panthapanda
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Was going to preorder to the states but 25$, I'll pass lol. Damn being impatient
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Smash Bros Cloud, Corrin, and Bayonetta Amiibo will release on July 21st
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Guess I'll end paying a scalper or something. :/
Only want both Bayonetta and both Cloud amiibo.
But Gamestop only sells 3 of those and they want $10 shipping for each individually, which translates into $69 and I still miss one.
Best Buy doesn't ship to PR, so for Bayonetta 1, I would need to wait until July to see if the stores got any.
Game UK ships everywhere...but PR.
Only want both Bayonetta and both Cloud amiibo.
But Gamestop only sells 3 of those and they want $10 shipping for each individually, which translates into $69 and I still miss one.
Best Buy doesn't ship to PR, so for Bayonetta 1, I would need to wait until July to see if the stores got any.
Game UK ships everywhere...but PR.
Geminosity
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yay, f.corrin pre-ordered. Now I just hope GAME honours it 
Undead Fantasy
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I hope you're trolling.
The other exclusives haven't gone up yet. Bayo P2 will either be target or best buy. Probably best buy.
sixteen-bit
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Seems like both clouds and both bayos sold out on Amazon JP. Only available from 3rd parties.
useyourfist
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Game still has stock of some
Yung Dolphin
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Dont really feel like reading thru the whole thread, anyone know where I can preorder the Bayo1 amiibo in the US?
Geminosity
Member
Corrin seems like Amazon, same as SS Link
Bayonetta we don't know, same as MM Link
If I had to guess?
MM Link = Toys R Us
Bayonetta = Target
Cloud's Advent Design is super popular though. its all over the fan art community and they always bring out figures and with AC near the front to start the line off strong.
Sadly I only want AC Cloud but Gamestop exclusive means I might have to pay crazy prices.
Lord Frieza
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Is Target easy to get exclusives from? I hear they suck for Pops, but I never really followed amiibos. I just need my Bayonettas.
If you're there Day 1 they are. But it's simply a guess.
Gamestop may still be trying to get Bayonetta as an exclusive as well, which would make things easier.
spookyfish
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Why would that make things easier? Many get free shipping plus 20% off Amiibo at Best Buy and Amazon. I would prefer *not* to buy from GameStop. Additionally, the GS Link is already sold out. I'd prefer to have a shot at it with other stores.
Rockin' Ranger
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Wasn't Rosalina almost impossible to get from Target as an exclusive?
NinjaCoachZ
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Smash is almost certainly a 2018 game at this point. Honestly the moment we started getting a feel for the Switch lineup in January, it started getting questionable if they even needed it for 2017 to begin with.
DecoReturns
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At this point, We should just wait and see. E3 is coming, no Smash info, don't expect it.
Honestly, I felt that supposed port of Smash would've gotten announced at the Switch event, since it didn't I'm not expecting it this year or maybe it doesn't exist
spookyfish
Gold Member
Both Rosalina and Jigglypuff were impossible for me to get upon initial release. I ended up importing.
If you don't mind importing from Japan.
Bayonetta: https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/sea...h_query=amiibo+bayonetta&submit_search=Search
Cloud: https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/sea...earch_query=amiibo+cloud&submit_search=Search
Corrin/Kamui: https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/sea...earch_query=amiibo+kamui&submit_search=Search
Keep in mind that they (and Nippon-yasan) may sit on the order for 1-7 days depending on workload, holidays or that they possibly don't have enough products in stock. And make sure to tell them to pack the shipment really well. Otherwise you can expect slightly bulky or broken boxes when you receive your package.
Bayonetta: https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/sea...h_query=amiibo+bayonetta&submit_search=Search
Cloud: https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/sea...earch_query=amiibo+cloud&submit_search=Search
Corrin/Kamui: https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/sea...earch_query=amiibo+kamui&submit_search=Search
Keep in mind that they (and Nippon-yasan) may sit on the order for 1-7 days depending on workload, holidays or that they possibly don't have enough products in stock. And make sure to tell them to pack the shipment really well. Otherwise you can expect slightly bulky or broken boxes when you receive your package.
I think they don't want Smash to overshadow ARMS.
Considering that ARMS is coming out the day after E3, I'm not sure we'll see Smash there.
If it's a port, we might get a TGS announcement and then a short turnaround for a Holiday release.
BocoDragon
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I'm pretty sure these never went up for pre-order in Canada, no? Never saw it at all.
At first, I was a bit confused as I thought (as most people did) that these would be held off for a Smash 4 port for Switch.
Then I realized what they might be doing: Nintendo will release the Smash 4 port alongside a big wave of "Player 2" amiibo with the goal of re-releasing the entire line with variants.
I wondered why they didn't do this before but it looks like they might go as far as to give them new poses as well.
