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Smash Bros Brawl Dojo Official Update Thread: Goodbye, Cherry-don

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I'm switching my prediction to Mr. Game & Watch tonight, because we all know Sakurai has spy ninjas hunting GAF finding posts to disprove, and GamerSoul's post is very noticeable at the top of this page.
 
Keru_Shiri said:
Why can't there be both?
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Too many Pokemans. Pikachu can rep the first gen games very well, Pkmn trainer reps the 3rd gen with the glorious remakes of FR/LG, and a 4th gen pkmn can rep the more current games. And Jigglypuff is just Jiggypuff. G/S/C and R/S Pkmn are given most of the pokeballs so they are rep'd too.

just a little theory for pkmn repesentation balance that i just came up with. lol

Jiggy37 said:
I'm switching my prediction to Mr. Game & Watch tonight, because we all know Sakurai has spy ninjas hunting GAF finding posts to disprove, and GamerSoul's post is very noticeable at the top of this page.
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nah, he wouldn't do that he knows G&W was just a joke character to laugh at.
 
flipping_heck said:
I predict a FALCON PUNCH!

Good night peeps!
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So you predict Captain Falcon's special moves unveiled before the actual character is shown? Well, could be, because that's how awesome the falcon punch is.

The Knee > Falcon Punch, though.
 
I think Mewtwo will return in a modified form. After all, he has a unique moveset and I don't think it will be tossed aside. Mewtwo will either return or the Mewtwo moveset will be applied to be another character.
 
I really, really want to see just one clone character get an update already, just because so many people's expectations would get thrown out the window. That and we'd never again have to see the totally 100% fabricated comment that Sakurai said clones would be out.

Edit: That first sentence is pretty ambiguous. What I mean is that I think if a single clone character showed up, then more people would start believing nearly all of the characters with unique movesets would be returning, no matter how "unpopular" or "unlikely." Mewtwo, Mr. Game & Watch, and Sheik being in those lists. Personally, I was convinced (even moreso than before) that all the unique movesets would return as soon as Ice Climbers got their update, but some people haven't reached that point and I'd be curious to see if anything could change their minds.



Mindlog said:
Predictit: Smash Brothers Brawl sales

Over/Under: Mario Galaxy sales
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In Japan, significantly over. In North America, over, but it'll take a while of sticking around selling 20,000-30,000 a month for several years like SSBM, where Galaxy will be more frontloaded. In Europe, I don't know.

Edit 2: After seeing the first week NA sales for Galaxy, I take it back. SSBB will outperform Galaxy both in the short-term and the long-term.
 
Jiggy37 said:
I really, really want to see just one clone character get an update already, just because so many people's expectations would get thrown out the window. That and we'd never again have to see the totally 100% fabricated comment that Sakurai said clones would be out.
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true. Falco or Ganondorf would be two prime examples of how much they could change the clones. I'm really hoping to see ganondorf more tho, but then again we don't even know if Captain Falcon will be changed in anyway.
 
Jiggy37 said:
Pichu would be a megaton for me. Because, honestly, it's right up there with Roy at the top of the list of characters that basically everybody expects to be gone...
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They might keep Pichu around to avoid wasting resources on a joke character with its own moveset... but that's the only reason I can see for keeping him around.

Why do that when there's another character that is blue, from the 4th generation, can talk, stars in movie, name is a combination of Lucas and Mario, can be put in his place.
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Mewtwo's body shape and moveset are too unique. Lucario's body shape is close, but he basically wouldn't be able to use any of Mewtwo's psychic based animations (which are most of his moveset), so replacing Mewtwo is basically impossible for him.
 
NeonZ said:
They might keep Pichu around to avoid wasting resources on a joke character with its own moveset... but that's the only reason I can see for keeping him around.
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How would pichu require any more resources than G&W? G&W's moveset already exists, and he has possibly the simplest model in Melee. They don't even have to change it much for Brawl, it's not as if his model needs that much detail.

Anyway, G&W isn't a joke character, and I can't see why they would drop a character with a unique moveset if they have the room. That's an extra character they can add for at least half the work of a new character, if not less.
 
I would like to see Pichu return even if he's unchanged. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I absolutely love playing as this character in multiplayer. Mewtwo will return, like many have said, hes too unique of a character to be tossed aside. I doubt it would take much effort to throw him in, he could even be unchanged.
 
Pikachu: Mascot
Jigglypuff: Other popular one
Pokémon Trainer: New spin on a character
Lucario: 4th-gen rep.

And legendary?

It's either Mewtwo or no one, Deoxys was the only possible replacement, but he's a Pokéball now.
 
