt description in regards to the Lagavulin. The complexity and subtlety to the flavor really interests me. The Balvenie 14 is my go to so far because I really enjoy the flavor but it's in a reasonable price range for me. I'd be interested to see what Scotch GAF thinks of my choices so far.
I loved the Aberlour Abunad'h.

Definitely unique, and quite the intense experience to drink.
 
I don't think those are single malts.

Oh, well any good inexpensive single malt recommendations then?

"Cheap" is always relative with liquor. If I'm spending $60 on a special Balvenie, the $40 bottle seems inexpensive. You might want to try a "cask strength" bottle, as you'll be watering it down. I suggest blended scotches if you're looking to save money. JWB and Famous Grouse are fine. Jameson is an Irish whisky, slightly different. For that, you could try Bushmills, too. I've never tried Dimple; cool bottle, though.

Thanks!
 
I haven't bought any whiskey for myself in a long, long time. There's the odd party bottle that has little aesthetic enjoyment value, but otherwise I'm dry.

I do wish I had the money to get a bottle of Ardbeg Mammoth though. That beverage sounds epic.
 
Old Crow Reserve

I don't know if it's single malt or whatever...

But, $13.99 for 750 mL of mixable 86 proof whisky is a good deal.
 
What are you looking for? Single malts to sip on or just whiskey to mix and drink? Old Crow is not a single malt, and is only good for mixing and when you're really drunk, shots.

Well for the sake of not derailing the thread we can narrow it down to single malts(non-peaty). And hell no I don't plan on putting any sugary crap in my delicious whiskey. I already feel like a pussy for watering it down with ice ;)

I'm just looking for something to relax after a hard days work. Stopped with that other relaxing stuff so I need an alternative.

Think the next one I'll try (got me a bottle of Jamison yesterday) will be the Glenlivet, from what I read it seems to be exactly the kind of whiskey I'm looking for.
 
Well for the sake of not derailing the thread we can narrow it down to single malts(non-peaty). And hell no I don't plan on putting any sugary crap in my delicious whiskey. I already feel like a pussy for watering it down with ice ;)

I'm just looking for something to relax after a hard days work. Stopped with that other relaxing stuff so I need an alternative.

Think the next one I'll try (got me a bottle of Jamison yesterday) will be the Glenlivet, from what I read it seems to be exactly the kind of whiskey I'm looking for.

Want it cold but not watered down?

Stainless steel ice cubes do the trick
 
Seems interesting. I have the Whisky stones and although they do work, I find they add an extra "dry" taste to the scotch. It's subtle but definitely noticeable. I'd love to hear some first hand experiences with these aluminum ones.
I just got them at Christmas and use them every time I drink scotch. one cube in the bottom of a Glencairn glass, cover with scotch. perfect temp, no change in flavor.
 
A few nights ago I finally nipped into the sample miniature bottle of Ardbeg Uigeidial that I picked up some weeks back. I've been intrigued about it for a while as I'd been curious to try another of the notorious "peat monsters" outside of the Caol Ila in my collection, and I liked the sound of the sherry finish to Ugie imparting some sweetness onto it. A while back I also picked up a small notebook that I'm using to start constructing my own tasting notes, something that I'm still completely an amateur at, but I thought it would be a good way to help me practice identifying different details within each glass and help me to compare and pick out favorites.

I doubt I'm the only one who experiences this, but I find myself pulling much more out of the nose of a whisky than the actual taste of it, especially when it comes to identifying individual components. In the case of the Ugie, the peat started to hit me immediately after I unscrewed the cap, with the bottle being a solid two or three feet away! Really intriguing stuff, and I got way more out of this in my notes than I expected to at my experience level. Here's some of what I got:

Nose: Peat (duh), smoke, salty/maritime notes, some sort of dry grain (this with the saltiness reminded me of matzo), rubber (like what you'd find in shoe sole inserts, oddly not as off-putting as I would have expected); Over time the sherry/toffee notes start to come out and the early peat punch begins to take a back seat, dried spiced fruits (I wrote dried apricot, which is odd considering I don't think I've ever had dried apricot...); after adding water, hints of dark or bittersweet chocolate, and custard. By the end of the glass, the initial peat and smoke was barely if at all present.
Palette: First impression, a really rich mouthcoat! I tend to take pretty small sips and with this that small amount seemed to really coat my tongue all the way up to the roof of the mouth; Dry flavor at first, and smoky, with a tangy hint of fruit (I imagine that this tastes a bit like what a good cigar would); water seemed to refocus onto the dryness a bit, but the mouthfeel remained.
Finish: Didn't believe it to be overly strong at first, but there was a very weak sense of smoke and dark chocolate, perhaps a bit of citrus; adding water seems to bring a bit more heat to the feel, and draws out the overall length of the finish, with a slight lingering warmth in the back of the throat.

Overall like I mentioned earlier, the first word that came to mind for me was "intriguing." This whisky probably evolves more dramatically with time than any other I've dried so far, opening with the familiar peaty punch of Caol Ila mixed with the more obtuse scents, but eventually rounding out into a wonderfully balanced and rich dram. Not the sort of thing I'd want to drink super-often, but it had a way of arresting my attention for the night and I'll definitely keep an eye out for a full bottle some time down the road.
 
Nikka Pure Malt Black

Wow.

This is fantastic stuff. Peat. Sherry. Salt water. Fruit. Slight floral notes. This is really well balanced and fantastic stuff. Super complex but really enjoyable as it doesn't go overboard in any one area. It does drown very easily in water, though. One of the few whiskies I have that I think I wouldn't add any water to, or not much water.

The Nikka Pure Malt 17 was one of my favorite whiskies (and I'm sad I can't get it here). This is a very different whisky, but equally good.
 
I definitely recommend the Nikka Pure Malt Black if you want a taste of what Japan has to offer. It's not a single malt, but it ranks up there with some of the best, IMO. It has possibly the best nose on any whisky I've tried to date. It's only downfall is the short finish, but that's not too big of a knock against it.
 
Had a Glenlivet signature tasting yesterday. 3rd time going to a tasting + I've seen some documentaries so by now I know how whisky is made, so that 30 minute intro is quite boring. So I was glad when we finally got to the nosing/tasting part!

We had the 12yo, 15yo, Nadurra, 18yo, 21yo and finally a 25 year old. I was already familiar with the 12, 15 and 18, but the rest was new.

The Nadurra is a non chill filtered cask strength whisky (which results in a higher alcohol percentage, the one we tasted was 54,4%, it differs every batch) but despite its slight burn (which you typically get from any high percentage drink) it was surprisingly fresh with a long, smooth finish. The nose had a lot of vanilla with hints of green apple. Great scotch, if you have the chance to try this, please do. I think it appeals to people who prefer peaty whiskies as well.

Since there were more tasting-sets prepared than that there were people, there were quite a few drams left at the end, so those who stuck around could get some extra. I grabbed some more 25yo's* and we got an extra dram of nadurra. 'Twas a good night.

*bottle sells for €225, so I wont get a chance to drink that again any time soon.
 
What would you guys say is the best cheap brand? With cheap I mean Jack, Johnny Walker Chivas, stuff that is well known and easy to get your hands on. Thanks in advance.

Co worker said Jameson and Dimple, you guys agree?

Not single malt but I've heard great things about Monkey Shoulder. I plan on picking some up in the next day or so.
 