AdventureRacing
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I don't see why. It feels really strange to randomly drop these amiibo when the wii U is totally dead and everyone is moving on to the switch. I feel like these either should have been released closer to when they became available or closer to the switch release. If the next game isn't until 2018 why are these amiibo releasing in July? They're limiting sales of the amiibo and the possible positive flow in effect to the game itself.
Having said that I'm ok waiting until 2018. Having said that if it takes that long it better have a lot of new content. It has been ages since smash bros 4 release and really by that time it will have been well over a year since any DLC released. There is no excuse for this to be a straight port.
Not to be a jerk but 'almost certainly" is baseless speculation based on a false idea.
You're acting as if the Switch lineup is so strong that they don't "need" it? All we know of the Switch lineup this fall/holiday is Super Mario Odyssey, Fire Emblem Warriors and Xenoblade II -- a game most people feel will be delayed.
Past that, we have absolutely zero idea if Nintendo will "need" it or not.
But it's also not even a new game. It's just a port. So it would be silly not to release it this holiday even if they have some other games up their sleeves. Releasing Smash 4 for Switch this fall benefits Nintendo more than if they wait another year and port a 4-year-old game.
If it misses 2017 I'm willing to bet it's not a port and will be Smash 5.
AdventureRacing
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I pretty much agree with this. There is no reason that a port should take so long that it misses 2017. If there is no port in 2017 I think they are either skipping it and going straight to number 5 or they're adding a lot of content making it far more than just a port.
I think the best situation would be an enhanced port late in 2017 to tide them over to smash bros 5 which could take a long time. It fills a gap in there sparse switch line-up this year and gets a lot of smash players to double dip, encouraging them to migrate to the switch. Then they can take a few more years getting out the next game.
A port in 2018 would be a failure on nintendos part IMO.
Their is probably a lot of internal debate between Sora, Nintendo and Bamco on whether to release a port on Switch. Splatoon 2 feels like something that began as a Switch port of the first game.
But I also wonder what they'd do for the next game, because it seems like they've maxed on a lot of concepts for Smash by now, content in particular.
The Smash renders for AC Cloud, Bayo 1 and Female Corrin had different poses in game. The player 2 amiibo will likely be the same poses (with some exceptions like the Koopalings and Female Robin).
Nin-nin are awful. Tried to use them for Ness and Robin way back and they were just terrible at customer service and months of delay in actually shipping anything.
Not necessarily. Nintendo certainly needs to pad their first party lineup with new titles, but they could do so by continuing to trickle out ports and remasters every few months.
I could see them either maneuvering into November to match the release date of sm4sh, or January to ring in the new year
I agree with you, though I think as
....I was actually originally going to say it is not one of Nintendo's bread and butter sales performers but when I researched Wii, 3DS and Wii U top sellers I was surprised 3D Mario games were near the top. So my expectations are now pleasantly increased for the game and while I think SSB would help supplement sales it actually was a smaller seller than 3D Mario on 3DS and Wii U, and on Wii it barely squeaked past 3D Mario with 13.15 vs. 12.72 M sales. So, I am surprised (and happy, since I personally prefer it) to see 3D Mario is a better seller than I thought. So bottom line, I agree with you!
I'm wondering if perhaps we will see just a brand new Smash if there is no port in the first year. I feel like a second year port won't have quite as much excitement, people will expect I think more at that point.
Good call on TGS. I think that's a possibility especially if Nintendo is concerned about sales momentum for the holiday. I wonder if games like that and Pikmin and even Pokémon otherwise could be H1 2018 games. Especially if momentum is sufficiently significant from games like MK8 and Splatoon 2 prior to TGS. I agree with you about ARMS, if it has a chance at success it needs to be positioned as a unique offering on Switch.
I didn't think of that about the Smash amiibo but you make a good point, Zero. I think we very may see something like that. They are the best selling line of amiibo AFAIK so it does make sense to launch more popular characters from the line with the new game or port.
My thinking is that at this point these remaining figures are for collectors and Wii U/3DS players in terms of utilization with the game. Though I wonder honestly if there is any data out there about how much Smash players used amiibo in the actual game vs. bought them to display and such because as a non-Smash player the amiibo integration seemed decidedly blah to me (though as Smash players y'all are more than welcome to correct me if I'm mistaken). In that sense these more niche characters may not need to be released with a port or new game, whereas as Zeo mentions above the more popular sellers could be boosted to even greater sales if released alongside such an event.
Pertaining to the straight port (I'm assuming you mean a scenario where all DLC but no new content is included, but please correct me if I'm wrong), given MK8D had its second and final DLC pack released two years ago, I think the fact that it is has been a year since the last Smash DLC does not necessarily mean there will be a lot of new content if a port is coming. With that said, MK8 has an extensive new mode with associated new maps, as well as new characters, in addition to all DLC (except the Mercedes-Benz DLC I think, but I wouldn't necessarily count that) so I would expect at least as much added to a Smash port, but I wasn't sure if you would consider that sufficiently extensive additional content.
