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[texhnolyze]

They're converting the game into Falout 4 engine, right?
Watch this remaster become another buggy mess.

Even if you just want to "play the game" you'll still want at least the unofficial patches and bug fixes, and if in the future when you're done with the included content and decide you want more, that option will be available on non-PS4 consoles.

Of course, if the Xbox One version has horrible issues we don't know about, that'll be a different issue (and even then it's possible someone might mod a fix). But right now all we know is that the PS4 version takes something away without putting anything in it's place. If modding isn't a big deal for you, it's still a point in the Xbox One's favor, even if it is a small one.

There are mods that fix bugs? Wow, that's crazy! But still, I'd rather play the buggy vanilla version, it's the devs' original vision of the game, the way it's intended to play. /s

 

[daman824]

They're converting the game into Falout 4 engine, right?
Watch this remaster become another buggy mess.



There are mods that fix bugs? Wow, that's crazy! But still, I'd rather play the buggy vanilla version, it's the devs' original vision of the game, the way it's intended to play. /s

This makes no sense. Fallout 4 was significantly less buggy than any of Bethesdas previous games. If they are porting the game into the current version of gamebryo, it'll probably be less buggy.

 

[Yarbskoo]

This makes no sense. Fallout 4 was significantly less buggy than any of Bethesdas previous games. If they are porting the game into the current version of gamebryo, it'll probably be less buggy.

I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.

 

[Soodanim]

I'm looking forward to the game. Looking forward to built in upgrades and a more stable base for mods that get ported over.

 

[Tigress]

Ain't a Bethesda thread without Tigress

Doing the exact same thing as you.

Is it that obvious? *blush* Yeah, Bethesda makes my favorite games (or in the case of New Vegas the engine for my favorite game of all time and it wouldn't have been my GOAT without the influence of Bethesda's game changes). Yeah, I know, unpopular sentiment in this forum to like their games. But I do (even with all their flaws and I actually agree with most criticisms I hear).

I for one am glad the PlayStation 4 version will not support mods. I value the original vision that directors have for their videogames. That original, untouched vision from Todd Howard is what I want to play... not some edgy fanfic mod made by a twelve year old.

People will call me crazy and say the PC version is superior for having the option, but I don't consider it a good thing.

I don't want to taint the beauty of Skyrim with pokemons, loli mods, naked women and other vulgar stuff. So yeah, I appreciate how the PS4 version stays true to the original thing. It's actually the biggest reason I'm getting it.

Here's a tip. If you don't want to play with mods, then you don't have to install them. But some of us would have liked mods. And no, they aren't all silly shit like pokemon or giant chickens. Some added extra quests, some added stuff liek true dark (I would have really loved to get the true dark mod for Fallout 4), some fixed bugs BEthesda will never fix (I like Bethesda games but they are definitely buggy), some fixed gameplay Bethesda should have allowed (I hear they made one so you could actually go against the thieves guild in Skyrim), they added gameplay features (having to eat and sleep in Skyrim for example).

I fail to see how it makes the game better by not allowing them. Allowing them doesn't force you to play without them. ANd it allows those of us who do want to play with mods a chance to play them.

And I honestly blame Sony for this. And I won't buy Skyrim again without them unless I can get it dirt cheap. Better graphics and being able to play on PS4 isn't worth paying full price again for it (I haven't yet paid full price for any remaster I have. Closest I got was GTA V but I managed a good trade in deal for my old GTA V combined with some other deal for pre ordering it that ended up with me actually getting money back between the two. And GTA added some features for the PS4 version along with the fact they only support the current gen version now so there's a lot of stuff in online you can't do in the old version). No way I'm getting anywhere close to any decent trade in value for the PS3 Skryim.

 

[@Wreck]

its a remaster(?) so it sells itself

pretty hyped for it

I really love it on ps3 music and environments.

i never messed with mods so no mods is fine

BUT its too bad bethesda and sony can't come to an agreement

 

[Nimby]

Have Sony responded about the mod situation AT ALL? I think I would have seen a thread on it.

After playing through a significant portion of Fallout 4, I couldn't continue. I learned how shallow the game was compared to Obsidian's go with the series, and I had already the guessed the huge twist that happens at the end of the story. "But hey," I said to myself. "Mods can fix it!"