Hey guys, I'm heading to Japan in a few weeks and will be looking to pick up a bottle or two that seem to be near-impossible to find here in the US. Any recommendations? First, I'm going to a good whiskey bar to sample some stuff, and then I'll determine which to buy based on what I like the most. Here's what I have on my list so far:

Nikka Yoichi 15 year (really anything from Nikka distillery)
Hibiki 17 year and up
 
I definitely recommend the Nikka Pure Malt Black if you want a taste of what Japan has to offer. It's not a single malt, but it ranks up there with some of the best, IMO. It has possibly the best nose on any whisky I've tried to date. It's only downfall is the short finish, but that's not too big of a knock against it.
Have you had the yoichi 15 year? This pure malt black sounds good to me, I've been drinking a lot of single malt recently but enjoy blendeds all the same...I'll add this to the list!
 
Have you had the yoichi 15 year? This pure malt black sounds good to me, I've been drinking a lot of single malt recently but enjoy blendeds all the same...I'll add this to the list!

No, I haven't had it, but the Yoichi 10 was the first single malt that made me love whisky. It had fairly similar qualities to it, IIRC. It's been a while.

I highly recommend the older Nikka Pure Malts. I've had the 17 which a friend brought back from Japan and it was fantastic. There's a 25 as well. I don't think you can get either in the US. The Yamazaki 25 is probably the most famous whisky that you likely can't buy in the US. Never had it, myself.
 
No, I haven't had it, but the Yoichi 10 was the first single malt that made me love whisky. It had fairly similar qualities to it, IIRC. It's been a while.

I highly recommend the older Nikka Pure Malts. I've had the 17 which a friend brought back from Japan and it was fantastic. There's a 25 as well. I don't think you can get either in the US. The Yamazaki 25 is probably the most famous whisky that you likely can't buy in the US. Never had it, myself.
Thanks for the info, it sounds like Nikka in general is one of the top distilleries to try, so I'll aim to have a good sampling of as much as I can. I'd be up for spending somewhere in the range of 15,000 to 20,000 yen on a bottle, so I wonder if the older-aged stuff will fit in my price range.
 
There's an ABC Store in downtown Raleigh (in Cameron Village for those of you in the area) with a pretty solid selection of single malts. I picked up a Balvenie 14 Caribbean Cask there today. This is finished in casks that previously distilled rum. Very nice flavor, but it's definitely on the "lighter" side.

I decided on this vs. a Lagavulin mostly because 1, the Balvenie was $30 cheaper and 2, I can get the Lagavulin at a store closer to me.

My favorite scotch of the moment remains the Aberlour 16. I was bummed that the store didn't have the A'bunadh. I really want to try that.

Edit: Having a dram of Oban 14 tonight and damn, the Aberlour 16 has simply made everything else taste worse than it did before I had the Aberlour.
 
So in the past couple of weeks, I've bought A LOT of bottles of scotch. I guess its a mix of being bored, lots of time to myself to study and relax...oh and its awesome.

Glenfiddich 15 Solera
Aberlour 12
Highland Park 12
Macallan 12
Johnnie Walker Gold Label Reserve
Grand Marnier Louis Alexandre (cognac)

Honestly I dont really know how best to start describing them...

Solera: spicy, smoke, honey, sweet.
Highland Park 12: monstrous presence. Real wood smoke, little peat. almost feels like having a cigar.
Macallan 12: a lot of sherry...
Aberlour 12: sweet, a little smoke, fruity. really nice and easy.
Gold Label: more peat, really good actually. Sweet taste.
Grand marnier louis alexandre: incredible. Instead of the regular grand marnier that is an orange liqueur, this is legit cognac with orange bitters. Amazing.

Essentially they are all good. I'm no expert at this whole description thing, I just go by what is easy to drink, distinctive, and I also want something with a lot of smoke. I guess the test is: which bottle would I buy again. That would be the Solera, the Aberlour 12 and Highland Park 12 for sure.
 
^ I would strongly recommend trying an Aberlour 16 as well.

At this point it's my favorite scotch. I can't imagine not having a bottle of it in my house. I so badly want to try an A'bunadh but nowhere around here carries it. Will likely need to place an internet order for it.
 
^ I would strongly recommend trying an Aberlour 16 as well.

