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[Mgoblue201]

The difference that you can't seem to get through your head is that Cloud, Simon, and Alucard appeared in installments in their respective series that were released worldwide.

The choice is between putting in a character that only one country (which isn't even Smash Bros.' strongest market, btw) will have contextual access to, or putting in a character that every country will have contextual access to. In the former, Nintendo has to tell every other territory to just take their word that he's a big deal. In the latter, they can say that they appeared in FE[X] and every fan that doesn't already know their backstory and signifigance can go to a store and buy the game they originated in to learn more. Which is more appealing a strategy?

Ike is probably less known than Marth worldwide thanks to Melee. If they were simply going by popularity contests, than the Ice Climbers certainly wouldn't have been in Melee. Fire Emblem is still a relatively unknown series, selling at a fraction of what SSB sells. If they were looking for characters that everybody recognized, than Fire Emblem might not even be in the series to begin with, or at least not be represented as well as they are. I mean as it stands, the games are hardly blockbusters in their homeland right now, much less to the rest of the world.

Like it or not, Marth is the face of Fire Emblem. You don't even have to have played an FE game to realize that. It's like Captain Kirk being the face of Star Trek even though he only got three seasons compared to seven for the other three series. Didn't Marth even get a remake that's considered a part of the numbered series? He's practically synonomous with the Fire Emblem brand. And thanks to his exposure in Melee, most people know about him. Only about 200k people bought Ike's game in America. If you wanted someone that everybody knew intimately, than he wouldn't make the cut either.

 

[Scribble]

It's not like Ike, Marth or Sigurd would be on the front cover, anyway. It'd be Mario, Link, Pikachu, Tom Nook, Snake and Sonic. :lol

 

[NeonZ]

The difference that you can't seem to get through your head is that Cloud, Simon, and Alucard appeared in installments in their respective series that were released worldwide.

But Marth appeared in Super Smash Bros Melee, which had a worldwide release and sold much more than any single Fire Emblem game ever will...

You have the option of keeping a fan favorite or randomly replacing him. After all, the new FEs are already represented with Ike- even though a Goddess of Dawn character would be a nice addition, it's not completely necessary, considering how Ike is there too...

Oh, and if Sigurd being in Melee instead of Roy is true, that proves Sigurd's significance, too.

However, I disagree there. I haven't found any solid proof of that rumor, at all. While Sigurd is very popular with the traditional FE fans, his game isn't the one which sold the most and he isn't even the real main character of his own game, making it even more unlikely, in spite of his popularity.

 

[Shig]

No matter what other major character they put in, Western audiences wouldn't recognise them. Oh, wait...are you suggesting that they bring back Roy? Or perhaps another character for PoR? Yes, let's ignore the rich history of the series, and put some random lord in just for "variety's sake" and disservice the Japanese fanbase, who have been following the series since the NES.

An installment's main character like Lyn would be "some random lord"? You're kind of contradicting yourself here, if they've been following the series all along why would they shun every character but the stars of the first couple games? Why would they still be following the series if they didn't have an affinity for any of the new characters?

 

[A Link to the Past]

Lyn should be in because she's...

A. Female
B. The star of most popular English release of FE
C. Female
D. Female

If one recent FE character were to have been chosen, it should have been Lyn.

 

[Christopher]

will marth talk english in this one?

 

[CrushDance]

Marth!!! Oh please don't leave me Marth!! I need you!*cry,sobcry,sob,cry*

And nobody wants Krystal, she's a damn furry! *blargh!*

Give me Marth/Titania or give me no smash!

 

[Jiggy]

Lyn should be in because she's...

A. Female
B. The star of most popular English release of FE
C. Female
D. Female

If one recent FE character were to have been chosen, it should have been Lyn.

E. Uses a bow--good for the extra emphasis Sakurai wanted on aerial combat, since bows in FE are so anti-air.

 

[Haunted]

(neutral) ant1532
Banned
(Yesterday, 09:16 PM)


so no updates in the opening post for a while. :/

So tomorrow is Sakurai's birthday. I'm calling megaton update.

Well, in Japan it's already Friday 3rd, so it's technically today - but good call. I wonder if we'll get something special, or business as usual.

 

[ggnoobIGN]

So tomorrow is Sakurai's birthday. I'm calling megaton update.

 

[ggnoobIGN]

Sheik and Gannondorf confirmed.

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200708/N07.0802.1741.54921.htm

 

[PkunkFury]

Sheik and Gannondorf confirmed.

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200708/N07.0802.1741.54921.htm

haha, Aonuma confirming characters behind Sakurai's back

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

Sheik and Gannondorf confirmed.

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200708/N07.0802.1741.54921.htm

Awesome. I'm pretty pysched for TP Ganondorf, which was the best designed one out of the whole series.

 

[PkunkFury]

Awesome. I'm pretty pysched for TP Ganondorf, which was the best designed one out of the whole series.

I thought WindWaker Ganondorf was the best by far, but I know he won't be in Brawl anyway... so TP Ganondorf is cool

 

[sc0la]

I want WW young link and WW ganandorf (normal ganandorf can stay)
pls die shiek

 

[grandjedi6]

Sheik and Gannondorf confirmed.

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200708/N07.0802.1741.54921.htm

GI: Have you been consulted at all for the usage of Link or Sheik or Ganondorf for Smash Bros. Brawl?