As much as I am upset at Bethesda with the disappointment that is FO4, I am equally upset that Sony continues to display complete negligence to this issue. I just want some closure. I would really love mods to come as well but if Sony is ass backwards on this issue then I doubt they'll come to the platform.

 

[Kthulhu]

Have Sony responded about the mod situation AT ALL? I think I would have seen a thread on it.

After playing through a significant portion of Fallout 4, I couldn't continue. I learned how shallow the game was compared to Obsidian's go with the series, and I had already the guessed the huge twist that happens at the end of the story. "But hey," I said to myself. "Mods can fix it!"

As much as I am upset at Bethesda with the disappointment that is FO4, I am equally upset that Sony continues to display complete negligence to this issue. I just want some closure. I would really love mods to come as well but if Sony is ass backwards on this issue then I doubt they'll come to the platform.

As far as I know, Sony has literally nothing about it. I'm hoping this will bite them in the ass as far as sales go and they'll reverse course.

 

[Nesther]

Was the Morrowind expansion pack any good?

 

[ffejeromdiks]

I for one am glad the PlayStation 4 version will not support mods. I value the original vision that directors have for their videogames. That original, untouched vision from Todd Howard is what I want to play... not some edgy fanfic mod made by a twelve year old.

People will call me crazy and say the PC version is superior for having the option, but I don't consider it a good thing.

I don't want to taint the beauty of Skyrim with pokemons, loli mods, naked women and other vulgar stuff. So yeah, I appreciate how the PS4 version stays true to the original thing. It's actually the biggest reason I'm getting it.

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[Krappadizzle]

Was the Morrowind expansion pack any good?

Which one? Bloodmoon was pretty good if memory recalls correctly.

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The fact that some thinking less options is a better option amuses me.

 

[CGwizz]

i bet framerate wwill be broken an it will be full of shit bugs like ps3 version, bethesda never fails to deliver a shit port for ps consoles.

 

[Nesther]

Which one? Bloodmoon was pretty good if memory recalls correctly.


The fact that some thinking less options is a better option amuses me.

I thought there was some kind of Skyrim expansion pack that allowed players to return to Morrowind. Only ever played vanilla Skyrim for a bit.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

Here's a tip. If you don't want to play with mods, then you don't have to install them. But some of us would have liked mods. And no, they aren't all silly shit like pokemon or giant chickens. Some added extra quests, some added stuff liek true dark (I would have really loved to get the true dark mod for Fallout 4), some fixed bugs BEthesda will never fix (I like Bethesda games but they are definitely buggy), some fixed gameplay Bethesda should have allowed (I hear they made one so you could actually go against the thieves guild in Skyrim), they added gameplay features (having to eat and sleep in Skyrim for example).

I fail to see how it makes the game better by not allowing them. Allowing them doesn't force you to play without them. ANd it allows those of us who do want to play with mods a chance to play them.

And I honestly blame Sony for this. And I won't buy Skyrim again without them unless I can get it dirt cheap. Better graphics and being able to play on PS4 isn't worth paying full price again for it (I haven't yet paid full price for any remaster I have. Closest I got was GTA V but I managed a good trade in deal for my old GTA V combined with some other deal for pre ordering it that ended up with me actually getting money back between the two. And GTA added some features for the PS4 version along with the fact they only support the current gen version now so there's a lot of stuff in online you can't do in the old version). No way I'm getting anywhere close to any decent trade in value for the PS3 Skryim.

I genuinely don't understand it. It's not like you have to pay more money to get a version of the game without mods. WTF.

 

[texhnolyze]

This makes no sense. Fallout 4 was significantly less buggy than any of Bethesdas previous games. If they are porting the game into the current version of gamebryo, it'll probably be less buggy.

I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.

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It's not magic.

I thought there was some kind of Skyrim expansion pack that allowed players to return to Morrowind. Only ever played vanilla Skyrim for a bit.

That's a mod, Skywind.

I genuinely don't understand it. It's not like you have to pay more money to get a version of the game without mods. WTF.

It's the other way around. You have to pay the same amount of money for a version of the game that has less feature.

It's cool if you don't care about mods, but many others do.

 

[Nesther]

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It's not magic.



That's a mod, Skywind.



It's the other way around. You have to pay the same amount of money for a version of the game that has less feature.

It's cool if you don't care about mods, but many others do.

I think the expansion pack I mean is called "Dragonborn".