I agree that the sooner Nintendo releases the Smash port, if they are planning one, the more impactful it will be. With that said, if one isn't coming by this time or so next year, I think it would be better that they release the new game. I do think the Switch lineup is sufficiently strong with SMO and the earlier-in-the-year surely-evergreen sellers of BOTW, MK8D (I think) and Splatoon 2. I don't expect FEW to be very big, but probably bigger than XC2. Though, I am very curious to see if the Switch userbase is essentially buying all first party titles in larger volume than expected, it will be interesting to see what the trajectory of the average Switch customer is. The attach rate for Zelda is fascinatingly unusual, though there are a number of factors making parsing it out kind of difficult until we have more information about how other first party games will perform, especially ports. If mainline Pokémon comes this year as a port or new game, Smash can wait. If not, I think Switch will be in solid shape, but Smash would be more useful in that case for sure. There is no question it is a massive seller and draw and offers something unlike anything else on the system.
With that said, if Nintendo cannot manufacture enough Switch systems to meet demand based on current titles already announced, they may be better served holding off on Smash or Pokémon till 2018.
Beren the Empty-Handed
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For characters they have Splatoon, Xenoblade X, and ARMS to mine. Not to mention any new Fire Emblem and Pokemon characters that will come out. They could also rework older characters that need an update, like Ganondorf or even Link.
There's always new stages that could be made, veterans to bring back (Ice Climbers, Dark Horse Pichu), and they could also put effort into making the single player not suck.
There's still things they can improve, although I admit the amount of new characters they can probably shove in at this point is dwindling.
No, they haven't. Amazon usually won't put pre-orders up for Amiibo figures until closer to the release date, if not right on the day of.
moltonasty
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So no US retailers yet for OG Bayo? I was about to just get it from Nin-Nin but sold out already :/
Part of me thinks I no longer have to worry about pre-ordering Amiibo, but I want Bayo bad enough that I might just bite.
NinjaCoachZ
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Nah, your first point is harsh but true.
It's important to consider not just the new upcoming holiday releases, but also:
- Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Splatoon 2 are guaranteed to be hot sellers for the remainder of the Switch's lifespan. They're two really strong candidates to be used in any holiday system bundles as well.
- BOTW will be having its first holiday too. This will be big for bringing in the "hardcore" crowd, and will also be timed with its story DLC. So nintendo will want to push that as well.
- Then there's ARMS which might do well but I think the other three are just bigger.
Nintendo also usually have a couple of unannounced games for the year they save until May-June to announce. So there is most likely at least one more unannounced AAA game.
Now if you ask me, yes, I feel Smash Bros. would be a prime candidate for one of those games. But then there's other options as well. For example Pokemon Stars, which Eurogamer reports is a Switch release due for this year.
So let's assume that Pokemon Stars is coming out this year. For a single holiday, Nintendo can push 3D Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Splatoon, and Pokemon. Aka five of their top-selling IPs, ever.
Obviously yeah, this is just speculation. And it's true there's an alternate situation where Smash Bros. is there instead of Pokemon. But that's how I'm seeing it. In a situation like that, where Pokemon is also coming this year, Smash Bros. on top of everything else just feels like overkill to me and I'd imagine Nintendo want to be careful not to frontload things with all their mega IPs at once. That's why I think it makes more sense to save things like it, Animal Crossing, Kirby etc. for later and spread things out to keep the momentum going. I don't want to rule anything out, but that's just what I think would be smartest. As a random person on the internet typing from my couch.
Amazon.ca listing up for Bayonetta 2. Not sure if it's actually sold yet or if it's just the listing.
https://www.amazon.ca/Nintendo-Bayonetta-amiibo-Super-Smash/dp/B071XNTVCX/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1492640958&sr=8-9&keywords=bayonetta+amiibo
https://www.amazon.ca/Nintendo-Bayonetta-amiibo-Super-Smash/dp/B071XNTVCX/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1492640958&sr=8-9&keywords=bayonetta+amiibo
Not seen any UK retailers offer them yet except GAME, which I pre-ordered from regretably, but hoping to jump ship when someone else offers them, which so far is none.
Weirdly I noticed ShopTo are offering the new Zelda amiibos now and maybe(?) the new splatoon amiibos, but not cloud/corrin/bayonetta.
Still also hoping to get Destiny 2 LE from someone else, got one GAME so far, but everywhere else is out of stock.
Weirdly I noticed ShopTo are offering the new Zelda amiibos now and maybe(?) the new splatoon amiibos, but not cloud/corrin/bayonetta.
Still also hoping to get Destiny 2 LE from someone else, got one GAME so far, but everywhere else is out of stock.
sixteen-bit
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I'd like to know this too. Already got Bayo 2 locked in.