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Skull & Bones' ship boarding vs Black Flag's
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Cyberpunkd
Member
Can't have fillers like ship combat if it detracts from loot and potentially selling you MTX to boost said loot.
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Bond007
Member
The way i see it. One game focuses on NAVAL BATTLES.
The other focuses on COMBAT.
Two games born of the same mother but with different goals.
I understand it's a pirate game- but not all pirate games need to do the same thing. Bones just so happens to focus on Boat shit. Black flag still looks incredible thats for sure.
If you did all that AC boarding in Bones you would be a sitting duck. Bones offers a way to quickly "board" and loot and get back on the seas - You know, the whole point of this game.
The other focuses on COMBAT.
Two games born of the same mother but with different goals.
I understand it's a pirate game- but not all pirate games need to do the same thing. Bones just so happens to focus on Boat shit. Black flag still looks incredible thats for sure.
If you did all that AC boarding in Bones you would be a sitting duck. Bones offers a way to quickly "board" and loot and get back on the seas - You know, the whole point of this game.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Holy fuck man I forgot how atmospheric Black Flag is.
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£10.99 at the moment, might have to replay it. Really cool game.
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£10.99 at the moment, might have to replay it. Really cool game.
King Dazzar
Member
It is, but ultimately I remember it does get to feel shallow and almost arcadey after a while. I'd love to have ship combat that actually uses proper wind directional physics movement. In short, something with a lot more depth, but as easily accessible would be great. Imagine having ships that dont move around like self propelled speedboats.Holy fuck man I forgot how atmospheric Black Flag is.
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MrRibeye
Member
That would be AMAZING so much fun imagine a 3rd player finding you guys in that situation quarreling. Suddenly foe is friend. It's THE reason why people loved the Dark Zone in the Division 1.
ManaByte
Gold Member
You literally just described Sea of Thieves.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Can’t have gameplay getting in the way of collecting shit to upgrade shit so you can collect more shit to upgrade shit so you collect more shit…
The Cockatrice
Member
Black Flag's water physics and ship combat was fucking insane at the time. Music was awesome as well. Fuck Skull and Bones, fuck Ubisoft.
If only there were some clear, defining difference between the two games. . .
Also the below.
Also the below.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Which is a shame because they advertised it as a pirate game. Pirates are people, not ships.
Stuart360
Member
Although i agree with the OP, this is the whole Starfield vs NMS/Star Citizen nonsense again.
Just because those games were all set in space, it doesnt mean they are trying to do the same thing. And likewise just because these 2 games are pirate games, it doesnt mean they are trying to do exactly the same thing.
Skull and Bones, if you played the beta, will know its more about the shp, ship battles, upgrading the ship, MP battles etc, while Black Flag is basically a pirate rpg set in the AC universe.
They are not trying to do the same things.
Just because those games were all set in space, it doesnt mean they are trying to do the same thing. And likewise just because these 2 games are pirate games, it doesnt mean they are trying to do exactly the same thing.
Skull and Bones, if you played the beta, will know its more about the shp, ship battles, upgrading the ship, MP battles etc, while Black Flag is basically a pirate rpg set in the AC universe.
They are not trying to do the same things.
Bond007
Member
So because its focusing on the naval aspect of pirating- its not a pirate game?
All pirate games require hand to hand combat?
Pirate ships are very much one of the central aspect of pirates....
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
No, it's a ship combat game lol.
Yes.
Know what's even more central to pirates than ships? Pirates!
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ComputerBlue
Member
Every type of transition in this game is a black screen, ship boarding, opening a door, getting on and off your ship, etc. The funny thing is, that’s not even the reason why this game is so trash.
IDappa
Member
Coming from the guys who made ac black flag there’s an expectation that this would be a progression of the formula and not a regression. That’s where the disconnect lies with people.
People use the excuse that it focuses on naval battles and that this is done to quicken boarding because of multi. Those points don’t hold water when you have games like sea of thieves that are primarily focused on multi with ship to ship and hand to hand combat. Then you look at black flag which also has ship combat elements. All they needed to do was expand on what they had done already (maybe a few tweaks to combat for balance) and this thing would be a massive hit.
