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[Xeke]

Remaining 10 or so characters...

Ness
Captain Falcon
Jigglypuff
Luigi
Marth
Sonic
Mega Man
Cel-shaded Young Link
Another Pokemon character
Ganondorf

I'd be surprised to see Falco, Mr. Game & Watch, Roy, and Mewtwo.

I'd be extremely surprised (and a bit upset) if Dr. Mario, Pichu, and Mewtwo are back.

EDIT: Yeah, I agree with the consensus that Ridley will be a boss character, along with (obviously) Petey Pirahna. I'm betting King Dedede will also be a boss character and not playable. And for my last prediction I'm going to go a little out of limb here - Andross' post-SNES design will be a boss character, despite him being an assist trophy.

 

[OliveJuice]

Lakitu Camera Mode should be in the game.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

There is no reason to cut Mewtwo other than the fact tourneyfags didn't like him.

 

[OliveJuice]

There is no reason to cut Mewtwo other than the fact tourneyfags didn't like him.

I hope they fix him up, he was just way too floaty and just not that great to control. If they don't then they can just leave him out.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

I hope they fix him up, he was just way too floaty and just not that great to control. If they don't then they can just leave him out.

He has potential to be a really cool, possibly the coolest fighter in Smash. I know they'll tweak him up a bit.

 

[TheGreatDave]

I just hope that the 8-bit sprites extend to some Punch Out characters coming and attacking people.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

I just hope that the 8-bit sprites extend to some Punch Out characters coming and attacking people.

Screw that! I want to see Little Mac and Bald Bull in full 3D glory! Bald Bull has been in 4 Nintendo games, he needs to make a comeback.

 

[OliveJuice]

He has potential to be a really cool, possibly the coolest fighter in Smash. I know they'll tweak him up a bit.

Ya I know, when I first unlocked him I was super EXCITEed but after playing him for a little while it just died down. I hope they make him a little heavier and speed up/sharpen his movements.

 

[Duderz]

Well, if Falco's in the game, I'd expect that they'd revamp his character some.

 

[Xeke]

Mewtew was by far the worst character in the game. Unfortunate.

 

[Mejilan]

Holy FUCK but the Snake/Shadow Moses/Metal Gear videos are full of win!

Samus taking her clothes off. Seeing what Yoshi tastes like. Wario's farting. THE METAL GEARS.

It's too much. :lol

 

[Bert409]

Ridley will definitely be playable, Metroid needs a second character. And no, he's not too big. If anything, Brawl's version of Bowser is bigger than him.

 

[Meta-Knight]

I'm pretty sure Ridley is going to be a boss character. Actually, I'm going to guarantee it.

There's a good chance, he was in the clouds, and I suppose the characters in the clouds are the story mode bosses.

He could be a boss AND an actual character also...

 

[ShockingAlberto]

There's a good chance, he was in the clouds, and I suppose the characters in the clouds are the story mode bosses.

But Bowser was in there, too.

 

[Big Icarus]

Ooh, I'll list things too.

Ness
Captain Falcon
Jigglypuff
Luigi
Marth
Sonic
Mega Man
Falco
Animal Crossing kid
Ganondorf

Ridley will be a boss, and I'll bet we'll see the Monkey Head Andross as the same.

Edit:

There's a good chance, he was in the clouds, and I suppose the characters in the clouds are the story mode bosses.

He could be a boss AND an actual character also...

Joke post?
Those clouds meant nothing.

 

[Duderz]

I doubt just as much that Ridley will be playable as I will that Ness will not.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I see either Black Bull or Black Knight getting in as a boss.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

I don't think Bosses are going to be regular-sized fighters like that...

I really think bosses are going to be over-sized enemies from games that couldn't work as standard fighters.

I'm looking at Petey, Ridley, Andross (n64), Dark Matter, Giygas, Metal Gears, etc.