At this point it's my favorite scotch. I can't imagine not having a bottle of it in my house. I so badly want to try an A'bunadh but nowhere around here carries it. Will likely need to place an internet order for it.

Definitely, the aberlour 16 is crazy. It's essentially everything good about the younger variations just way more intense. We had a bottle a few months ago at my buddy's bachelor party...bottle was gone fairly quickly :)
 
Definitely, the aberlour 16 is crazy. It's essentially everything good about the younger variations just way more intense. We had a bottle a few months ago at my buddy's bachelor party...bottle was gone fairly quickly :)

It's literally ruined other whiskies for me. I had the Oban 14 the other night and I was like "meh."
 
Hi whiskey-gaf,

I'm relatively new to the world of single malt and I hope you guys can give me some recommendations. So far I have tasted Glenmorangie 10y, Glenlivet 12y and Glenfiddich 12y. I like the Glenmorangie the most because I love the vanilla tastes, the mildness and the honeylike sweetness of it. The other two are fine as well but I don't consider buying one of the other as I'm like the Glenmorangie so much.

I am looking for something that is taste- and price-wise in the same area as the Glenmorangie 10y (maybe a bit richer in terms of taste). So far I consider to buy a bottle of Balvenie Double Wood, Dalwhinnie 15y or Bruichladdich 10y "the laddie".

Are those three likely to fit my taste? Or can you guys recommend me something else?

I hope to get a few suggestions and thanks in advance.
 
There's an ABC Store in downtown Raleigh (in Cameron Village for those of you in the area) with a pretty solid selection of single malts. I picked up a Balvenie 14 Caribbean Cask there today. This is finished in casks that previously distilled rum. Very nice flavor, but it's definitely on the "lighter" side.

I decided on this vs. a Lagavulin mostly because 1, the Balvenie was $30 cheaper and 2, I can get the Lagavulin at a store closer to me.

My favorite scotch of the moment remains the Aberlour 16. I was bummed that the store didn't have the A'bunadh. I really want to try that.

Edit: Having a dram of Oban 14 tonight and damn, the Aberlour 16 has simply made everything else taste worse than it did before I had the Aberlour.
Great choice. Balvenie Caribbean Cask is one of my go to scotches when I don't feel like trying something new. It's one of the few scotches I still like since discovering Laphroaig Quarter Cask. That and Lagavulin have spoiled me.
 
Hi whiskey-gaf,

I'm relatively new to the world of single malt and I hope you guys can give me some recommendations. So far I have tasted Glenmorangie 10y, Glenlivet 12y and Glenfiddich 12y. I like the Glenmorangie the most because I love the vanilla tastes, the mildness and the honeylike sweetness of it. The other two are fine as well but I don't consider buying one of the other as I'm like the Glenmorangie so much.

I am looking for something that is taste- and price-wise in the same area as the Glenmorangie 10y (maybe a bit richer in terms of taste). So far I consider to buy a bottle of Balvenie Double Wood, Dalwhinnie 15y or Bruichladdich 10y "the laddie".

Are those three likely to fit my taste? Or can you guys recommend me something else?

I hope to get a few suggestions and thanks in advance.

Aberlour 16. It's $65 here in North Carolina. It's my favorite scotch at the moment, and I've had all of those you mention above. By the way, Glenmorangie Extremely Rare (I believe it's an 18 yo) is about $100 and is very good as well, and the Glenvlivet 15 and 18 are both better than the 12.

I have literally stopped drinking Glenfiddich. I have a bottle of 12 in my cabinet that looks at me mournfully every time I reach past it for something better. It was a nice opening scotch, but I've moved well beyond it at this point.
 
I know this is going to sound like a travesty, but if you have a scotch you're not looking to drink at all, try mixing it with 1/4 part of real maple syrup. I do this with young whisky and it makes for a delicious dessert.
 