The way they have made this game screams uninspired and it looks like they took the easy way out. Which is funny since it’s taken them so long to make. Mainly due to reception
People use the excuse that it focuses on naval battles and that this is done to quicken boarding because of multi. Those points don’t hold water when you have games like sea of thieves that are primarily focused on multi with ship to ship and hand to hand combat. Then you look at black flag which also has ship combat elements. All they needed to do was expand on what they had done already (maybe a few tweaks to combat for balance) and this thing would be a massive hit.
The way they have made this game screams uninspired and it looks like they took the easy way out. Which is funny since it’s taken them so long to make. Mainly due to reception
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Alebrije
Member
On Skulls and Bones the main character is the ship...if the name was called " Skulls and Bones
irate ships simulador" the name would make sence.The problem is asking 70 US for a ship simulador.
Bond007
Member
True
LegendOfKage
Gold Member
This spoiler is about the above video, not the game:
Looks more like ship bored-ing.
Masterofchapter
Member
Joraptor hates ubisoft lol avatar ac mirage he gave both bad reviews
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Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
This almost makes me want to finish playing Black Flag.
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
I assume the NHL hockey game that releases soon you won’t be a player scoring goals, you’ll be the Zamboni on the ice. Could be a blast, every time you smooth the ice at the end of the rink there is an NPC that can help you upgrade your boni too smooth it out faster. But, you don’t get to see you smoothing the ice, it’s just a quick cutscene.
Then you can buy micro transactions to change the color of your boni for 10 dollars and even a free color if you spend 60 dollars on their “ICE” coins (that’s currency for the boni). It isn’t pay to win though, as all that real money you spend doesn’t help you smooth out the ice any faster.
I cannot wait to play this new hockey game.
Then you can buy micro transactions to change the color of your boni for 10 dollars and even a free color if you spend 60 dollars on their “ICE” coins (that’s currency for the boni). It isn’t pay to win though, as all that real money you spend doesn’t help you smooth out the ice any faster.
I cannot wait to play this new hockey game.
newtypepilot
Member
doesn't need a remaster. Just play it now. It's less than 25% of price of this AAAA crap.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I'm surprised how good Black Flag looks. I think I own it but never played it.
I just looked and every AC game got a 60fps patch on Xbox! This is great news!
...except two of them. And one of those two is Black Flag.
I just looked and every AC game got a 60fps patch on Xbox! This is great news!
...except two of them. And one of those two is Black Flag.
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Kerotan
Member
I've already platinumed it with over 250 hours played. I even liked the online. Give it a remaster I might give it another go.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
This makes me wanna play Black Flag again. I loved the whaling minigame lol.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
“It’s perfectly okay for this game all about naval piracy to not feature one of the most important aspects of naval piracy.”
Jesus Christ, I swear some of you fuckers must be on the payroll. Say hi to Yves for us, and try not to sexually molest anyone.
Jesus Christ, I swear some of you fuckers must be on the payroll. Say hi to Yves for us, and try not to sexually molest anyone.
Barakov
Member
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
I watched a development video about this game. Basically it was sponsored by Singaporean company, and that company wanted their cash return so they wouldnt let them cancel the game. Which explains why a half-assed product got released just to please the higher ups. Id say this is the same situation as CP2077 being rushed to makret.
P:axMagellanic
Member
The absolute fuck.
Boarding actions are as essential to this periods naval warfare as round shot and gunpowder. The whole point is to size the ship and it's silver first, and sink as a last resort.
RickSanchez
Member
This is the problem people are having: Why do these goals/designs (ship combat and melee combat) have to exist separately, in separate games ? AC Black Flag did both, and did both well. You could choose to blow another ship out of the water from far away or get close, actually board it, and actually fight the other crew for control of their ship. There is no excuse for a game coming out 11 years later (and being dubbed by company executives as a AAAA game) to not be able to do multiple things like ship combat AND proper boarding and melee combat. Stop making excuses for big corporations who want you to get used to not owning your purchased games. For fuck's sake
