I think that the villains are probably going to team up against the good guys, and then end up fighting against the Subspace Army anyway because it poses the greatest threat. We already know that Bowser is at war with the Kongs. After he inevitably gets beaten, he'll probably end up teaming with Ganondorf and Mewtwo and...eh...wow is that really all the villains there are?
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you're very insightful of villains D:Iam Canadian said:I can just imagine Ganondorf trying to work with other Nintendo villains. I estimate that alliance would last approximately five minutes before Ganondorf tries to kill them out of sheer irritation at their incompetence.
Well, every legend has its representation of evil, right?Ganondorf being associated with the Triforce of Power shows how dangerous power can be. Power without wisdom and courage to temper it becomes Ganon; ruthless and domineering.
I'm trying to imagine Link working with Ganondorf...I just can't.
I wrote an incredibly long post, but I ended up derailing, and put it up as an entirely separate thread, lol:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8299644
Mandrion said:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea01.html
I guess you could call it a friendly sparring match or something.
ratcliffja
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You're joking. You're joking. I can't believe my eyes. You're joking me. You've gotta be.Mandrion said:
SouthernDragon
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So, we went from furriness to discussion about the storylines Nintendo has conjured? Good show.
I have one thing to say, though. SF64 was freaking awesome, and should be considered one of the better games of the series. I did play the SNES version, and, in my opinion, it's far better. Hell, I spent hours on the multiplayer. When it came out for Gamecube, I was looking into it until I found out it was on foot. I loved SF64 precisely because it was an awesome on-rails shooter. I did not want ground components in SF, because that's not what the game was about. The Landmaster and Aqua Blue sections of the game are forgiven, and liked, because they were simply variations on the formula that added to the game and were interesting experiments. They were also really fucking fun.
Krystal's design is not that bad, but she's not important. The games she was featured in were not important. So, she's not eligible. To me, it has to be important members from a franchise to make it in. For SF, that's the core 4, and maybe Starwolf. In Sonic, for example, it'd be the core 3; Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles.
I wanna play SF64 now. : ( I wish I could play it on my Wii, but I can't buy Wii points here.
Oh, how fucking awesome would it be if EAD took the SF brand, made a game akin to SF64, but made it about Fox's father? Fuck yes!
Edit: I mean characters that have a chance of making it in. I'm not saying the core 4 for SF should be in.
I have one thing to say, though. SF64 was freaking awesome, and should be considered one of the better games of the series. I did play the SNES version, and, in my opinion, it's far better. Hell, I spent hours on the multiplayer. When it came out for Gamecube, I was looking into it until I found out it was on foot. I loved SF64 precisely because it was an awesome on-rails shooter. I did not want ground components in SF, because that's not what the game was about. The Landmaster and Aqua Blue sections of the game are forgiven, and liked, because they were simply variations on the formula that added to the game and were interesting experiments. They were also really fucking fun.
Krystal's design is not that bad, but she's not important. The games she was featured in were not important. So, she's not eligible. To me, it has to be important members from a franchise to make it in. For SF, that's the core 4, and maybe Starwolf. In Sonic, for example, it'd be the core 3; Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles.
I wanna play SF64 now. : ( I wish I could play it on my Wii, but I can't buy Wii points here.
Oh, how fucking awesome would it be if EAD took the SF brand, made a game akin to SF64, but made it about Fox's father? Fuck yes!
Edit: I mean characters that have a chance of making it in. I'm not saying the core 4 for SF should be in.
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Mandrion said:
Uh..whoa.
SouthernDragon
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Mandrion, do you, or did you ever use to post at any of Sonic's fanbase forums? Just wondering.
worldrunover
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FlightOfHeaven said:
I thought about that 10 years ago, when SF64 was released. There's so much potential backstory there with Fox's dad, Peppy, and the Pig guy who went to Star Wolf. They could easily make that into a game and it would be oh-so cool.
SuperAngelo64
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Mandrion said:
So now you've not only dissed Lyn, but Yuji Uekawa.
Please, tell me what you think about Jigglypuff and Red Dead Revolver.
Also:
After watching the Wario video I don't think he's a badguy, just greedy. Think of it this way;
What if you chose Zelda instead've Peach? Wario would be stealing a Peach statue.
What was Wario trying to obtain all throughout his first game, Wario Land?