 

[Krappadizzle]

I thought there was some kind of Skyrim expansion pack that allowed players to return to Morrowind. Only ever played vanilla Skyrim for a bit.

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That's a mod, Skywind.



It's the other way around. You have to pay the same amount of money for a version of the game that has less feature.

I'd be very surprised if that mod ever comes to consoles ever as it requires assets from Morrowind and even if you got around that on PC through less reputable means, you'd never be able to through Bethesda's own mod menu.

I really look forward to Skywinds release. In 2025. Been following development of it for a very long time.

I think the expansion pack I mean is called "Dragonborn".

It's okay. Nice little throwback, but no substitute for Morrowind proper.

 

[Unai]

You can always play on Master. But you can still do the enchanting and alchemy which basically breaks the game.

The master difficult is very different from Fallout 4 survivor's mod, though. In survivor, you take more damage but also you deal more damage, so combate is more brutal in both sides and the enemies are not bullet sponges. Healing items take more time to heal, you can't fast travel, you have to eat, drink and sleep, you can get sick and also resting does not cure yours broken limbs, among other things. It's literally a game changer in how you aproach the game.

Will this break all the PC mods?

It won't break any mod because it will be a new game in you library instead of an update to your existing game. All mods that are working today in the old version will still keep working in that version, but some of them may have to be updated to work in the new version.

They're converting the game into Falout 4 engine, right?
Watch this remaster become another buggy mess.

There are mods that fix bugs? Wow, that's crazy! But still, I'd rather play the buggy vanilla version, it's the devs' original vision of the game, the way it's intended to play. /s

Yes, some of the most popular mods in the other games literally fix hundreds (maybe thousands?) of bugs. Some of the fallout games even have mods to prevent stuttering and crashes. The No Crash Mod for Fallout New Vegas got an update the other day because some windows 10 update had broken the game againg.

 

[Inuhanyou]

I mean, if PS4 is your only option, then yeah, go for that. The PS4 version will have quite a few advantages over the previous console releases, particfularly the one on PS3.

But if you have other options, I don't see any reasons why you shouldn't go with those instead.

That's a different conversation. There's a difference between saying "the PS4 version is now pointless and nobody should buy it", and saying, "if you own one of the other consoles as well as a PS4 and mods are something you care about, there's no reason to get it on PS4"

Not many people are cross owners because of the redundancy, especially this gen

 

[Creaking]

I'm still just so pissed off about the whole mod ordeal.

 

[lazygecko]

It won't break any mod because it will be a new game in you library instead of an update to your existing game. All mods that are working today in the old version will still keep working in that version, but some of them may have to be updated to work in the new version.

Any mod that relies on script extension will no longer work, because the script extender will not work. It will have to be rewritten more or less from the ground up, and that's going to take a while. Same thing with ENB.

 

[RK9039]

I'd be very surprised if that mod ever comes to consoles ever as it requires assets from Morrowind and even if you got around that on PC through less reputable means, you'd never be able to through Bethesda's own mod menu.

Yup, it's even on the FAQ. You need a legit copy of Morrowind and the expansions installed to play Skywind.

 

[Inuhanyou]

As far as I know, Sony has literally nothing about it. I'm hoping this will bite them in the ass as far as sales go and they'll reverse course.

I don't think one game that already has XB1 marketing doing worse on PS4 will stop Sony from business as usual. AFAIK to begin with, this is a bethesda mod specific scenario to begin with, not a modding in general issue. Something with their creation kit doesn't play well with how Sony have things set up, and Sony aren't willing to change things around for Bethesda

 

[Kthulhu]

I thought there was some kind of Skyrim expansion pack that allowed players to return to Morrowind. Only ever played vanilla Skyrim for a bit.

There is, but only one island that was in a Morrowind expansion (I haven't played Morrowind). Dragon riding isn't nearly as cool as it was hyped up to be, but the other shouts you get are pretty awesome. There is a super Cthulhu esque area you get to.

 

[draetenth]

Yes, some of the most popular mods in the other games literally fix hundreds (maybe thousands?) of bugs. Some of the fallout games even have mods to prevent stuttering and crashes. The No Crash Mod for Fallout New Vegas got an update the other day because some windows 10 update had broken the game againg.

Think you missed the /s at the end of sentence (unless it doesn't mean the post was sarcastic like I thought it did?)...

 

[Tigress]

I genuinely don't understand it. It's not like you have to pay more money to get a version of the game without mods. WTF.