Aonuma: I’ve been working with Sakurai for a very long time with this new Smash Bros., because the Wii came out and when discussion for a new Smash Bros. took place nobody could think of anyone other than Sakurai working on it. He was kind of the default, and I was very happy to hear that he would be working on it. Actually, my designers did work on the designs for Sheik and Link and Ganondorf. So they submitted the initial designs, and so it would fit in the Smash Bros. Brawl environment, they’ve had to tweak some of the designs. But Sakurai has brought those altered designs to NCL. We’re working very closely with the team of Smash Bros. Brawl to make sure the characters look their best.

Not 100% confirmed but all signs point to yes now. Nice

 

[Jiggy]

Ganondorf was a lock anyway, whether confirmed or not, but Sheik is cool.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

I thought WindWaker Ganondorf was the best by far, but I know he won't be in Brawl anyway... so TP Ganondorf is cool

Wind Waker Ganondorf was cool, but he doesn't really lend himself to Brawl as much as the TP and OoT models do.

 

[Zep]

I'm still waiting for Ness.

 

[NotWii]

nm

 

[TheKingsCrown]

Somoene post the model so we can splooge!

 

[Speevy]

Why would he mention Shiek instead of Zelda?

Because the actual quote doesn't confirm any characters, but rather just reinforces the obvious point that Nintendo probably sent concepts for all their characters from the various teams.

Why wouldn't Nintendo's Smash Brothers team have sketches/concept art with information about each character's history in front of them. They probably have hundreds from which to choose.

 

[SouthernDragon]

Sup, Shiek haters.

 

[LegendofJoe]

While far from confirmed, this is a good sign for Sheik.

 

[EktorPR]

It'll be a Zelda transformation...doesn't matter that they're using TP Zelda.

 

[rollingstart]

Sheik and Gannondorf confirmed.

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200708/N07.0802.1741.54921.htm

I just hope they dont use the Falcon clone from Melee, I want energy balls being shot, a trident or sword, final smash is him turning into Ganon, etc...

I am also really excited to see Sheik updated in TP style (if its going to be part of Zelda again), it could end up being really slick.

(neutral) ant1532
Banned
(Yesterday, 09:16 PM)

so no updates in the opening post for a while. :/

anyone of us could just do an update in a same style and get a mod to edit it in, no big deal.

and im calling a Kirby related update, maybe Metaknight moveset shown or King Dedede

 

[Haly]

I was expecting a new and improved Zelda.

Damnit why are they so lazy.

 

[-WindYoshi-]

Ganondorf is going to have the best Final Smash no doubt... turning into Ganon.

 

[rollingstart]

I was expecting a new and improved Zelda.

Damnit why are they so lazy.

I kinda agree, Zelda shooting light arrows would be amazing, same with her using her sword.

 

[Haly]

I kinda agree, Zelda shooting light arrows would be amazing, same with her using her sword.

Hoepfully they'll realize half way through "This shit ain't canonical", then give her a real moveset.

 

[NotWii]

Sup, Shiek haters.

If Shiek is in, then ZERO SUIT SAMUS IS OUT!

 

[KINGMOKU]

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

uh

what are exactly looking at there

 

[PkunkFury]

HOT

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I crossed my eyes to see the pic now they are stuck **** you moku

 

[ShockingAlberto]

When I was a kid, I watched porn like this.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Ohhh...it's Samus' ass.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Ohhh...it's Samus' ass.

When I was a kid I would have said that's Samus's uhm never mind... I was a naughty kid

 

[ohamsie]

what was ant1532 banned for?

 

[rakka]

what was ant1532 banned for?

God damn Japs

megaman poll thread i think

 

[devilhawk]

what was ant1532 banned for?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it had something to do with using an offensive WWII-age term for Japanese. But then again I really don't know.

 

[AceBandage]

When I was a kid I would have said that's Samus's uhm never mind... I was a naughty kid

It's her Va Jay Jay!

 

[ShockingAlberto]

He made a really awful and stupid joke and I don't think he realized he'd get banned for it.

 

[EktorPR]

He made a really awful and stupid joke and I don't think he realized he'd get banned for it.

If he would've realized, he wouldn't have done it...duh.

 

[Soule]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it had something to do with using an offensive WWII-age term for Japanese. But then again I really don't know.

i call my japanese friends by that term all the time, it wasn't until i came to GAF that i realized it was an offensive term.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

He made a really awful and stupid joke and I don't think he realized he'd get banned for it.

how long have you been on GAF?

see that guy moku up there? You can't even say his name using some other word in the same sentence in a ... nevermind... goes back to waiting on Japan Time

 

[grandjedi6]

i call my japanese friends by that term all the time, it wasn't until i came to GAF that i realized it was an offensive term.

The majority of Americans don't realize its offensive. Mostly because we are so use to special interests jumping the gun at anything offensive when no one complains loudly we don't react

 

[traveler]

The majority of Americans don't realize its offensive. Mostly because we are so use to special interests jumping the gun at anything offensive when no one complains loudly we don't react

I think it has more to do with the fact that we abbreviate everything and it never occurs to many that an abbreviation is offensive when the thing it is abbreviated from is not. I have accidently used the same term ant did many times and I am completely familiar with its offensiveness.

 

[castle007]

what is the term you guys are talking about.

Is it Asian??

lol

Spoiler

but seriously what is it??

 

[traveler]

what is the term you guys are talking about.

Is it Asian??

Jap(anese)

I couldn't even tell if he honestly meant it, or was simply doing as many do and shortening the term in an attempt to type out his comment faster. Did he really intend it as a joke?