A statue of Princess Peach, which Mario ended up stealing back, foiling his entire plan.
psycho_snake
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Its funny how krystal gets everyone so worked up :lol
SouthernDragon
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Only thing protecting Mandrion is the Vyse avatar. Obviously, Zeed has not played that game, or he would not have ripped Mandrion like he did.
Your irrational hatred of Lyn is starting to displease me, and I've never even played her game. Please stop. Her design, from what I've seen, is much more pleasing than Krystal's.
Your irrational hatred of Lyn is starting to displease me, and I've never even played her game. Please stop. Her design, from what I've seen, is much more pleasing than Krystal's.
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Mandrion said:
Huh... watch the video which shows the Mario VS Kirby match... it was clearly a friendly match. Zelda, Peach and even Pit were just calmly watching it, before the Subspace Army arrived. Kirby is even selectable for the first match too. No one was "evil" there.
EDIT; I've just thought about this... with a selectable Kirby, it means that the first match can end differently, with his victory rather than Mario's, I wonder if that changes anything in the sequence which shows the arrival of the subspace army. That could make another branching path right in the beginning of the game...
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
I'd prefer it if they kept all the moves the same, but I dont mind seeing his moves change as long as they stay pretty similar to the melee moves. I'd hate to see his smash moves in brawl completely different to his smash moves in melee because they were really good. His down b and up b were the two moves I used the most. His down b was such a good move to use on a small stage when people have 100% damage or more.Jiggy37 said:I want Ganondorf to at least keep the important unique moves he had, which were his forward air and more importantly the best neutral A in the game--that electric jab that did like 7-8 damage. That thing's way too cool to get rid of it entirely.
Everything else can change and I wouldn't mind that much, even though Ganondorf was somewhere in my rotation of seven. Maybe create a new version of the stomp, since a move like that makes sense for a character who's imbued with the Triforce of Power, and the aerial backhand was also good. And if I had to change the forward smash for either Ganondorf or Captain Falcon, Captain Falcon would be the one to lose the elbow.
As for the other moves... up air, neutral air, up smash, down smash, up B, up tilt, forward tilt, down tilt, and probably down B seem too flexible for Ocarina of Time Ganondorf, and too hand-to-hand for Wind Waker Ganondorf. Forward B actually works for him, though. Neutral B makes sense, but it should still go just because the Falcon Punch must belong to the good Captain alone.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
No, this game needs dante!
FlightOfHeaven said:
Oh, im not hating her.
I find Krystal more attractive from the view of which character is more original, more unique.
I only write like i do because its funny how Zeed gets angry about it
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It would be SO disappointing if Ganondorf has his old moves. Let him finally use his word and some dark magic. Not punches, which he never used in any Zelda-game.
SuperAngelo64
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Mandrion said:
Fixed.
CreatureX3
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Looks like Meta Knight is being set up as a villain. Hopefully Ridley and King Dedede are playable as well, so we can have even more villains.Zeed said:
CreatureX3 said:
I think that his Halberd was stolen, and not that he's the actual villain. Dedede's more or less a good guy, too. Wario's more of a villain than he is, at least.
Ridley and Andross are the only recurring genuinely evil villains I can think of. Oh, and (Mother spoilers)
Pokey
Mandrion, you just can't shut up can you? You've got 87 posts now and about 60 of them are filled with Nintard fanboy bullshit while the other 27 is furry yiffery. For the record...
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Mandrion said:She's female.
She has a staff as a weapon.
She wouldnt be a Fox-clone unlike Falco or Wolf.
She can fight unlike Slippy or Peppy.
She's sexy, but i already wrote that
Mandrion said:
That shit is like the written equivalent of goatse. You are not being edgy or provocative. You're just a disgusting fuck. Let it go.Mandrion said:
SuperAngelo64
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Scribble said:
Ganondorf is genuinely evil.
But Bowser and Mewtwo have had their 'misunderstood, anti-hero' moments (although Mewtwo's is non-canon. Mewtwo in canon is actually just a cold-blooded killer, so he is technically evil).
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SuperAngelo64 said:
Giygas, Dark Matter, etc.
And Mewtwo became not-evil.
Whether Mewtwo became non-evil depends on what version we're talking about... In the games Mewtwo stays vicious unless you capture it. In the anime it becomes good.
Normally I'd say we're concentrating on anime versions since anime popularity is just about the only reason that Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Pichu, Mewtwo, Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard would have been used in the first place... But Mewtwo seems to have that evil laugh in SSBM, and teams with Giga Bowser and Ganondorf in the final event match. I think it's supposed to be evil at least in SSBM, but things might change for SSBB.