Aberlour 16. It's $65 here in North Carolina. It's my favorite scotch at the moment, and I've had all of those you mention above. By the way, Glenmorangie Extremely Rare (I believe it's an 18 yo) is about $100 and is very good as well, and the Glenvlivet 15 and 18 are both better than the 12.

I have literally stopped drinking Glenfiddich. I have a bottle of 12 in my cabinet that looks at me mournfully every time I reach past it for something better. It was a nice opening scotch, but I've moved well beyond it at this point.

Thanks for the advice. How is the taste of the Abelour 16 compared to the Glenmorangie? And can you say something on the Balvenie and the Dhalwinnie? Did you like them at all?

I am a bit afraid of spening 55€ (here in Germany) for a bottle of whiskey I never tasted ...
 
From what I can recall, Aberlour has some of the qualities of the Glenmorangie, but is a bit more earthy. It definitely has a lot more complexity to it. I only had a small dram of it though, so my memory is a bit hazy.

The Dalwhinnie is probably the smoothest scotch I've ever drank. If you're a fan of vanilla you'll really like this one. It's a very delicate whisky though, and I feel it's a bit lacking in complexity compared to other whiskies in the price range. Still, this would be one of the best whiskies for introducing someone to the world of scotch.
 
I feel like now i'm about 5 years into my whisky drinking I should go back to the Highland Park 12 to see how I like it, as it was the first I really liked.
 
The first whisky I really liked was the Nikka Yoichi 10. Sadly the LCBO no longer stocks it. :(

I'm a bit weird in my whisky tastes in that the Glenlivet 12 and Glenfiddich 12 really didn't do anything for me. I'm not as much a fan of the fruity whiskies. Vanilla, smoke, earth, peat, salt, wood, leather...these are attributes that draw me to a whisky.

My ideal whisky is a bit woody, with a touch of smoke/peat, and with a mild swetness to round it out. So far my highlights are the Lagavulin 16, Nikka Pure Malt Black, and Nikka Pure Malt 17.
 
Hi whiskey-gaf,

I'm relatively new to the world of single malt and I hope you guys can give me some recommendations. So far I have tasted Glenmorangie 10y, Glenlivet 12y and Glenfiddich 12y. I like the Glenmorangie the most because I love the vanilla tastes, the mildness and the honeylike sweetness of it. The other two are fine as well but I don't consider buying one of the other as I'm like the Glenmorangie so much.

I am looking for something that is taste- and price-wise in the same area as the Glenmorangie 10y (maybe a bit richer in terms of taste). So far I consider to buy a bottle of Balvenie Double Wood, Dalwhinnie 15y or Bruichladdich 10y "the laddie".

Are those three likely to fit my taste? Or can you guys recommend me something else?

I hope to get a few suggestions and thanks in advance.
Both the Balvenie and Dahlwinnie are great whiskies and solid choices. The Dahlwinnie is very smooth and has a lot of sweet vanilla. The Balvenie has a bit more character and more 'bite'. (although it's been a long time since I had Balvenie)

Also just a small note:
- Whiskey = Irish
- Whisky = Scottish
 
From what I can recall, Aberlour has some of the qualities of the Glenmorangie, but is a bit more earthy. It definitely has a lot more complexity to it. I only had a small dram of it though, so my memory is a bit hazy.

The Dalwhinnie is probably the smoothest scotch I've ever drank. If you're a fan of vanilla you'll really like this one. It's a very delicate whisky though, and I feel it's a bit lacking in complexity compared to other whiskies in the price range. Still, this would be one of the best whiskies for introducing someone to the world of scotch.

Alright, thanks for the recommendations so far. I have to take a closer look at the prices around here and see what I can get... Still I'm not sure what I will buy. I think I'll decide sponatously ^^

I'm still thankful for further recommendations on this topic.