 

[WildArms]

I'm off to bed. Will be up in 8 hours to see the update :-D

 

[Jiggy]

I wouldn't want Giygas to be a boss, since really nobody can beat him. And if they did let you beat him, that would just weaken his credibility.

Spoiler

Unless there's a Paula assist trophy or something, or she just kind of randomly showed up for Subspace Emissary.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

It could be like Giygas from Mother 1 and they can have it so that he is invincible and attacks like a mofo and you can only attack him when

Spoiler

He's weakened by Maria's song, that would play for a few seconds while you pummel him

Eventually he just gets so weakened that he retreats or something, and then the battle is over.


Yeah... I thought about that one way too much..

 

[Jiggy]

So basically either version would need a dedicated

Spoiler

assist trophy or cutscene... interesting. >_>

Never knew that before.

 

[Rindain]

There will be a huge outcry from Ridley fans the world over if he is merely a boss character.

Not making Ridley playable is as dumb as not making Bowser playable. They could make an awesome Bowser-sized Ridley (that's about how big he is in most Metrodi games anyway).

Plus, Metroid is hugely lacking in playable characters given its popularity.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

There will be a huge outcry from Ridley fans the world over

All 10 of them?

Damn I'll need to buy earplugs.

 

[jeremy1456]

Not making Ridley playable is as dumb as not making Bowser playable. They could make an awesome Bowser-sized Ridley (that's about how big he is in most Metrodi games anyway).

So tell me how exactly is this true in any sense?

You're saying that it's as dumb to not make Bowser (one of Nintendo's most recognizeable mascots even by people who don't play video games, a character from Nintendo's most successful franchise) as dumb as not including Ridley (a character nobody outside of Metroid fans even knows of, from one of Nintendo's longest running yet least popular series).

Are you joking?

 

[grandjedi6]

So tell me how exactly is this true in any sense?

You're saying that it's as dumb to not make Bowser (one of Nintendo's most recognizeable mascots even by people who don't play video games, a character from Nintendo's most successful franchise) as dumb as not including Ridley (a character nobody outside of Metroid fans even knows of, from Nintendo's longest running least popular series).

I assume you were joking?

You did not just call Metroid unpopular. Its one of Nintendo's 5 big franchises. Ridley is recognizable enough.

 

[jeremy1456]

You did not just call Metroid unpopular. Its one of Nintendo's 5 big franchises. Ridley is recognizable enough.

What are the other four "big" franchises? Mario, Zelda, Pokemon and....?

Metroid really isn't that popular on a worldwide basis for a Nintendo franchise.

EDIT: Crap, forgot about Pokemon.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

I didn't even know Ridley had a name until Melee came out and people flipped out about the intro movie.

 

[grandjedi6]

What are the other four "big" franchises? Mario, Zelda and....?

Metroid really isn't that popular on a worldwide basis for a Nintendo franchise.

Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash Bros, Metroid. They are the most iconic and best selling of the franchises currently. And Metroid is a big seller worldwide, its only the Prime series that Japan ignores. Ridley may not be as well known as Bowser but few characters are. Ridley is defintely popular enough to be a character. In fact fans have been wanting him for a while

 

[jeremy1456]

Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash Bros, Metroid. They are the most iconic and best selling of the franchises currently. And Metroid is a big seller worldwide, its only the Prime series that Japan ignores. Ridley may not be as well known as Bowser but few characters are. Ridley is defintely popular enough to be a character. In fact fans have been wanting him for a while

Nintendo's top selling franchises actually looks more like this:

Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash Bros., and Animal Crossing.

I believe the Pikmin games even outperformed Metroid last generation, though I'll have to fact check later.

EDIT: I never said he isn't popular enough to be a character, especially considering some of the other choices that made it in, I'm just saying that nobody except Metroid fans even know who he is which addresses the early comparison to stupidity in leaving out Bowser as compared to him.