I have to pay the same amount of money for a game without a feature that adds a lot to the game and can continue adding to the game as long as people are still interested in working in the game. I'm getting a lesser product for the same price. It's like telling some one that paying for a 15 lb bag of potatoes when if they buy it at another store they would get a 20 lb bag of potatoes for the same price that they are getting the same deal just cause the price is the same. Sure, some people may only need a 15 lb bag but that still doesn't make it an equal deal. Just cause it is the same price does not make it as good a deal. It's worth less without that feature.

 

[King Gilga]

I for one am glad the PlayStation 4 version will not support mods. I value the original vision that directors have for their videogames. That original, untouched vision from Todd Howard is what I want to play... not some edgy fanfic mod made by a twelve year old.

People will call me crazy and say the PC version is superior for having the option, but I don't consider it a good thing.

I don't want to taint the beauty of Skyrim with pokemons, loli mods, naked women and other vulgar stuff. So yeah, I appreciate how the PS4 version stays true to the original thing. It's actually the biggest reason I'm getting it.

Can;t believe you guys are falling for something this bait.

 

[RPGam3r]

Super hyped, getting it on PS4. Do not give a shit about mods, still appreciate Bethesda and MS getting it done. Sony on the other hand, way to drop the ball.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

I was legit excited until no mods was finally revealed. Only ps4 back atm, so alas

God I loved that game.

 

[Inuhanyou]

I have to pay the same amount of money for a game without a feature that adds a lot to the game and can continue adding to the game as long as people are still interested in working in the game. I'm getting a lesser product for the same price. It's like telling some one that paying for a 15 lb bag of potatoes when if they buy it at another store they would get a 20 lb bag of potatoes for the same price that they are getting the same deal just cause the price is the same. Sure, some people may only need a 15 lb bag but that still doesn't make it an equal deal. Just cause it is the same price does not make it as good a deal. It's worth less without that feature.

That is Sony dropping the ball though. So you should not expect Bethesda to compensate you.

Wait till its a lower price, that's what i'll do.

 

[Bizzquik]

As a PC gamer, I'd be really excited if Bethesda integrated some sort of Mod Configuration Menu or built its own version of SkyUI. But this is not what we're getting.
Instead its better textures, true lighting effects, and crisper visuals. In other words, everything mods do already.

....I'll check this free update out in 2017 to see if the modding community has shown the enormous time, patience, and interest it'll take to get existing mods converted over. 64-bit and DirectX11 is nice, I guess.

 

[psyfi]

I'll get it eventually when it's dirt cheap. I don't really feel a huge need to replay Skyrim, though I definitely loved it back in 2011.

 

[Worldshaker]

I'll play the PS4 version without mods, but I refuse to pay full price. $30 tops.

 

[BigDes]

As a PC gamer, I'd be really excited if Bethesda integrated some sort of Mod Configuration Menu or built its own version of SkyUI. But this is not what we're getting.
Instead its better textures, true lighting effects, and crisper visuals. In other words, everything mods do already.

....I'll check this free update out in 2017 to see if the modding community has shown the enormous time, patience, and interest it'll take to get existing mods converted over. 64-bit and DirectX11 is nice, I guess.

Dont forget the new way of handling mods from Fallout 4. Which is frankly a pain in the arse. Thankfully workarounds are present

 

[Jeremy]

Anyone I knew that was getting it for PS4 lost interest with the no mods announcement unfortunately.

 

[Unai]

Any mod that relies on script extension will no longer work, because the script extender will not work. It will have to be rewritten more or less from the ground up, and that's going to take a while. Same thing with ENB.

I mean they will continue working in the current version. The current Skyrim will not be updated, so the mods will continue working with it.

Think you missed the /s at the end of sentence (unless it doesn't mean the post was sarcastic like I thought it did?)...

Oops.

 

[Soodanim]

I for one am glad the PlayStation 4 version will not support mods. I value the original vision that directors have for their videogames. That original, untouched vision from Todd Howard is what I want to play... not some edgy fanfic mod made by a twelve year old.

People will call me crazy and say the PC version is superior for having the option, but I don't consider it a good thing.

I don't want to taint the beauty of Skyrim with pokemons, loli mods, naked women and other vulgar stuff. So yeah, I appreciate how the PS4 version stays true to the original thing. It's actually the biggest reason I'm getting it.