NeonZ said:
They might keep Pichu around to avoid wasting resources on a joke character with its own moveset... but that's the only reason I can see for keeping him around.
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Yeah, I expect Pichu to be 100% gone, out, nowhere in Brawl except possibly in a Poke Ball. That's why it would be stunning to me if they revealed it was still in. The only character I'd call less likely is Roy, so I even put Dr. Mario's chances above Pichu.
 
For the record, I was also in the camp that either Deoxys would come in and take Mewtwo's moveset while also having multiple forms, or Mewtwo would stay. Since Deoxys went to Poke Balls while Pokemon Trainer took over the role of multiple forms in one character, well...
 
Game & watch isn't a joke character :\

He's certainly a unique and hilarious concept in the fighter, but he also represents a huge franchise on his own and a large part of Nintendo's past. He has a unique moveset which was meticulously grafted from a number of his games. On top of that, there's a slot waiting for his franchise on that number list if you believe that's any indication. I don't see why they'd get rid of him...
 
Assuming that no update types are repeated in the week, your choices for this Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday are character profile, special moves, stage, assist trophy, Poke Ball, how to play, and music.

I'm inclined to think that another how to play update is unlikely at this point. There's really not much to talk about that they haven't covered: recovery, double jumping (built into the recovery update), tether recovery, smash attacks, tilt attacks (built into the smash attacks), combos, special moves, footstool jumps, gliding, taunts, throws, entrances, moving and shooting, the basic rules of Smash, the Wii remote controls, final smashes, and shielding/dodging...

Maybe they'll do updates for each of the other control types, though. I hope not, but it's very possible. Oh, and of course crawling has to be on its way sooner or later. Oh, and wall jumping. Oh, and air dodging. ...I'm just digging myself into a hole, huh?
 
Stop it Jiggy, you're crushing my soul. *Falls into fetal position and weeps*

You know, I'm pretty sure there was another new technique that was first seen at E For All that hasn't been given a Dojo update yet. However, I can't remember for the life of me what it was or even if I'm just delusional. I'll have to go through the old hands-on thread and check...
 
The ink drop, perhaps? But that was more an unintended feature along the lines of wavedashing than a "real" gameplay mechanic.
 
Jiggy37 said:
The ink drop, perhaps? But that was more an unintended feature along the lines of wavedashing than a "real" gameplay mechanic.
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Yeah, that was it. I didn't know it was an unintended thing, though. Disregard my last post, guys.
 
I have a feeling that we won't be seeing the Mario Kart stage, unless Sakurai intends to show more than one stage per franchise.

Of course, seeing as we've got until February, I guess that's not so unlikely now.
 
Iam Canadian said:
we've got until February
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Speaking of which, if this month gets any lamer, maybe we can start discussing whether we think he'll stop after the Japanese release, or how long after the Japanese release, and why. >_>


Does anyone know what the precedent set by the Melee site was, again? (I know the Dojo has been more frequent than whatever Melee news was available, but it's still at least a decent starting point.)
 
Oh, but he didn't predict a "good" update, just a "big" one. I think we know what that means.
Krystal

Why have you doomed us, underfooter, why? :( You're like a thorn, uh, under our feet.
 
Jiggy37 said:
Oh, but he didn't predict a "good" update, just a "big" one. I think we know what that means.
Krystal

Why have you doomed us, underfooter, why? :( You're like a thorn, uh, under our feet.
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What are you guys talking about? You must be seeing things, I never predicted anything.
 
underfooter said:
What are you guys talking about? You must be seeing things, I never predicted anything.
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Hoped for, predicted, it's all just semantics here in the SSBB Dojo thread, where reality twists and words transcend meaning.


Mockingbird said:
Under due to non-gamer factor.
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I kind of think non-gamers are slightly more likely to be drawn to the (at first glance) simple mechanics of Smash Bros. than the complexity of Mario Galaxy.
I could be very wrong, though, going by random anecdotal reports around GAF, but even so... Smash also has the multiplayer focus going for it, and if casual/lapsed/non-gamer Wii owners are looking for anything, it's probably multiplayer.


crowphoenix said:
I'm predicting how to play: difficulty sliders. It's coming guys. One day we shall endure.
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I fear you're right. :o
 
Well the Mario franchise has Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Yoshi and Wario ok sure Yoshi and Wario got their own icons becuse they have their own spin off series but they are still very much Mario related.

So I don't see why Pokemon can't have Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Pokemon Trainer and Lucario. The more popular and The more important the francise is to Nintnendo the more characters it seems to get and Pokemon is one of the most important and most popular ones they have so it's not like it dosn't deserve the representation.

5 characters for 1 series is at least with in realstic bounds, and hell I'd gladly ditch Pichu if it means Mewtwo stays and or we get Lucario!
 
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