Edit:

Both the Balvenie and Dahlwinnie are great whiskies and solid choices. The Dahlwinnie is very smooth and has a lot of sweet vanilla. The Balvenie has a bit more character and more 'bite'. (although it's been a long time since I had Balvenie)

Also just a small note:
- Whiskey = Irish
- Whisky = Scottish

Thanks for your thoughts on the whiskies, ... and for the semantic clarification ;)
 
I know it isn't a single-malt, but I just tried some Basil Hayden last night and I was really turned off by the sickly sweet aroma, which probably doomed me to really hating the taste. I've been told that Basil Hayden is pretty smooth/easy for whiskey beginners, too. Is it possible that scotch would be more up my alley than bourbon, or is the level of disgust I had mean I'm probably going to just not like any whiskey whatsoever?

The only counterpoint is that I had what I think was a whiskey a long time ago that was ridiculously smokey, and enjoying it. I have no idea what it was, though.
 
My wife picked me up an Aberlour 16. It's definitely got honey on the tongue that reminds me of the Glenlivet but then it packs that barley whollop with a toasty finish (not quite a burn) that makes it distinct.

Me likey.

My comments on first tasting the Aberlour, from earlier in the thread. I really like that it has that smooth Glenmorangie/Glenlivet start on the tongue, and then going down it has a toastiness that suggests smoke but doesn't burn like the younger scotches.
 
From what I can recall, Aberlour has some of the qualities of the Glenmorangie, but is a bit more earthy. It definitely has a lot more complexity to it. I only had a small dram of it though, so my memory is a bit hazy.

The Dalwhinnie is probably the smoothest scotch I've ever drank. If you're a fan of vanilla you'll really like this one. It's a very delicate whisky though, and I feel it's a bit lacking in complexity compared to other whiskies in the price range. Still, this would be one of the best whiskies for introducing someone to the world of scotch.
I tried a glass of Dalwhinnie 15 after drinking a glass of Laphroaig Quarter Cask and I could barely taste anything. I obviously should try them in reverse order next time.
 
I have only in the last 6 or so months gotten into Single Malts...

I used to be ignorant to the point of not realising that the terrible blends like Bells or Teachers are not remotely the same experience as a good malt. I had never tried a proper single malt, and as a result tarred all whisky with the same brush after a few bad experiences... I really hated Jack Daniels... and still do.

I recently finished off my first bottle of Bruichladdich, The Laddie Classic, which was really nice. I think I'll be buying another sometime when I can afford it.

I got a bottle of The Glenlivet 12 Yr from my Dad as a moving in present for my new apartment recently, so I will be enjoying that.

I'm trying to try as many as I can, to see what I like. So far, I'm a real fan of the Peatier whiskies like Laphroiag, and Springbank.
 
did a tasting at a friend's place last night, worked our way through 6 bottles and ended with highland park 21 - very very good dram, one of the finest i've had. good amount of peat and a great finish. easily best of the night.

dalmore 18 surprisingly was up the challenge and also quite good.

big loser on the evening was macallan select oak (green). no real depth and not worth the price.
 
did a tasting at a friend's place last night, worked our way through 6 bottles and ended with highland park 21 - very very good dram, one of the finest i've had. good amount of peat and a great finish. easily best of the night.

dalmore 18 surprisingly was up the challenge and also quite good.

big loser on the evening was macallan select oak (green). no real depth and not worth the price.
I'd be interested in what the other three bottles were and your take on them as well.
 
I'd be interested in what the other three bottles were and your take on them as well.

started off with a jura superstition, pretty smooth taste and finish, not harsh at all. a nice easy one to start with.

went to tomintoul 16 next which probably won for best bang for the buck, though to me it didnt really have a lot of what i'd want in a 16 y/o drink. not as creamy as the jura but the nose was a bit livelier and again a relatively smooth finish. some bitter notes at the end.

last one we tried after the single malts was the JW platinum blend just to see how it stacked up. fairly decent to be honest for a blend, though not worth the hefty price tag. probably lands under the blue, which i havent had in a while. maybe tonight to kick off the baseball season.
 
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