To be fair, for everything that can be said about this suspected joke/bait post, the first time I turned off the filter on Nexus and scrolled through it was a whole world of weird that had me thinking one simple question: "What the fuck is wrong with these people?". Nude mods, sex animation mods, and all sorts of things I've not remembered all exist.

 

[joecanada]

Okay? Fine? I'm telling someone what i feel about the game, and why there are people who may want the PS4 version without mods. If you don't want it, i'm not trying to convince you to buy it.

I thought Skyrim was a great game even without mods, so i will buy it. simple.

Your post stated I don't understand this sentiment, why the game needs mods. I'm saying why people may feel that way , it's an outdated game which was helped along greatly by mods as time went. So why would anyone grab the ps4 version if they had a choice? That's all . It's a poor version just like ps3 was .. It's as if ps4 was the only version without an entire menu of 1000 choices of options for the game.

 

[Hendrick's]

I'm almost certain that the PS4 version will perform worse than the Xbox One version on top of having no mod support. I hope no one buys this game.

 

[Boss Man]

I'm almost certain that the PS4 version will perform worse than the Xbox One version on top of having no mod support. I hope no one buys this game.

With how similar the machines are you'd suspect that'd be impossible but honestly I wouldn't be shocked.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Anyone wonder if they may be planning on delaying this release since Dishonored 2 comes out two weeks later?

 

[Tabby]

I was excited until it was announced there wasn't going to be any mods. Think I'll just be sticking to Skyrim PC.

 

[Hendrick's]

I was excited until it was announced there wasn't going to be any mods. Think I'll just be sticking to Skyrim PC.

Especially as you can essentially get the game for under $40 on Steam.

 

[Tagyhag]

Especially as you can essentially get the game for under $40 on Steam.

$11 if you look around as well.

 

[Tigress]

That is Sony dropping the ball though. So you should not expect Bethesda to compensate you.

Wait till its a lower price, that's what i'll do.

Yes it is Sony's fault. That doesn't mean I'm willing to pay full price for a game that is lesser than everywhere else. Whose fault it is does not make it an equal deal. If Bethesda wants me to pay full price, then they should figure it out. They are not a charity and it sucks for them that they can't offer as good a product but in the end they aren't offering as good a product. It in the end is their responsibility since they are offering the product in return of getting money from me. I'm not mad at them for it but I'm not going to pay full price for it either. (But yes I'm mad at Sony about this).

And yes, if I get it on ps4, I will wait until it's cheaper (that includes if I can find it at a cheap used price). Like 20 bux. If I was all that caring about better graphics I'd have had a PC by now so without mods the only real appeal to it is playing it on my ps4 which is nicer than playing it on the PS3.

 

[Hendrick's]

Has Bethesda released PC requirements for the enhanced edition?

 

[Inuhanyou]

Your post stated I don't understand this sentiment, why the game needs mods.

I didn't say i didn't understand why some people felt the game needed mods.

I said i didn't understand why some people would say that the game's pointless without mods. There are plenty of people who think the game is fun on its own and don't necessarily need mods to think so.

 

[texhnolyze]

I think the expansion pack I mean is called "Dragonborn".

I'd be very surprised if that mod ever comes to consoles ever as it requires assets from Morrowind and even if you got around that on PC through less reputable means, you'd never be able to through Bethesda's own mod menu.

I really look forward to Skywinds release. In 2025. Been following development of it for a very long time.

There's actually a portion of Morrowind in Dragonborn?
I see. I've never actually played any of the Skyrim DLCs.

To be fair, for everything that can be said about this suspected joke/bait post, the first time I turned off the filter on Nexus and scrolled through it was a whole world of weird that had me thinking one simple question: "What the fuck is wrong with these people?". Nude mods, sex animation mods, and all sorts of things I've not remembered all exist.

When's the last time you see nexus top files?
There's literally no nude mods, sex animations, etc on the top files, adult filter turned on. Look it up.

 

[diaspora]

There's actually a portion of Morrowind in Dragonborn?
I see. I've never actually played any of the Skyrim DLCs.



When's the last time you see nexus top files?
There's literally no nude mods, sex animations, etc on the top files, adult filter turned on. Look it up.

The bulk of Dragoborn takes place in Morrowind iirc.

 

[CraigerGamer]

It's been forever since I've played Skyrim. Looking forward to diving back in