Normally I'd say we're concentrating on anime versions since anime popularity is just about the only reason that Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Pichu, Mewtwo, Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard would have been used in the first place... But Mewtwo seems to have that evil laugh in SSBM, and teams with Giga Bowser and Ganondorf in the final event match. I think it's supposed to be evil at least in SSBM, but things might change for SSBB.
SuperAngelo64
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Since this is a Sakurai game I have a feeling Dark Matter will probably be behind the entire Subspace Army in the end.
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Respect Dark Matter, bitches!
SuperAngelo64
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The good thing about Dark Matter is that he's barely a character (in the sense it really has no motives), just an evil sumbitch that destroys and corrupts just because that's all it knows how to do.
It's just pure evil..with an eyeball.
It's just pure evil..with an eyeball.
SuperAngelo64
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I'm personally hoping that Majora's Mask will be a boss in Adventure mode...
... and that Young Link will be Majora's Mask based instead've WW-based...
Iam Canadian
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Goodness, people, I go to bed and we're right back to discussing freaking furries. I was kind of hoping that huge Meta Knight post would keep discussion away from that...
Ahh, a few other people are predicting Dark Matter as a villain. I've said from the beginning that of all the existing Nintendo villains, Dark Matter is the most likely to be behind the whole thing. Plus, he's a Sakurai character, so he gets a few extra points. Only problem is, though; if we're going with the theory that Wario is possessed (I personally don't believe this), then it doesn't quite fit. We've seen what King Dedede looks like when he's possessed by Dark Matter; he looks like he's asleep and begins demonstrating powers he does not normally have. Since Dark Matter operates by possessing those he can use, Wario must not then be working for him.
I'm thinking that if Dark Matter does make an appearance, he'll be in his O2 form from Kirby 64. In Kirby canon, Dark Matter is actually, for all intents and purposes, dead. After his defeat in Dreamland 3, Dark Matter's "ghost" (for lack of a better word) appeared in Kirby 64, which Kirby destroyed as well. I mean, of course Dark Matter could be brought back, but as it stands, he's gone.
And don't ask me what Miracle Matter in Kirby 64 was, I have no idea.
Ahh, a few other people are predicting Dark Matter as a villain. I've said from the beginning that of all the existing Nintendo villains, Dark Matter is the most likely to be behind the whole thing. Plus, he's a Sakurai character, so he gets a few extra points. Only problem is, though; if we're going with the theory that Wario is possessed (I personally don't believe this), then it doesn't quite fit. We've seen what King Dedede looks like when he's possessed by Dark Matter; he looks like he's asleep and begins demonstrating powers he does not normally have. Since Dark Matter operates by possessing those he can use, Wario must not then be working for him.
I'm thinking that if Dark Matter does make an appearance, he'll be in his O2 form from Kirby 64. In Kirby canon, Dark Matter is actually, for all intents and purposes, dead. After his defeat in Dreamland 3, Dark Matter's "ghost" (for lack of a better word) appeared in Kirby 64, which Kirby destroyed as well. I mean, of course Dark Matter could be brought back, but as it stands, he's gone.
And don't ask me what Miracle Matter in Kirby 64 was, I have no idea.
SuperAngelo64
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Wario is not possessed, he's just a greedy, weird, mischievious fuck.
I love Wario.
I love Wario.
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SuperAngelo64 said:
We've never seen him kill anyone before, though. At least not anyone who didn't mess with him first.
SuperAngelo64
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I just noticed something:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26689.html
What the hell is Mario doing at 1:22?
He like backflips and sits on the ground, I've never any character do that.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26689.html
What the hell is Mario doing at 1:22?
He like backflips and sits on the ground, I've never any character do that.
Iam Canadian
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As I've said, Wario actually was evil in his first appearance. After that, though, Nintendo made him into the greedy, flatulent antihero he is today.
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SuperAngelo64 said:
Looked like a roll to me... Perhaps that's what happens when you roll into a wall, maybe that part of the stage near the ledge is considered as higher than the ground where Mario was. It does look weird though.
SuperAngelo64
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ant1532 said:
Neat, got any details on it? I must've missed that.
Also:
I can't believe how cool that new taunt of Mario's is. I can't wait to see his 3rd one.
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