 

[GamerSoul]

here's my carefully formulated roster of some of the characters I think will make it

Vets
1. Ganondorf
2. Sheik
3. Luigi
4. Jiggly
5. Marth
6.C.Falcon

Newbabies
1.Isaac
2.Krystal :/
3. Capt. Syrup(I want to believe)
4. Lucario

Bosses
1.Ridley
2. Black Kinght
3. Medusa

That's all I can think of.

 

[grandjedi6]

Nintendo's top selling franchises actually looks more like this:

Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash Bros., and Animal Crossing.

I believe the Pikmin games even outperformed Metroid last generation, though I'll have to fact check later.

EDIT: I never said he isn't popular enough to be a character, especially considering some of the other choices that made it in, I'm just saying that nobody except Metroid fans even know who he is which addresses the early comparison to stupidity in leaving out Bowser as compared to him.

Metroid Prime sold over a million, Pikmin was no where close to that. Metroid is one of NIntendo's big franchises and sells alot upon release. And there are people who know Ridley outside of hte fanbase, maybe not the younger generations but definetly the older

 

[jeremy1456]

Metroid Prime sold over a million, Pikmin was no where close to that. Metroid is one of NIntendo's big franchises and sells alot upon release. And there are people who know Ridley outside of hte fanbase, maybe not the younger generations but definetly the older

Ahh you are right about Pikmin, my bad.

Your statements are just getting more and more general to the point where they are so broad that you're not really making any sort of statement at all.

I'm sure there are people who know of Ridley outside of the fanbase, but he's certainly not well known.

 

[Stumpokapow]

Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash Bros, Metroid. They are the most iconic and best selling of the franchises currently. And Metroid is a big seller worldwide, its only the Prime series that Japan ignores. Ridley may not be as well known as Bowser but few characters are. Ridley is defintely popular enough to be a character. In fact fans have been wanting him for a while

Metroid is iconic in the sense that people remember the characters and that it sells a few million worldwide per installments, but it's not anywhere near number five in the franchise list.

Metroid is a dead franchise in Japan. It's not just Prime (Prime 1 sold 75k and Hunters 90k, Prime 2 <50k); neither of the GBA installments did well (both <200k). AFAIK Metroid sold the best of all the games, and it only sold a million.

Animal Crossing: Wild World as a SINGLE GAME is fairly close to selling the combined total of every Metroid game worldwide. 4.3 million in Japan, almost two million in the US, and a little over two million elsewhere.

Prime sold around 2.5 million worldwide (75k in Japan, around 2 million in the US, ballparking 500k in Europe)--Prime 2 around half of that... Hunters sold 90k in Japan and last I remember from leaked numbers around 400k US. Super Metroid sold around 800k in Japan and IIRC from Square2005's classic data around 500k in the US. I don't have numbers for the GBA games in the US or Metroid 2 or 1, but it seems likely that AC:WW is either just below or above the total combined sales of every Metroid game worldwide.

Nintendogs has easily outsold every single Metroid game worldwide combined.

Hell, look at WarioWare; in Japan the two GBA titles combined for 1m, the GCN title was 400k, the Wii title was 400k, the DS title was 1.1m. I'm not sure about worldwide sales, but in Japan the WarioWare series is around or above the cumulative total of every Metroid game.

 

[grandjedi6]

Ahh you are right about Pikmin, my bad. You are getting more and more general with your terminology so as to not admit to being wrong.

I'm sure there are people who know of Ridley outside of the fanbase, but he's certainly not well known.

Well I was never trying to argue against your claim that Bowser deserves it more than Ridley, only against your claim that Metroid was "one of Nintendo's longest running yet least popular series".

 

[MrCheez]

Here is the screenshot that makes me think Ridley isn't too big to be playable:

Bowser looks freaking huge here... and we can compare his size directly to Samus!


On another note: to everyone making roster predictions, you might want to throw a near-guarantee on there: King Dedede. At this point I'd say this guy is the number one safest bet out of any other newcomer.

The top ten from Sakurai's character poll list have been coming true left and right, and Dedede was right at the top. (I think he was tied for number 1 actually? Can't remember though.) Not to mention that Dedede is a Sakurai character.

 

[jeremy1456]

Well I was never trying to argue against your claim that Bowser deserves it more than Ridley, only against your claim that Metroid was "one of Nintendo's longest running yet least popular series".

Okay, truce then?

 

[grandjedi6]

Okay, truce then?

Aye. Lets predict things instead. i'm hoping for a music update tonight! (mother music perhaps?)

 

[SuperAngelo64]

Remix of New Super Mario Bros. theme

PLZZZZZZZ

 

[Speevy]

Tonight is item - turnip.

 

[GDGF]

That is dope on so many levels. I want more pixel art assists.

The look reminds me of Nintendo's earlier 'Who Are You?' campaign adverts.

 

[sharbhund]

These numbers are from a Nintendo press release in Sept 2006:
Total Mario series: more than 193 million units sold worldwide
Total Pokemon series: more than 155 million units worldwide
Total Donkey Kong series: more than 48 million units worldwide
Total Zelda series: more than 47 million units worldwide
Total Metroid series: more than 13 million units worldwide

 

[SuperAngelo64]

Tonight is item - turnip.

Your avatar just reminded me of how badass it would be to have Nemo in Smash Brawl...

 

[Akai]

Remix of New Super Mario Bros. theme

PLZZZZZZZ

Well we DO know some version of the New Super Mario Bros. theme is coming, be it remix or direct rip... =D

 

[Testicular Sound Express]

i could see Dededee replacing dr. Mario and having a similar move set.

 

[Jiggy]

Nintendo's top selling franchises actually looks more like this:

Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash Bros., and Animal Crossing.

Stumpokapow covered the necessary Nintendogs addition, but I think Kirby needs a mention as well.
Assuming Wikipedia has its sources right...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games


Kirby Super Star (1.1 million in Japan)
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (1.07 million in Japan)
Kirby's Dream Land 2 (1.49 million in Japan)
Kirby's Dream Land (1.45 million in Japan)
Kirby's Pinball Land (1.12 million in Japan)
Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland (1.12 million in US)
Kirby: Squeak Squad (1.73 million)


It's a million seller almost every time just in Japan alone. No idea what it sells in Europe, but if it's like every other Nintendo series it's probably not that much worse. As for the US, there's only one figure in here, but it's also a million-seller--and that's despite Nightmare in Dreamland being a GBA remake. Wouldn't surprise me if the series turns out frequent million-sellers in the US individually as well.

Another reason it wouldn't surprise me: one of the few DS games Nintendo has brought to Korea so far is Kirby Squeak Squad. To bank on that, they must be seeing some kind of good sales for the series from their own internal data.

Plus several Kirby games like Dreamland 3, Amazing Mirror, and Canvas Curse haven't been accounted for. I really think Kirby is Nintendo's most underestimated franchise.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

Well we DO know some version of the New Super Mario Bros. theme is coming, be it remix or direct rip... =D

Yeah, that's why I'm asking. I'm hoping for a remix though. It's my absolute favorite of all the Mario overworld themes. I shat myself when I saw it on the My Music list.

 

[Jiggy]

i could see Dededee replacing dr. Mario and having a similar move set.

Dedede is a heavyweight, he can fly, he has an inhale ability like Kirby's, he has a hammer, he doesn't have vitamins, he has a butt drop attack, he has nothing at all like a cape, he can't spin in a tornado attack, and his body proportions are radically different from Dr. Mario's.

In what ways would they be similar?

 

[SuperAngelo64]

Dedede is a heavyweight, he can fly, he has an inhale ability like Kirby's, he has a hammer, he doesn't have vitamins, he has a butt drop attack, he has nothing at all like a cape, he can't spin in a tornado attack, and his body proportions are radically different from Dr. Mario's.

Shut up!! You're making me want DeDeDe in this game!! :[

 

[MrCheez]

Shut up!! You're making me want DeDeDe in this game!! :[

He will be, want to your hearts content!